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  • Originally posted by Monash View Post
    Out of curiosity what are SNL and other satirical shows doing with the current impasse?
    It looks like they're back on the air....
    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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    • Originally posted by Monash View Post
      Out of curiosity what are SNL and other satirical shows doing with the current impasse?
      Not sure with the writers strike so no new shows recently. But I imagine it will be past my bedtime.
      “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
      Mark Twain

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      • One more reason we can't let this traitorous clown anywhere near the Oval Office again.

        https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...to-1234860016/


        Trump Plots to Pull Out of NATO — If He Doesn’t Get His Way

        At the very least, the former president wants to put the U.S. on “standby” mode — and undermine NATO’s principle of collective defense

        BY ASAWIN SUEBSAENG, ADAM RAWNSLEY

        Donald Trump wanted to pull the United States out of NATO during his first term, but was repeatedly talked out of it by senior administration officials. For a possible second term in the White House, the 2024 Republican presidential frontrunner is already discussing how he could actually get it done, if his demands aren’t met by NATO. He and his policy-wonk allies are also gaming out how he could dramatically wind down American involvement to merely a “standby” position in NATO, in Trump’s own words.

        When the former president has privately discussed the United States’ role in the transatlantic military alliance this year, Trump has made clear that he doesn’t want the upper ranks of a second administration to be staffed by “NATO lovers,” according to two sources who’ve heard him make such comments. The ex-president has made these kinds of jabs at the longstanding alliance during conversations related to the ongoing Russian war in Ukraine.

        Trump, the sources say, has continued to express an openness to pulling the U.S. out of NATO altogether. However, Trump has suggested that this could be averted if the alliance — which Trump once famously called “obsolete” — gives in to his newest demands. This would include his desires for non-American members to further and steeply increase their defense spending, and for a reevaluation of the bedrock principle that an attack on one member is tantamount to an attack on all.


        When he was in office, Trump would repeatedly scoff at this collective-defense clause of the North Atlantic Treaty, known as Article 5. One former senior administration official recalls to Rolling Stone a moment in the Oval Office in mid-2018 when the then-president started reading from a written list of smaller NATO countries, some of which he argued most Americans had never even heard of before.

        Trump then vented that “starting World War III” over some of these countries’ sovereignty made absolutely no sense, and that he shouldn’t be forced to automatically commit American troops to any such crisis.

        Any threats or action on Trump’s part in recasting the U.S.’s role in NATO would all, of course, be contingent on Trump winning reelection next year. When he was leader of the free world for four years, he dangled anti-NATO sentiments on multiple occasions, only to yield to intra-administration pushback.

        “It would be a tremendously stupid endeavor, especially at a time when war in Europe rages, and much of Europe is looking to the United States to deter further conflict,” Dr. Aaron Stein, a Black Sea Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, says, reacting to Trump’s NATO-skeptic policy goals. “Trading away allies based on ignorance, and Trump is ignorant about this issue, is just silly for broader U.S. national security.”

        But this time around, an array of nationalist allies and pro-Trump policy wonks have been eager to offer the ex-president frameworks for how to MAGA-fy the U.S. approach to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. One possibility that has piqued Trump’s interest in recent months is what the former president has privately branded, “NATO on standby,” according to sources familiar with his private musings. One source close to Trump describes the idea as having the potential to “blast a hole straight through NATO.”

        Trump’s idea reflects some of the arguments laid out in a policy brief, published in February by researcher and conservative writer Dr. Sumantra Maitra, titled: “Pivoting the US Away from Europe to a Dormant NATO.” The paper was posted by the Center for Renewing America, a think tank stacked with Trump administration veterans and MAGA Republicans that is laying groundwork to be a premier policy driver if Trump retakes the presidency. “The NATO bureaucracy is a barrier in the path of reduced American commitment,” the brief reads. “It is self-sustaining and prone to push missions that are beyond NATO’s core role and, at times, opposed to the domestic interests of the United States. Radically reducing the NATO bureaucracy should be a chief aim.”
        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
        Mark Twain

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        • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
          One more reason we can't let this traitorous clown anywhere near the Oval Office again.

          https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...to-1234860016/

          But but but what about his POLICIES??
          “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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          • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

            But but but what about his POLICIES??
            It's his fucking policies which got us here in the first place!!!
            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
            Mark Twain

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            • Tom Emmer nominated for Speaker. Trump immediately calls him a RINO and that it would be a mistake to pick him. So his nomination is DOA.

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              • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

                It's his fucking policies which got us here in the first place!!!
                I'm sure that's just your "TDS" talking....Trump couldn't possibly have done anything wrong, except being too soft on the liberals.
                “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                • Originally posted by statquo View Post
                  Tom Emmer nominated for Speaker. Trump immediately calls him a RINO and that it would be a mistake to pick him. So his nomination is DOA.
                  Yeah he's already dropped his candidacy.
                  “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                  • He seems to be the least odious so far. Maybe the Dems should throw a few votes over to the least bad guy to get nominated.
                    "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                    • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

                      Yeah he's already dropped his candidacy.
                      The Republicans will soon be approaching Lord of the Flies school boy behavior

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                      • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                        He seems to be the least odious so far. Maybe the Dems should throw a few votes over to the least bad guy to get nominated.
                        I was thinking the same thing myself. The only problem is the GoP is so toxic at the moment that Trumps proxies would instantly label Emmer as a sellout and/or traitor and try to launch another motion to vacate asap. The only way for him to hold the chair after that would be for at least a few Republicans to vote against that move in sync with the Democrats (assuming you could get all Democrats on board with the idea to begin with). However doing that puts you in direct conflict with Trump as well and gets you labelled as a 'traitor' alongside Emmer.

                        And so the wheels on the bus go round and round ......

                        I so love mandatory voting.
                        If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                        • McCarthy was #1, Scalise #2, Emmer #3

                          So they’re going to go with an amateur to run the House? As is the new tradition.

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                          • Originally posted by statquo View Post
                            McCarthy was #1, Scalise #2, Emmer #3

                            So they’re going to go with an amateur to run the House? As is the new tradition.
                            How about an unemployed circus ringmaster?
                            If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                            • I am getting the feeling that the Republican Party is not too far away from splitting. Been awhile since that has happened but it has happened.

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                              • Originally posted by statquo View Post
                                McCarthy was #1, Scalise #2, Emmer #3

                                So they’re going to go with an amateur to run the House? As is the new tradition.
                                Three. Effing. WEEKS.
                                “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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