2024 U.S. Election of President and Vice President

[Chunder]

Kinda all a moot point now.

The public is probably not so interested in Trump victory as it is in punishing the collective cover up of Biden's fitness for office, their responses to questions about it and so on.

I've come to the conclusion that at least with Biden's unfitness for office there's somewhat reasonable advisors calling the shots, whereas you know with Trump it's him calling the shots which is an order of magnitude more scary. Biden shouldn't be in any HoS only meeting by himself though.

The DNC had 4 years to fix itself after Hillary's defeat, it's now had 7. Instead whatever has been happening inside of it has been nest feathering. It's demonstrated its incapable of reform, ergo it's as responsible for Trump as people voting for him.

[Amled]

One of our TV stations over here has a regular program covering the political turmoil in the US.
Today it was regarding who in the Democratic Party would have a chance to contest with Trump if; yes a big if, Biden steps back! They ran a poll taken in the US of the leading contenders. It showed that none of the leaders scored above the mid 40’s%! The only name that came over 50% was…Michelle Obama. Yes, they also reiterated what Top said, that she has repeatedly said she is not in the running.
I don’t know what kind’ a crap she and her family were subjected to when her husband was president. But it will be as nothing, compared to what will heaped on her if Trump takes the White House in November. When the Dems; and others, will be looking for a scapegoat to blame for his victory.

[TopHatter]

Nothing new there, he’s even admitted it loud and clear to an open mike!
Go back to; I think it was the Bush interview, where he bragged that he could walk down 5^th. Ave in New York, and shoot someone without any repercussions to him!
Well now he has a USSC decisions that backs his braggadocio up!
His ego was almost incomprehensible before, one can only imagine it now.

It was Trump, not Bush. Not even Obama had such a blindly-obedient cult at his beck and call such as this.

And at this point, Trump could shoot a dog, a veteran and get caught with a live boy and a dead girl on Fifth Avenue and not lose a voter.

[TopHatter]

Kinda all a moot point now.

The public is probably not so interested in Trump victory as it is in punishing the collective cover up of Biden's fitness for office, their responses to questions about it and so on.

I've come to the conclusion that at least with Biden's unfitness for office there's somewhat reasonable advisors calling the shots, whereas you know with Trump it's him calling the shots which is an order of magnitude more scary. Biden shouldn't be in any HoS only meeting by himself though.

The DNC had 4 years to fix itself after Hillary's defeat, it's now had 7. Instead whatever has been happening inside of it has been nest feathering. It's demonstrated its incapable of reform, ergo it's as responsible for Trump as people voting for him.

That's goddamn right. Every last fucking word.

[Versus]

Tops, look at this
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/only-mic...ive-biden-2024
Told you that she will emerge. Just watch how things unfold...

[TopHatter]

Tops, look at this
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/only-mic...ive-biden-2024

Versus, I've never doubted her popularity. What I've said, and will continue to say, is that she won't run for president and she'll resist all attempts to "draft" her.

Told you that she will emerge. Just watch how things unfold...

She hasn't emerged. Her fans have.

The only thing that's going to unfold are one of three outcomes:

1. Biden continues his campaign and either wins or loses in November
2. Biden is physically unable to continue his campaign sometime prior to November and the Dems scramble for a new candidate, which will not be Michelle Obama
3. Biden voluntarily steps aside and things play out as noted above^^

Forget about Michelle Obama. It's not happening any more than Liz Cheney as the Dem candidate.

[Versus]

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Tops, look at this
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/only-mic...ive-biden-2024

Versus, I've never doubted her popularity. What I've said, and will continue to say, is that she won't run for president and she'll resist all attempts to "draft" her.


She hasn't emerged. Her fans have.

The only thing that's going to unfold are one of three outcomes:

1. Biden continues his campaign and either wins or loses in November
2. Biden is physically unable to continue his campaign sometime prior to November and the Dems scramble for a new candidate, which will not be Michelle Obama
3. Biden voluntarily steps aside and things play out as noted above^^

Forget about Michelle Obama. It's not happening any more than Liz Cheney as the Dem candidate.

So...Kamala? That would be an utter suicide.

[TopHatter]

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So...Kamala? That would be an utter suicide.

Maybe, maybe not. Harris running closer to Trump than Biden in new CNN poll

I have no idea to be honest and it's a long way until November in any case. Hell, Trump could stroke out tomorrow.

[TopHatter]

And then puzzling stuff like this happens

Biden moves into tie with Trump in new survey

[Versus]

What about Gavin? Super dangerous but surely far more competent.

[TopHatter]

What about Gavin? Super dangerous but surely far more competent.

What, this?

As far as Newsome is concerned, my wild-ass guess is that he's better positioned for a 2028 run.

[tbm3fan]

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Maybe, maybe not. Harris running closer to Trump than Biden in new CNN poll

.Hell, Trump could stroke out tomorrow.

I've never been a praying man, but I could make an exception. Oh hell, why not...

[TopHatter]

I've never been a praying man, but I could make an exception. Oh hell, why not...

I keep telling myself that anything can happen between now and November...but I also know that could work either way.

[TopHatter]

Michael Steele ridicules Trump for post disowning Project 2025

Former Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele criticized former President Trump’s attempt to distance himself from the conservative governing plan known as Project 2025 on Friday.

“Ok, let’s all play with Stupid for minute… so exactly how do you ‘disagree’ with something you ‘know nothing about’ or ‘have no idea’ who is behind, saying or doing the thing you disagree with?” Steele wrote on the social platform X.

“Since #Project2025 is designed to institutionalize Trumpism and you know nothing about it, so why do you echo some of its policy priorities during your rallies? Coincidence?” he said, adding later, “And folks say we should be worried about [President] Biden.”

The former president took to Truth Social earlier Friday to disavow the project, calling some of the objectives “absolutely ridiculous and abysmal.” Trump also claimed he knew “nothing about Project 2025,” and that he did not know who was behind it, but he wished them luck.

“I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it,” the presumptive GOP nominee for the White House wrote. “I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal.”

Steele rebuked Trump’s claim, highlighting the project’s links to high-ranking members of the Trump administration, including the project’s director, Paul Dans, who once served as chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management, and its associate director, Spencer Chretien, Trump’s former special assistant.

Project 2025 is a 900-page outline of conservative priorities created by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, should a Republican win the White House. The list includes five main topics — “Taking the Reins of Government,” “The Common Defense,” “The General Welfare,” “The Economy” and “Independent Regulatory Agencies” — and makes a wide range of policy proposals.

Among the agenda’s priorities is reimplementing Schedule F, which would reclassify federal workers to make it easier to fire and replace them with partisan loyalists. The Associated Press reported this could affect 50,000 workers.

Steele has largely turned away from the GOP following Trump’s first term in office. In 2020, he joined the Lincoln Project PAC and endorsed Biden for president.

He was not alone in calling Trump’s statement hypocritical.

The Biden-Harris campaign took to X shortly after the former president posted, calling him “desperate and lying.” The team also shared a video of Trump speaking at a Heritage Foundation event asking for the group’s support — but it is unclear when the video was taken.

Project 2025 released a statement on X bolstering Trump’s remarks.

“As we’ve been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign,” the post reads. “We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy & personnel recommendations for the next conservative president.”

“But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement,” the project leaders added.
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Guess we can add this to the long list of things that Trump "knows nothing about".

What a fucking coward.

[tbm3fan]

I keep telling myself that anything can happen between now and November...but I also know that could work either way.

Yeah, so true. In the meantime I wish that the Democrats could act like Republicans is one aspect and one only. Republicans are all aligned behind their one guy. Meanwhile the Democrats are shitting in their pants, all over media, about Biden now. Does this help their case? No. Instead of acting like cockroaches scattering every which way when the lights go on they need to act with one voice. The Republicans act with one voice and meanwhile the Democrats can't shut up their damn mouths for once and speak in a unified tone.