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  • 2025 American Political (ob-?)Scene

    The election is forcing much change, and it seems none too early to start the prologue for what is coming next year.
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    David Perdue, Trump’s nominee for Ambassador to China, is a curious choice. He was a senior VP at Reebok, which is not known as a “buy American, shun China” kind of business. He was CEO of Dollar General, the low-price, overwhelmingly imported general merchandise retail chain. He also has a single term of office in the US Senate, something few before him have managed to achieve (incumbent reelection is the norm).

    He has two attributes that make him highly qualified for high office in this administration. First, he believes in election irregularities even where courts have found none. And second, he has a quasi-criminal stain on his record for insider trading while serving in the Senate.

    Trust me?
    I'm an economist!

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    • #3
      Here's one for all you fiscal conservatives out there!

      Trump calls for abolishing the debt ceiling
      NBC, Dec 19, 2024

      President-elect Donald Trump said Thursday that Congress should get rid of the debt ceiling, a day after he came out against a deal reached by congressional lawmakers to fund the government before a shutdown occurs.

      You can’t make this stuff up, so keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ing-rcna184820

      Trust me?
      I'm an economist!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DOR View Post
        Here's one for all you fiscal conservatives out there!

        Trump calls for abolishing the debt ceiling
        Well yeah. Donald Trump is economically speaking a Democrat on everything except taxes. I've said it a few times.

        As far as 2025, the state of the House of Representatives being so narrowly held is going to make it a completely worthless body as comes to legislation, which means legislatively everything with any sense of partisanship would be coming out of the Senate ex-spending bills because the Senate can't start those. I expect the Executive Branch to therefore be superpowered as comes to getting the actual sh*t that needs done done, which suits Trump fine. I also expect people like Thomas Massie to get vilified by the GOP by the time we get to 2026.

        First potential Trump coalition family argument coming as relates to H1-B visas. Trump came out in favor of them and backing Elon Musk who is hard pro-H1-B visas. Some tea leaves on Musk's potential power in the new administration even against some of previously Trump's staunchest allies and supporters like Steve Bannon.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CNN
          Tuesday, 21 January 2025
          Trump strips Bolton's security detail upon taking office.
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          Within hours of taking office, President Donald Trump terminated the Secret Service detail that was assigned to his former national security adviser John Bolton. CNN's Kaitlan Collins reports the details.
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          • #6
            Trump campaign against diversity urges government employees to turn informer
            https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ay-2025-01-22/
            Is here anything more despicable then: an “informer”?
            Here’s an effort to turn work colleagues against each other!
            Shades of Joe McCarthy!!!
            When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Amled View Post
              https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ay-2025-01-22/
              Is here anything more despicable then: an “informer”?
              Here’s an effort to turn work colleagues against each other!
              Shades of Joe McCarthy!!!
              No, Shades of East Germany

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

                No, Shades of East Germany
                Well they’re both dead; and thankfully gone!
                But, this is only the first weeks of his regime!!!


                The Black Hats; and their tools, might be different, but their techniques…
                The Children’s Story
                James Clavell

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1AL3WFzsv0
                When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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                • #9
                  News just coming in that 88 FBI agents involved in criminal investigations of Trump have been fired and then walked out of their offices. Allegedly they were informed that the reason they were being dismissed was precisely because they did investigate Trump! Trump has of course gone on record saying this was not the reason. This is going to get real ugly! There has to be grounds for a wrongful dismissal case.
                  If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Monash View Post
                    News just coming in that 88 FBI agents involved in criminal investigations of Trump have been fired and then walked out of their offices. Allegedly they were informed that the reason they were being dismissed was precisely because they did investigate Trump! Trump has of course gone on record saying this was not the reason. This is going to get real ugly! There has to be grounds for a wrongful dismissal case.
                    This destructive power grab is just getting started. They seem to be going after not only the few at the top at FBI & DoJ, but also hundreds of FBI agents who investigated crimes committed on the 1/6 attack on the Capitol. And Musk is making a power grab on the Federal payments system at Treasury.

                    Originally posted by MSNBC

                    Friday, 31 January 2025
                    'That's what a banana republic does': Trump's 'dangerous' purge of FBI & DOJ begins
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                    MSNBC's Ali Velshi is joined by David Rohde, NBC News Senior Executive Editor for National Security, and former U.S. attorney Joyce Vance, to discuss the breaking news of the firings of a slew of high-ranking leaders at the FBI and Justice Dept. prosecutors tied to January 6 cases.

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                    Saturday, 01 February 2025
                    Top Treasury official exits as Musk makes grab for federal payment system
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                    The highest-ranking career official at the Treasury Department announced his retirement Friday after decades of service, following a dispute with surrogates for Elon Musk over the federal payment system through which trillions of dollars are distributed every year. Isaac Arnsdorf, senior White House reporter for the Washington Post, discusses with Rachel Maddow.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JRT View Post

                      This destructive power grab is just getting started. They seem to be going after not only the few at the top at FBI & DoJ, but also hundreds of FBI agents who investigated crimes committed on the 1/6 attack on the Capitol. And Musk is making a power grab on the Federal payments system at Treasury.
                      This piece of shit sums it up. Him and I really should have a face to face, New Yorker to New Yorker, but he is most of all, a coward. As for Musk I'd kick his ass back to South Africa. Oh, wait, apartheid is out of favor. Hmm, even better.

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                      • #12
                        Looks like Musk has gained control of the US Treasury Department's payments system, what is euphemistically characterized as the nations federal checkbook. This is potentially extremely dangerous to the ongoing continuation of "the full faith and credit" of The United States, because just one of the things at risk is the US Dollar's continued position as the world's reserve currency, which could quickly evaporate if Musk decides to delay payment on US Treasury debt instruments (bonds, etc.).

                        Credit = Trust
                        ...can't have one without the other.

                        Originally posted by Bloomberg_News
                        Monday, 03 February 2025
                        Musk and DOGE Appear to Have Access to Sensitive Treasury Payment Systems
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                        Elon Musk said his “DOGE team” of government efficiency enforcers is shutting down some payments to federal contractors, suggesting that the world’s richest man may have access to sensitive systems used at the US Treasury Department.
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                        • #13
                          Never mind.
                          The Orange Anti-Christ has decreed that all grocery prices will bow down to him, from on top of a mountain of new taxes, er, "tariffs."
                          Trust me?
                          I'm an economist!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                            As for Musk I'd kick his ass back to South Africa. Oh, wait, apartheid is out of favor. Hmm, even better.
                            He's not a legitimate American in my book. It seems plainly evident he committed immigration fraud and lied several times on federal forms regarding his status and on his citizenship application back in the 90s.

                            Now for $290 million in political funding, we have a grifting, goosestepping, sieg heiling illegal immigrant, unelected, exercising powers with no confirmation or oversight, being given full rein to raid and rampage through all sorts of federal office and agencies.

                            He can fire whomever he wants unchecked, ignoring any law governing and regulating the civil service, access any system, record, or file without regard to sensitivity, security, or classification levels, all the while retaining his roles at his menagerie of taxpayer-funded and taxpayer-subsidized businesses that have sucked on the public teat for the better part of two decades.

                            He feels he's been victimized and unfairly regulated and fined by the FAA in the past, and demanded the heads of the FAA top brass last fall in a Sept 25th tweet, and was obliged. Nine days into this second term, we get a plane crash with 67 dead. Thanks Elon.
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                            "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                            • #15
                              Laws are being broken, but who is going to enforce the law, and against whom?

                              Is it going to be a constitutionally defined nation with balance of power and rule of law, or is it devolving into rule by law by the elites holding the executive power?

                              Trump has been elected POTUS, and the SCOTUS has already ruled that except for POTUS' removal from office by processes clearly defined in the Constitution (eg. his finite four year term in office, the 22nd amendment limiting reelections, 25th amendment removal by cabinet, congressional impeachment, etc.) the POTUS, in all actions taken as POTUS, is above criminal law and civil law. And likewise so seems now the power of his agents acting under his authority, and with protection of immunity by the POTUS' executive power. Nobody is going to remove Trump anytime soon. Federal law enforcement and prosecution are (or will soon be) under his executive control, are no longer independent from Whitehouse control. Neither SCOTUS nor Congress have means of enforcing their authority, except by congressional impeachment, which isn't happening.
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