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2024 U.S. Election of President and Vice President
Someone I should have thought of immediately: Tulsi Gabbard. She's had a pro-Trump, pro-Russia/anti-Ukraine bent for quite some time now. Trump will no doubt love to nab a former Democrat as his running mate.
She also doesn't have the baggage of Greene
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
Either works a deal out with DeSantis for him to be his VP and creates the dream ticket for Trumpland and then opens the path for a DeSantis 2028 run, or DeSantis turns it down and he picks someone like Greene who essentially just travels the country as Trump’s presidential booster club and performs no other tasks.
Either works a deal out with DeSantis for him to be his VP and creates the dream ticket for Trumpland and then opens the path for a DeSantis 2028 run, or DeSantis turns it down and he picks someone like Greene who essentially just travels the country as Trump’s presidential booster club and performs no other tasks.
Not happening. Trump won't be making a deal of any kind with DeSantis as regards the presidency.
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
Either works a deal out with DeSantis for him to be his VP and creates the dream ticket for Trumpland and then opens the path for a DeSantis 2028 run, or DeSantis turns it down and he picks someone like Greene who essentially just travels the country as Trump’s presidential booster club and performs no other tasks.
TH is right. In fact, I believe, because of their ambitions they will become mortal enemies should DeSatan run. That contest would light up the sky far more than the largest wildfire in California.
TH is right. In fact, I believe, because of their ambitions they will become mortal enemies should DeSatan run. That contest would light up the sky far more than the largest wildfire in California.
"Did you ever see an animal with two heads?
They do not live."
I don't think DeSantis wants to put himself on a collision course with Trump. Not yet.
Trump commands the admiration and loyalty of nearly the entire conservative spectrum. DeSantis knows he can't compete with that cult of personality. Not yet.
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
Not happening. Trump won't be making a deal of any kind with DeSantis as regards the presidency.
Ehhh I can see them working something out. They still need to plan out who will carry the Trump torch when he is gone and the last thing Republicans will want is a shattered party going into 2024. Obviously I wouldn’t put it past them to do exactly that but DeSantis isn’t dumb and the ‘dream team’ ticket of Trump-DeSantis 2024 might be a good consolation prize for DeSantis to line his eyes on 2028 where he should run essentially unopposed as Trump’s guy.
Ehhh I can see them working something out. They still need to plan out who will carry the Trump torch when he is gone and the last thing Republicans will want is a shattered party going into 2024. Obviously I wouldn’t put it past them to do exactly that but DeSantis isn’t dumb and the ‘dream team’ ticket of Trump-DeSantis 2024 might be a good consolation prize for DeSantis to line his eyes on 2028 where he should run essentially unopposed as Trump’s guy.
Trust me, not happening. As it is right now, they're about 3 or 4 steps away from total war with each other.
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
In case you may have wanted to watch something scary on All Hallows’ Eve, this should do the trick.
Originally posted by BBC_News
31 Ocober 2022 Trump: The Comeback?
(47 min, 24 sec)
Could Donald Trump return to the White House? He keeps hinting that he is about to attempt one of the biggest political comebacks of all time, so could it really happen? Katty Kay has reported from the US for 20 years, and now she sets off on an epic road trip across the US on the eve of the midterm elections to discover how strong support for Trump still is. Can American democracy weather the storm if he runs again?
NEW YORK (AP) — As he played to a crowd of supporters in Robstown, Texas, former President Donald Trump drew cheers as he talked up his first two runs for the White House — and teased a third.
“In order to make our country successful, safe and glorious again, I will probably have to do it again,” he said last month.
That carefully placed “probably” may soon be gone from Trump’s stump speech. Aides to the former president are making quiet preparations for a 2024 presidential campaign that could be launched soon after next week’s midterm elections as Trump tries to capitalize on expected Republican wins to propel himself toward becoming the front-runner for his party’s nomination.
“I’m like 95% he’s going to run,” said Reince Priebus, Trump’s former White House chief of staff. “The real question,” he added, “is are other big challengers going to run? If President Trump runs, he will be very difficult for any Republican to defeat.”
But Trump, according to people close to him, is eager to be back in the political game. While he has been talking up a bid since before he left the White House, aides and allies are now eyeing the two-week stretch after the Nov. 8 midterms as a possible window for an announcement, though they caution that he hasn't made a decision and that — as always when it comes to Trump — things could change, particularly if the election results are delayed due to recounts or a possible runoff election in Georgia.
Indeed, even as discussions are underway about potential venues and dates for a formal announcement, Trump continues to tease the possibility of declaring his intentions at one of the rallies he's planned for the election's homestretch.
The preparations come as Trump has been stepping up his efforts to help midterm candidates in the election’s final weeks, hoping to piggyback off expected Republican gains in Congress to build momentum for his own campaign.
Trump has dramatically ramped up his spending after facing criticism for failing to financially help his favored candidates while continuing to vacuum up small-dollar donations. His newly launched MAGA Inc. super PAC has now spent more than $16.4 million on ads in a handful of competitive states, according to the ad tracking firm AdImpact, with additional investments expected through Election Day, according to people familiar with the effort, who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal operations.
And Trump continues to hold events to bolster his candidates, with 30 rallies so far in 17 states, along with dozens of virtual rallies and more than 50 candidate fundraisers. His final midterm rally blitz will take him to Ohio and Pennsylvania, two crucial presidential voting states where his endorsements helped candidates secure their nominations. He'll also return to Iowa, which holds the first contest of the presidential nominating calendar.
In total, Trump’s Save America PAC says he has raised nearly $350 million this election cycle for Republican candidates and party committees, including online fundraising solicitations.
While Trump’s team has been identifying potential staff prospects in key states and drawing up paperwork to file should he move forward with an announcement, according to people familiar with the planning, one stressed that hiring has not yet commenced. Trump's campaign, at least in its early months, is expected to remain headquartered in Florida and look much like his current political operation, overseen by the small clutch of advisers he’s fostered since leaving office — reminiscent of his famously threadbare 2016 campaign.
Chris LaCivita, the Republican strategist who was behind the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” campaign that badly damaged Democrat John Kerry's 2004 presidential prospects, is working for Trump’s super PAC and expected to take on a senior leadership role in the campaign operation, according to people familiar with the conversations, as is Susie Wiles, the longtime Florida operative who has been overseeing his political efforts.
The 2024 campaign will effectively kick off when the polls close on Nov. 8, and potential challengers have spent months carefully laying the groundwork for their own expected campaigns. That includes Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is widely seen as Trump’s most formidable challenger and who has been cultivating a deep donor network as he runs for reelection.
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Florida Sen. Rick Scott and Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton have been aggressively stumping for midterm candidates, as have former Vice President Mike Pence, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley.
Trump, meanwhile, faces mounting challenges. He remains a deeply polarizing figure, particularly after spending the last two years spreading lies about the 2020 election. And while Trump remains overwhelmingly popular among Republicans, an October AP-NORC poll found 43% said they don’t want to see him run for president in 2024.
Underscoring that polarization, many in Trump’s orbit had urged him to wait on an announcement until after the midterms to avoid turning the election into a referendum on him.
Others close to Trump remain skeptical that he will ultimately go through with another run, contending that his ego can't take another loss or fearing a possible indictment. Others question whether he will ultimately end up on the ballot in 2024, even if he does launch a campaign.
Campaigns also need staff and Trump's orbit has shrunk considerably over the last two years. Many former aides are expected to steer clear of another effort either because they have broken with Trump, have moved on, or are fearful that involvement could expose them to potential legal scrutiny — and lawyers’ bills.
For someone on the verge of launching a presidential campaign, Trump also remains unusually distracted by legal threats.
There is the Justice Department's intensifying investigation into how hundreds of documents with classified markings ended up at his club in Palm Beach, Florida. State prosecutors in Georgia continue to probe his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, as do the DOJ and the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol attack, which recently served him a subpoena demanding testimony.
In New York, Attorney General Letitia James has sued Trump, alleging his namesake company engaged in decades of fraudulent bookkeeping. The Trump Organization is now on trial for criminal tax fraud charges, and Trump recently sat for a deposition in a lawsuit filed by E. Jean Carroll, who alleges Trump raped her in the mid-1990s. Trump denies the allegations.
All the while, Republicans across the country, from high-dollar donors to longtime GOP leaders and rank-and-file voters, have been considering whether they want to stick with Trump.
At a recent Iowa Republican Party fundraiser headlined by Pence, voters praised Trump's time in office but were mixed on whether they want him to mount another campaign.
“I’d like to see him run again,” said 81-year-old Jane Murphy, a longtime county Republican volunteer who lives in Davenport. "He makes me angry with some of the things he says. But he gets the job done, plain and simple.”
But Carol Crain, an eastern Iowa GOP activist, voiced reservations.
“I think a lot of Republicans are just tired of the drama and the fighting,” said Crain, 73. “It’s really wearing. Under their breath, people say it would be nice if he could endorse somebody and go away with grace.”
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“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
I;d like to see him run again; said 81-year-old Jane Murphy, a longtime county Republican volunteer who lives in Davenport. "He makes me angry with some of the things he says. But he gets the job done, plain and simple.
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Can anyone, anyone, tell me what job he gets done?
Can anyone, anyone, tell me what job he gets done?
"Owning the libz"
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
Trust me, not happening. As it is right now, they're about 3 or 4 steps away from total war with each other.
In his standup comedy routine, Trump was referring to DeSantis as "Ron DeSanctimonious", and was floating the idea of appointing Ted Cruz to the US Supreme Court (jester?).
Originally posted by Forbes
06 November 2022 Trump Mocks DeSantis During Rally: 'Ron DeSanctimonious'
At his rally in Pennsylvania, former President Trump mocked Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL).
Former President Donald Trump mocked Ron DeSantis at his Saturday night rally—calling the Florida governor “Ron DeSanctimonious.”
And hours later, Trump found himself in hot water with fellow conservatives who weren’t pleased that he’d taken aim at the increasingly popular DeSantis.
“There it is, Trump at 71. Ron DeSanctimonious at 10 percent,” Trump said. “Mike Pence at 7–oh, Mike Pence doing better than I thought.” (It’s the first time Trump’s tried out the nickname, but longtime ally Roger Stone—a fierce DeSantis critic—posted the dig about a week ago.)
The reactions to the Trump name-calling weren’t favorable in conservative circles.
“Calling it now, DeSantis is going to run, and he’s going to beat Trump badly,” Will Chamberlain, the publisher of Human Events and a right-wing lawyer, said in response to the Trump jab. “This is just weak.”
Right-wing Daily Wire pundit Matt Walsh also expressed frustration at Trump over the “dumb nickname.”
“Trump isn’t going to be able to take this one [DeSantis] down with a dumb nickname. He better have more than that up his sleeve,” he wrote. “Also, nice job launching your public attack against the most popular conservative governor in America three days before the midterms when we’re all supposed to be showing a united front.”
It didn’t end there.
RedState editor Jennifer Van Laar commented, “Enough, Trump. Stop. Move on,” while a Townhall writer asked what DeSantis has “done to earn Trump’s scorn here right before an election?” “It’s inexcusable and just shows this has always been about him,” the writer added.
“What an idiot,” Rod Dreher, an editor at the right-wing website, The American Conservative, tweeted. “DeSantis is a far more effective leader of the Right than Trump was, if, that is, you expect a leader to get a lot done, rather than just talking about it and owning the libs.”
Congressman Chip Roy (R-TX) sided with DeSantis, too, writing: “Or… Ron De…SaidNoToFauci… that’s another angle.”
“Trump’s attacks on DeSantis are going to have a boomerang effect. Almost all Trump supporters are big fans of the Florida governor and agree with his policies and approach in running Florida,” Fox News contributor Joe Concha said. “This comes just 3 days before an election and reflects poorly on the former president.”
Even vigorous Trump defender and former Federalist co-founder Ben Domenech said the new Trump nickname needed some workshopping.
A Trump spokesperson didn’t return The Daily Beast’s request for comment on Saturday night.
The Daily Beast previously reported that Trump intends to hit DeSantis and isn’t backing down anytime soon.
“Trump’s going to end up doing to DeSantis and his wife what he did to Cruz and his wife,” a Trump adviser told The Daily Beast.
DeSantis and Trump plan to be in Florida on Sunday and hold competing rallies over 240 miles apart.
“Trump is going to try to destroy him,” an adviser said.
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" a Townhall writer asked what DeSantis has “done to earn Trump’s scorn here right before an election?”"
He got popular. Like any egomaniacal autocrat, Trump can't handle that possibility. There's only room for one autocrat in an autocracy.
Also, the idea that Trump is going to somehow take a meaningful hit for his usual childish insults of DeSantis are fanciful. It's not going to hurt Trump at all...and he knows it.
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
Might not be the place for it, in fact this news piece might deserve its own thread but here goes.
From ABC News. Yevgeny Prigozhin admits meddling in US elections. In a speech Prigozhin stated in part that "Gentlemen, we have interfered, are interfering and will interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." As far as I am aware this is the first public admission by a senior figure close to Putin that Russia has in fact attempted to interfere in US elections.
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