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  • TopHatter
    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    The walls of Mar-a-Lago must reek of ketchup!
    And orange-streaked tears lol

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  • Albany Rifles
    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

    2:30 in the morning....What I want to know is, who's the poor slob that has to actually type Trump's histrionic rantings into the Pravda Social website at that ridiculous hour?
    The walls of Mar-a-Lago must reek of ketchup!

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  • TopHatter
    Trump tells judge in fraud case to leave his children alone

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    Trump tells judge in fraud case to leave his children alone

    Former President Trump railed against the judge overseeing his New York civil fraud case and told him to leave his children alone, in a post early Wednesday morning.

    He also argued that there is enough evidence for the case to be thrown out.

    “This Rigged Trial, brought by the Racist New York State A.G. Letitia James before Trump and developer Hating Judge, Arthur Engoron, which should have never been brought in that the so-called STAR WITNESS, SleazeBag Lawyer (for many people) Michael Cohen, admitted last week on the stand that he LIED,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, referencing his former personal lawyer.

    “Therefore, on that fact alone, this Fake Case should be dismissed,” he added.

    The former president claimed in his post that the financial statements from his businesses were actually lower than the true value — contrary to some of the testimony presented in the trial. He also reiterated the defense’s argument that there was a “disclaimer clause” on the statements and that banks were paid in full.

    “There is no Victim (except me!). Leave my children alone, Engoron,” Trump added, addressing the judge. “You are a disgrace to the legal profession!”

    His comments come amid the ongoing civil trial brought on by New York Attorney General Letitia James against Trump’s businesses and his two oldest sons — Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. The case claims the family falsely inflated and deflated the value of the Trump Organization assets to receive lower taxes and better insurance coverage for years.

    Trump Jr. is expected to take the stand in the trial on Wednesday and Eric Trump is expected to take the stand on Thursday.

    Their testimony could provide critical insight into the company’s structure and their complicity in the alleged fraud. The two sons are executive vice presidents of the company.

    Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, is also expected to testify in the case. She was once named as a defendant in the lawsuit, but a New York appeals court in June dismissed her from the case, arguing the statute of limitations had lapsed.

    The former president will officially give his testimony in the trial on Monday.

    He briefly took the witness stand last week to defend comments he made to reporters that the judge ruled violated a limited gag order. Trump was fined twice for the violations.

    2:30 in the morning....What I want to know is, who's the poor slob that has to actually type Trump's histrionic rantings into the Pravda Social website at that ridiculous hour?

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  • TopHatter
    Legal expert: Trump kids will turn fraud trial testimony into a "political spectacle"

    Eric, Ivanka and Donald Jr. look on as Donald Trump speaks during a press conference January 11, 2017 at Trump Tower in New York.

    Former President Donald Trump’s three oldest children are set to testify next week in the $250 million civil fraud lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

    The lawsuit accuses the former president and other defendants of committing massive fraud in New York for years by repeatedly inflating Trump’s wealth by hundreds of millions of dollars to get better terms for loans and insurance policies while building his real estate empire.

    Prior to the trial, Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump as well as the other defendants were liable for fraud and that the trial would determine how much of a penalty Trump should pay. The judge canceled Trump’s business licenses, but an appeals court paused that part of the judge’s order.

    While Trump’s control of the companies may still be in jeopardy, there's no immediate requirement for him to dissolve the legal entities he uses to manage his properties, The New York Times reported.

    After more than four weeks of the trial, James is planning to call Trump’s sons and his daughter Ivanka to the witness stand. Donald Trump Jr. is set to testify next Wednesday, Eric Trump on Thursday and Ivanka Trump on Nov. 3, but her lawyers may appeal to try to block her testimony. Trump himself is set to testify Nov. 6.

    To date, sixteen witnesses have provided their testimonies in the trial. However, Gregory Germain, Syracuse University law professor, told Salon that he doesn't expect that the testimony of the Trump children to contribute to the primary issue under consideration by the judge — a central issue that revolves around determining the extent to which the Trump Organization may have benefited unjustly by using inflated financial statements to secure loans and insurance policies.

    “I suspect that they will say that Donald was advised by experts in everything he did, and they will try to justify their valuations as statements of opinion that are not actionable,” Germain said.

    But, for Trump, this case is not just about the remaining legal issues, he added.

    “It's also about publicity and politics, and trying to show in the court of public opinion that the decision the judge already made was wrong and unfair,” Germain said. “So his sons' testimony is likely to be a political spectacle rather than anything relevant to the remaining legal issues.”

    The former president himself has participated in different spectacles since the trial began. Last week, he abruptly left the trial in frustration when Engoron issued an unfavorable ruling. Trump also lashed out on his social media platform Truth Social, posting about how Ivanka was initially released from this case and complained about how he is a victim of a "Trump-hating" judge.

    “[B]ut this Trump Hating, Unhinged Judge, who ruled me guilty before this Witch Hunt Trial even started, couldn’t care less about the fact that he was overturned,” Trump wrote. I also won on Appeal on Statute of Limitations, but he refuses to accept their decision. I truly believe he is CRAZY, but certainly, at a minimum, CRAZED in his hatred of me…”

    Within the first week of trial, Engoron issued a limited gag order against Trump, prohibiting him from making comments about individuals working on the judge's team on social media. The order came after Trump had posted an image of the judge’s clerk, Allison Greenfield, with Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, and mocked her as “Schumer’s girlfriend.”

    While Trump’s post was deleted on Oct. 3, a version of it was displayed on the ex-president’s campaign website until last week. Engoron called the post a “blatant violation” of his gag order and fined Trump $5,000.

    Engoron fined Trump another $10,000 after he left the courtroom on Wednesday and proceeded to tell the media that Engoron is partisan and so is the person who’s “sitting alongside him. Perhaps even much more partisan than he is,” appearing to go after Greenfield again.

    Even though Trump tried to defend himself and said his remark wasn't about the clerk, the judge called his testimony "not credible.” Trump has paid the $15,000 in fines, but is expected to appeal the gag order, according to a court filing Friday.

    Now, as Trump’s children are being asked to testify, things are beginning to heat up again.

    "The fact that Ivanka was originally a defendant and is now being called as a witness might indicate some form of cooperation, but it remains to be seen what form that cooperation may take — it may be minimal, and I wouldn't expect any explosive revelations from Trump's own daughter,” Jamie White, an attorney who handles criminal defense and civil rights cases, told Salon.

    James, who is an experienced prosecutor, would not issue “frivolous subpoenas, or bring people to the witness stand knowing they'll simply take the 5th,” White added, explaining that it would be a “waste of the prosecutor's resources.”

    "Because Judge Engoron has already ruled that Trump is liable for fraud by falsely inflating the value of his company's properties, all that remains is to decide the penalties,” White said. “So there's no reason for Letitia James to bring the Trump children to the stand simply for purposes of showmanship. The only real question is establishing damages, and it is not unreasonable to assume that Ivanka or the other Trump children who were involved in running the family business may have that information."

    I'm sure that Daddy has already demanded that they "FIGHT!!" whilst on the stand....even if it gets them thrown in prison for perjury (but that's only a "process" crime, so I'm sure it'll turn out OK )

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  • TopHatter
    Originally posted by Monash View Post
    Still a big problem for the prosecution though and of course more fodder for MAGA conspiracy treadmill. Cohen recanting his evidence means he now potentially faces perjury charges relating to the 'false' information contained in his sworn affidavits (bad for him). However the prosecution is now forced to rely on the remaining witness testimony and other evidence to prove its case (bad for them). And make no mistake Cohen was an important witness.
    We'll see how it all plays out. I'm not convinced that Cohen's testimony is completely compromised, not yet anyway.

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  • Monash
    Still a big problem for the prosecution though and of course more fodder for MAGA conspiracy treadmill. Cohen recanting his evidence means he now potentially faces perjury charges relating to the 'false' information contained in his sworn affidavits (bad for him). However the prosecution is now forced to rely on the remaining witness testimony and other evidence to prove its case (bad for them). And make no mistake Cohen was an important witness.

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  • TopHatter
    Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
    It is about time Trump run up against some people, face to face, who he can't intimidate. We need more of that. Unfortunately we have a lot of spinless people who want to hang onto his coattails for either profit (risky) or fame (yeah, what kind). The true believers are in it for another reason and that is to stick to all us normal Americans as they don't believe in what the word majority means.
    It turned out to get even better (or worse, depending on which side of Cult45 one finds oneself on)

    Donald Trump Storms Out of Trial with Secret Service 'Chasing' Behind, Prompting Courtroom Gasps: Report
    The former president reportedly threw his hands up, said "I'm leaving," and abruptly exited the courtroom on Wednesday after a judge denied his request to throw out his civil fraud case

    Donald Trump stormed out of his civil fraud trial on Wednesday to courtroom gasps, moments after his former attorney Michael Cohen backtracked on earlier testimony about whether he had lied to Congress.

    In this courtroom sketch, Judge Arthur Engoron questions former President Donald Trump on the witness stand in New York Supreme Court, Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2023, in New York. Engoron has fined Trump $10,000, saying that Trump violated a limited gag order barring personal attacks on court staffers

    CNN reports that Cohen appeared to offer inconsistent testimonies this week about whether Trump directed him or former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg to inflate numbers on his personal financial statements.

    When Cohen ultimately stated that Trump never directly instructed him to inflate the value of his assets, Trump's lawyers asked for the judge to issue a directed verdict in Trump's favor on the grounds that their case had just been proved. The judge denied the motion.

    At that point, various outlets report, the former president threw up his hands, said, "I'm leaving," and walked out of the courtroom trailed by Secret Service agents as members of the courtroom gasped.

    One NBC News reporter described the situation on X by writing that Secret Service agents were "chasing after him" when he left the court, in a move that was described as "completely unexpected and surprising to his own attorneys."

    Once outside, Trump told reporters, “The witness just admitted that we won the trial. And the judge should end this trial immediately.”

    Earlier in the day, Trump was fined $10,000 by the judge in the case for violating a gag order during a break in the hearing when he spoke to reporters outside the courthouse.

    “This judge is a very partisan judge with a person who is very partisan sitting alongside him — perhaps even much more partisan than he is," Trump said at the time — a remark the judge said was likely in reference to a clerk (which Trump disputed).

    Cohen was sentenced to three years in federal prison in late 2018 after telling authorities he helped coordinate hush payments to a number of women on Trump's behalf, including to Stormy Daniels, in an effort to keep the president's past alleged affairs quiet ahead of the election.

    The president's longtime lawyer, who represented Trump from 2006 until 2018, also pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a Russian real estate project the president was working to complete during his 2016 campaign. Trump's 2016 election bid has been investigated for alleged ties to Russian interference, which critics claim helped the president win the historic, shocking election.

    Trump's Wednesday appearance in court comes as part of a fraud case brought against him and and senior executives at his company by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

    The lawsuit alleges that the former president — with the help of his adult children and the executives mentioned in the filing — falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars in an effort to induce banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms and to obtain other economic and tax benefits.

    James' office said in a press release that "from 2011-2021, Mr. Trump and the Trump Organization knowingly and intentionally created more than 200 false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions."

    The Trumps have argued that James' investigation is politically motivated, which she has repeatedly denied.

    In a press conference, James said she seeks to make Trump pay $250 million in fines, ban the family from operating any New York businesses in the future, and ban the former president and the Trump Organization from buying commercial real estate in New York for five years.

    Since leaving office in 2021, the former president has been mired in a number of legal issues and investigations on various fronts, including into his political conduct and business affairs.

    Four of those investigations have led to indictments — the first one making him the only U.S. president to face criminal charges, and the next two further distinguishing him as the only president to face federal charges.

    Imagine believing this petulant little bitch is "The Chosen One"....

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  • tbm3fan
    It is about time Trump run up against some people, face to face, who he can't intimidate. We need more of that. Unfortunately we have a lot of spinless people who want to hang onto his coattails for either profit (risky) or fame (yeah, what kind). The true believers are in it for another reason and that is to stick to all us normal Americans as they don't believe in what the word majority means.

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  • TopHatter
    Judge Forces Trump to Testify for Insult Then Fines Him $10K

    In a shocking turn of events, the New York judge presiding over Donald Trump’s bank fraud trial ordered the former president to testify Wednesday over an insult Trump threw at the judge’s law clerk.

    After a brief testimony by Trump, Justice Arthur F. Engoron formally called him out.

    “As the trier of fact, I find that the witness is not credible, that he was referring to my law clerk, who is sitting much closer to me, who doesn’t have a barrier,” he said. “I hereby fine you $10,000, which is on the liberal side, to be paid within 30 days.”

    During a court break earlier in the day, Trump held an impromptu press conference outside the courtroom in which he complained about the “person who’s very partisan sitting alongside of [the judge],” an oblique reference to attorney Allison Greenfield, who advises the judge on this case.

    Immediately after that, Justice Arthur F. Engoron warned Trump’s lawyers that he was in clear violation of the gag order he imposed at the very start of the trial. Defense attorney Christopher Kise claimed that Trump was actually referring to the witness, Trump’s sworn enemy and former lawyer Michael Cohen. The judge said he’d take the matter under advisement.

    However, when trial continued after a lunch break, Engoron held a surprise hearing in which he ordered Trump to take the witness stand—marking the first time the real estate tycoon has done so in his ongoing legal troubles.

    After a visibly perturbed Trump was sworn in, the judge asked him who he was referring to when he directed his anger at the person sitting next to the judge who's “very partisan.”

    “Are you sure you didn't mean on the other side of me, my principal law clerk?” Engoron asked.

    “Yes actually,” Trump said, sticking to his story.

    Engoron probed further, asking Trump if he had previously refererred to his law clerk as a “partisan democrat?”

    “She may be unfair. I think she's very biased against us. I think we made that clear… we put up a picture, and you didn’t want that up… we didn’t necessarily agree with that... and we didn’t take it down,” Trump said.

    But Engoron wouldn’t buy it.

    “As you can see, my principal law clerk is very close to me,” Engoron said. “You and I see can see each other, we're close, but we're not as close, clearly. And there's a barrier between us.”

    “Don’t you always refer to Michael Cohen as Michael Cohen?” Engoron pressed on.

    “No,” Trump shot back.

    Engoron, clearly frustrated, frowned as he moved his tongue under his cheek.

    “The witness is excused, I have no further questions,” he said.

    “Thank you, sir,” Trump said, then walked out of the witness box.

    Engoron then issued his ruling, which sparked protests from defense lawyers Christopher Kise and Alina Habba.

    “I think that’s a dangerous place to go, not just with the sanction but with the trial,” Kise warned.

    The judge said he wouldn’t reconsider, and started up the trial again.

    Fucking AWESOME

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  • TopHatter
    Quash my subpoena, Ivanka Trump tells NY judge, in asking not to testify against her father.
    • Ivanka Trump has been subpoenaed to testify in her dad's ongoing civil fraud trial in New York.
    • She is fighting the subpoena, arguing through her lawyers that it is overly broad.
    • She would be asked about hundreds of millions in loans that NY alleges she negotiated via fraud.
    Ivanka Trump is fighting hard against being forced to testify against her father and brothers in the ongoing Trump civil fraud trial in New York.

    On the eve of a Friday deadline, by which she must agree to take the stand as early as later this month, her lawyer made a lengthy objection to her subpoena.

    The objection, in court papers filed late Thursday, calls the New York Attorney General's Office subpoena overly broad.

    It also accuses the AG's office of botching how it served Ivanka Trump with her subpoena, alleging a technical foul her lawyer says should invalidate her obligation to testify.

    The technical foul? Copies of the subpoena was sent to three of her corporate addresses, but not to her personally, said the lawyer, Bennet J. Moskowitz.

    "Each of these three subpoenas listed Ms. Trump's name only in the 'to' line above the LLCs' names and the names and addresses of their registered agents," Moskowitz wrote.

    "The body of the Subpoenas requested a 'personal appearance' 'to give testimony' at trial but did not identify any specific employee, officer, or director that the NYAG wanted to appear," he wrote.

    The former president's eldest daughter was originally named as a defendant in Attorney General Letitia James' lawsuit, but her name was removed earlier this year.

    A state appellate panel noted that she had ceased all Trump Organization responsibilities in early 2017, when she followed her father to Washington, and so the AG's claims against her were barred under statute of limitations grounds.

    Still, she is central to the case against Trump and four of the company's longstanding executives, including her brothers Donald Trump, Jr., and Eric Trump. These five remaining defendants and are not barred by the statute of limitations, because the AG alleges they continued a course of fraudulent action during the Trump administration and beyond.

    Ivanka was Trump Org's executive vice president for development and acquisitions through 2016. In that role, she negotiated and secured hundreds of millions of dollars in financing for Trump's properties, including the Old Post Office hotel project in Washington, DC, the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, and the Trump National Doral golf course in Miami.

    James alleges that Trump and his company used fraudulently exaggerated net-worth statements in winning favorable interest rates and other benefits from lenders, particularly Deutsche Bank, for which Ivanka Trump was her father's primary point-woman.

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  • TopHatter
    Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

    Can I buy a front row seat for a face to face with a judge?
    Princess Tiny Hands got slapped with a $5000 fine and an admonishment that he is “way beyond the ‘warning’ stage" for that little 'oversight'

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  • tbm3fan
    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

    He needs to have Trump approach the bench and warn him, face to face, what will happen.
    Can I buy a front row seat for a face to face with a judge?

    Sounds like I want a face to face. Judge I'm clean.

    I meant can I buy a seat to watch the event and be ringside?
    Last edited by tbm3fan; 21 Oct 23,, 03:10.

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  • TopHatter
    Judge Threatens ‘Imprisoning’ Trump for ‘Blatantly’ Violating Gag Order
    Trump’s New York AG case isn’t supposed to be a criminal case, but it may result in Trump getting thrown in jail anyway.

    The judge overseeing Donald Trump’s bank fraud trial threatened to throw the former president in jail—and hit him with punishing fines—for “blatantly” violating a gag order by refusing to delete a website post attacking court staff.

    Justice Arthur F. Engoron, striking a serious tone, began Friday at trial by laying out the high stakes and demanding that Trump’s lawyers explain themselves.

    “In the current overheated climate, incendiary comments can and in some cases already has, led to serious physical harm and worse. I will now allow the defendants to explain why this blatant violation of the gag order would not result in serious sanctions, including financial sanctions and/or possibly imprisoning him,” Engoron said.

    The case that Engoron is presiding over—Trump’s New York bank fraud trial—is a civil matter, meaning jail time wasn’t ever supposed to be in the cards, only stiff fines and a threat to ruin his real estate empire.

    But now, Trump appears to be facing a very real threat of spending time in jail if his antics continue.

    Defense lawyer Christopher Kise immediately apologized for Trump’s behavior, blaming the 2024 Republican presidential candidate’s bloated “campaign machinery” for simply forgetting to remove a webpage that mirrored the Truth Social post Trump had already deleted.

    “There was no intention to evade or circumvent or ignore the order. I assure you that. I just know that this is a very large machine and this is one of the reasons, frankly, I don't have social media,” Kise said, trying to deflect with some light humor.

    “But that’s been taken down. And we don’t have any other… there were no subsequent postings,” Kise added.

    The judge didn’t immediately accept that excuse.

    “I will take that under advisement, but… Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine,” Engoron reminded him.

    The Daily Beast first reported that this lashing was coming Thursday night.

    The formal reprimand follows several warnings this judge has given for the out-of-control real estate tycoon—who has spent months intimidating witnesses and maligning judges and prosecutors—to not follow the same modus operandi in New York state court.

    At issue is the way that Trump managed to bungle the very start of his trial by lying about the judge’s top legal adviser. On the second day of trial earlier this month, Trump took to his Truth Social media network to share a MAGA-aligned Twitter user’s post asking, “Why is Judge Engoron's Principal Law Clerk, Allison R. Greenfield, palling around with Chuck Schumer?” Trump also linked to her personal Instagram page, drawing the attention of his huge fan base against her.

    On Friday morning, Engoron carefully went over what had already transpired thus far to remind Trump’s lawyers of the hot water they’re in, citing the “untrue disparaging and personally identifying post about my principal law clerk.” He also revealed what happened in his closed courtroom when reporters weren’t present.

    “I spoke to defendants on and off the record. Off the record, I ordered Donald Trump to remove the post immediately. Approximately 10 minutes later, Donald Trump represented to me that he had taken down the offending post,” he began.

    “I then, on the record, imposed on all parties to his action a very limited gag order forbidding ‘all parties from posting, emailing or speaking publicly about any members of my staff,’ emphasizing quite clearly that ‘personal attacks on members of my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate and I will not tolerate them under any circumstances,’” he recalled.

    “Despite this clear order, last night I learned that the subject of the offending post was never removed from the website, and in fact had been on that website for the past 17 days. I understand that it was removed late last night, but only in response to email from this court,” he went on.

    Engoron, who is typically easygoing in court, was anything but while he reprimanded Trump’s legal team. His threat of sanctions and jail time shows just how seriously he’s taking the matter, given that similar behavior by the embattled former president has led to a deluge of threats against prosecutors at the New York Attorney General’s Office, the Manhattan District Attorney, the Fulton County District Attorney, and those on the Department of Justice’s Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team.

    He needs to have Trump approach the bench and warn him, face to face, what will happen.

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  • TopHatter
    Trump Posts Article Doxing New York Attorney General Letitia James’ Home Address

    Trump posted an article from far right personality Laura Loomer attacking New York Attorney General Letitia James with unconfirmed, speculative allegations.

    In the article shared by Trump, Loomer posted a New York City Buildings violation form exposing the home address of James. Publishing the personal contact information and/or home address of an individual is called doxing.

    In another section of article Trump amplified a loan modification document is also shared which list NY AG James’ home address.

    James, who has been the subject of Trump’s online attacks, has stated in August she has experienced death threats since starting her prosecution of Trump and is taking precautions against a possible “lone wolf”attack.

    Trump has also repeatedly attacked James on Truth Social, including called her a “racist,”

    Trump Posts Attack James

    Earlier this month, James described Trump’s comments as “fomenting violence” and “race baiting.”

    Trump is under a gag order that reportedly applies to him talking about members of Judge Engoron’s staff. Posting a link to the personal address of his prosecutor for his millions of followers to see is way out of line and puts James in danger.

    Judge Chutkan in Trump’s federal January 6th case noted she has been threatened and recently issued a gag order preventing Trump from saying derogatory statements against Jack Smith, potential witnesses or the court.

    Judge Engoron will need to consider expanding Trump’s gag order against attacks and doxing or other unsafe disclosure of personal information against James and her office.

    Trump be back in court Tuesday. This would be a great time for Engoron to address Trump’s unhinged attacks and his reckless posting of a link doxing NY AG Letitia James’ home address.

    "Will no one rid me of this troublesome DA?"

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  • TopHatter
    Trump’s Longtime CFO Lied, Under Oath, About Trump Tower Penthouse

    In trying to distance himself from Donald Trump’s false financial statements, Allen Weisselberg kept lying.

    Allen Weisselberg, the longtime chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, lied in sworn testimony on Tuesday when questioned about Donald Trump’s penthouse atop Trump Tower.

    Weisselberg was on the stand as part of a $250 million lawsuit that the New York attorney general is waging against Trump and his associates, including Weisselberg, accusing them of lying about Trump’s net worth to financial institutions. To arrive at inflated figures, the Trump Organization used demonstrably incorrect facts, such as valuing Trump’s penthouse as if it contained 30,000 square feet, when it in fact consisted of 10,996.

    Under questioning, Weisselberg acknowledged that the 30,000-square-foot figure was wrong. He tried to suggest, however, that he had little to do with the bogus calculation, batting away a series of questions about the financial documents and discussions with Forbes, which has been valuing Trump’s fortune since 1982. “I never focused on the triplex, to be honest with you,” Weisselberg said. “It was almost de minimis relative to his net worth, so I really didn’t focus on it.”

    He repeated similar lines as his testimony continued. “I never focused on the apartment Mr. Trump owned,” he said at one point. At another: “I didn’t correlate the square footage of Donald’s apartment. I never focused on it. It was always in my mind a de minimis asset of the overall of Donald J. Trump’s statement of financial condition. That was never a concern of mine. I never even thought about the apartment. It was de minimis in my mind.”

    But that’s not true. A review of old emails and notes, some of which the attorney general’s office does not possess, show that Weisselberg absolutely thought about Trump’s apartment—and played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years that it was worth more than it really was. Given the fact that these discussions continued for years, and that Weisselberg took a very detailed approach in reviewing Trump’s assets with Forbes, it defies all logic to think he truly believes what he is now saying in court.

    The saga started in 2009, on a relatively friendly note. Forbes had been valuing Trump’s fortune for decades at that point, though some of his smaller assets remained absent from the overall calculation. Weisselberg and Trump summoned a Forbes reporter to a meeting, according to the reporter’s notes. The reporter was hesitant to add Trump’s personal home to the valuation, something Trump and his underlings seemed to be okay with at the time. “They understand if we don’t want to include the penthouse at Trump Tower,” the reporter noted.

    Three years later, in 2012, a different reporter wrote, “Allen asked why we count large private estates for other billionaires and not Trump. He said we should be including his NY penthouse. He thinks it’s worth more [than] $88m.” Weisselberg had a point. The penthouse wasn’t worth $88 million, but it was worth something. The reporter added it to the calculation with an estimated $64 million valuation.

    Weisselberg kept pushing. The next year, a reporter explained, “Now Allen says it’s worth $200M, and there’s no debt.” Believing the penthouse was nearly 30,000 square feet, the figure that the Trump Organization would eventually claim on its internal documents, the reporter decided to bump up the estimate to $90 million.

    A year later, in 2014, Weisselberg once again weighed in on the value. “Now Allen says it’s $163m with 0 debt,” a reporter wrote in her notes. “He is sending us sales records for One57”—a luxury apartment building nearby, which Trump’s financial statements also referenced—“and then applying a per-square-foot rate, based on 30k sf.”

    The reporter opted to leave the valuation at $90 million in her calculation and sent a summary of her estimates to Weisselberg and his deputy, Jeff McConney. Weisselberg then set up a phone call, which was followed by an email exchange, titled “Mr. Trump’s penthouse.” “Hi Jeff, Allen— I just wanted to let you know that I was not able to bump up the value of Mr. Trump’s penthouse this time. While I understand your point that it may indeed sell for more than $90 million due to its large square footage, this is still an untested market. Since no apartment in New York is known to have sold for more than that sum to date, we’re not comfortable upping the number at this time.” Weisselberg replied at 5:02 p.m. on a September Friday, delving into the weeds on the penthouse. “Thank you for the response, but keep in mind that his apartment is a triplex which consists of 6 apartments.”

    In 2015, Trump hosted three Forbes journalists inside Trump Tower, with Weisselberg by his side. “This is the entire floor of Trump Tower, just so you know,” Trump said, showing off his penthouse. “Now, this wraps all around the building. All around the elevators. And I have three times three. So there’s like 11,000 feet on a floor. So I have three. So 33,000—and I have the roof.”

    The next year, Forbes uncovered property records that showed that the penthouse was only 10,996 square feet, not 30,000 square feet or 33,000 square feet. Reporters reached out to Weisselberg and others at the Trump Organization to ask about the discrepancy, emails that are now being used as evidence in the case.

    Even after receiving those messages, the Trump Organization apparently continued to value the penthouse on its documents as if it had 30,000 square feet. It wasn’t until after Forbes published a story in May 2017, exposing the lie publicly, that the Trump Organization seemed to change its internal documents, reducing the square footage to 10,996.

    Weisselberg was demoted from his role as CFO after he was criminally charged in a separate tax case in 2021. He remained with the Trump Organization until January, when he was sentenced to five months in jail as the result of the other case, which also implicated the Trump Organization. Weisselberg signed a separation agreement with the firm that month, which promises to pay him $2 million over two years, if he complies with his obligations under the agreement.

    An attorney for Weisselberg did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Weisselberg is expected to retake the stand in the attorney general’s case to continue his testimony in the coming days.

    Fortunately for Weisselberg, lying under oath is merely a "process" crime.

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