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    Michael Moore and Me
    From the May 31, 2004 issue: An encounter with the Cannes man.
    by Fred Barnes
    05/31/2004, Volume 009, Issue 36

    A FEW YEARS AGO Michael Moore, who's now promoting an anti-President Bush movie entitled Fahrenheit 9/11, announced he'd gotten the goods on me, indeed hung me out to dry on my own words. It was in his first bestselling book, Stupid White Men. Moore wrote he'd once been "forced" to listen to my comments on a TV chat show, The McLaughlin Group. I had whined "on and on about the sorry state of American education," Moore said, and wound up by bellowing: "These kids don't even know what The Iliad and The Odyssey are!"

    Moore's interest was piqued, so the next day he said he called me. "Fred," he quoted himself as saying, "tell me what The Iliad and The Odyssey are." I started "hemming and hawing," Moore wrote. And then I said, according to Moore: "Well, they're . . . uh . . . you know . . . uh . . . okay, fine, you got me--I don't know what they're about. Happy now?" He'd smoked me out as a fraud, or maybe worse.

    The only problem is none of this is true. It never happened. Moore is a liar. He made it up. It's a fabrication on two levels. One, I've never met Moore or even talked to him on the phone. And, two, I read both The Iliad and The Odyssey in my first year at the University of Virginia. Just for the record, I'd learned what they were about even before college. Like everyone else my age, I got my classical education from the big screen. I saw the Iliad movie called Helen of Troy and while I forget the name of the Odyssey film, I think it starred Kirk Douglas as Odysseus.

    So why didn't I scream bloody murder when the book came out in 2001? I didn't learn about the phony anecdote until it was brought to my attention by Alan Wolfe, who was reviewing Moore's book for the New Republic. He asked, by email, if the story were true. I said no, not a word of it, and Wolfe quoted me as saying that. That was enough, I thought. After all, who would take a shrill, lying lefty like Moore seriously?

    More people than I thought. Moore's new movie attacking Bush was given a 20-minute standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival. Moore has described the movie as breaking new ground and revealing new facts, but the accounts by reviewers suggest it merely provides the standard left-wing, conspiratorial critique of the president. Reviewer Lou Lumenick of the New York Post, who gave Moore's previous movie Bowling for Columbine four stars, said the anti-Bush film would be news only "if you spent the last three years hiding in a cave in Afghanistan." Still, I suppose it's not surprising they loved it in France.

    In publicizing the movie, Moore has been up to his old dishonest tricks. Just before the screening at Cannes, he charged that Disney had told him "officially" the day before that it would not distribute Fahrenheit 9/11. Moore said this was an attempt to kill the film. He indicated a newspaper article had the correct explanation of Disney's decision: "According to today's New York Times, it might 'endanger' millions of dollars of tax breaks Disney receives from the state of Florida because the film will 'anger' the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush."

    Later, in a CNN interview, Moore admitted he'd learned nearly a year ago that Disney would not distribute the movie. By pretending he'd just gotten word of this, Moore was involved in a cheap publicity stunt. And it wasn't the New York Times that said, on its own, that Disney feared losing tax breaks. It was Moore's agent who was quoted as saying that in the Times. Disney denied its president Michael Eisner had told the agent of any such fear. "We informed both the agency that represented the film and all of our companies that we just didn't want to be in the middle of a politically oriented film during an election year," Eisner told ABC News.

    Where does this leave us? I think it's time for Moore to be held accountable. In Stupid White Men, he has 18 pages of "Notes and Sources," but he offers no evidence for the sham interview with me--no date, no transcript. How could he, since the interview never happened?

    I have just the person to look into Moore's lies and distortions. Al Franken has taken special interest in public liars, writing a bestseller called Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. Al, the Moore case is now in your court.

    Fred Barnes is executive editor of The Weekly Standard.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/127ujhuf.asp

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    AGGH .... Michael Moore, I still havent forgotten his bag o lies in "Bowling For Columbine"

    That man pisses me off and now hes insulting all those who died that day with more crap coming out of his mouth

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    • #3
      He needs to be assasinated.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Major_Armstrong
        He needs to be assasinated.
        I say we stick him in Abu Ghraib. Just no pictures. Then we'll have a legitimate way to torture the terrorists. We'll just say, "You tell us what we want to know or we'll stick you in a cell with that fat piece of shit."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Leader
          I say we stick him in Abu Ghraib. Just no pictures. Then we'll have a legitimate way to torture the terrorists. We'll just say, "You tell us what we want to know or we'll stick you in a cell with that fat piece of shit."
          Wouldent him and the Iraqis get along just fine?

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          • #6
            No info that way. How can you question an Iraqi that has just been eaten by Mike?
            No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
            I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
            even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
            He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Confed999
              No info that way. How can you question an Iraqi that has just been eaten by Mike?
              Lmao :) I ment by "getting along" that because they both hate Bush and America, they could compare hatred of us.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChrisF202
                Wouldent him and the Iraqis get along just fine?
                Not when he starts talking about his idea of morality. If you think about it the Islamic fascist and the liberals, they should hate each other’s guts. The liberal is what the Islamists thinks every American is like, a completely morally bankrupt individual.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Leader
                  Not when he starts talking about his idea of morality. If you think about it the Islamic fascist and the liberals, they should hate each other’s guts. The liberal is what the Islamists thinks every American is like, a completely morally bankrupt individual.
                  Your right about the morality, the Muslims hate the liberal version of morality, abortion, gay marriage whole deal

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ChrisF202
                    Your right about the morality, the Muslims hate the liberal version of morality, abortion, gay marriage whole deal
                    In Saudi Arabia on April 16, 2001, five homosexuals were sentenced to 2,600 lashes and 6 years in prison, and four others to 2,400 lashes and 5 years’ imprisonment for “deviant sexual behavior.” Amnesty International subsequently reported that six men were executed on charges of deviant sexual behavior, some of which were related to their sexual orientation, but it was uncertain whether the six men who were executed were among the nine who were sentenced to flogging and imprisonment in April (2).

                    http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...le.asp?ID=5704
                    Pain is just weakness leaving the body. USMC
                    Semper Fi

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                    • #11
                      Bowling For Truth

                      Originally posted by ChrisF202
                      AGGH .... Michael Moore, I still havent forgotten his bag o lies in "Bowling For Columbine"

                      That man pisses me off and now hes insulting all those who died that day with more crap coming out of his mouth
                      BRAINWASHED:
                      Bowling for Columbine is a smash hit in Americas universities where unsuspecting students accept it as a factual documentary. Moore's own BFC website even contains a 'teachers guide' to help teachers use the movie in the classroom. A brand new book explores the lack of divirsity of thought
                      http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/
                      Pain is just weakness leaving the body. USMC
                      Semper Fi

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by themuffinman
                        In Saudi Arabia on April 16, 2001, five homosexuals were sentenced to 2,600 lashes and 6 years in prison, and four others to 2,400 lashes and 5 years’ imprisonment for “deviant sexual behavior.” Amnesty International subsequently reported that six men were executed on charges of deviant sexual behavior, some of which were related to their sexual orientation, but it was uncertain whether the six men who were executed were among the nine who were sentenced to flogging and imprisonment in April (2).

                        http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...le.asp?ID=5704
                        While I dont agree with some of the things homosexuals want, one cant choose his/her sexual peference. 2,400 - 2,600 lashes and 5 - 6 years is brutal torture and a mass voilation of human rights.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ChrisF202
                          While I dont agree with some of the things homosexuals want, one cant choose his/her sexual peference. 2,400 - 2,600 lashes and 5 - 6 years is brutal torture and a mass voilation of human rights.
                          I agree. But this is what they do in other country's like the middle east. i
                          Pain is just weakness leaving the body. USMC
                          Semper Fi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Major_Armstrong
                            He needs to be assasinated.
                            Do we have to have this kind of stuff on this board?
                            at

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Trooth
                              Do we have to have this kind of stuff on this board?
                              That's his opinion.
                              No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
                              I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
                              even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
                              He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry

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