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He has now set up the basis for extermination which some will firmly believe is the solution...
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostTrump says some undocumented immigrants are ‘not people,’ warns US will see ‘blood bath’ if not reelected
Former President Trump denounced some undocumented immigrants as “not people” and warned of a “blood bath” if he is not reelected at a chaotic rally in Ohio on Saturday night.
Trump spoke in a Dayton, Ohio, suburb on Saturday to campaign for Senate candidate Bernie Moreno, who faces a neck and neck primary against state Sen. Matt Dolan and Secretary of State Frank LaRose on Tuesday.
The former president’s comments about migrants accused of crimes come as immigration remains a critical issue for the 2024 election.
“I don’t know if you call them people,” he said at the rally. “In some cases they’re not people, in my opinion. But I’m not allowed to say that because the radical left says that’s a terrible thing to say.”
Trump also predicted a dire scene if he loses the November election, claiming Biden would tank the U.S. economy.
“If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a blood bath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a blood bath for the country,” Trump said while discussing his proposal for steep tariffs on vehicle imports.
The Biden campaign denounced the comments as part of Trump’s “threats of political violence.”
“He wants another January 6, but the American people are going to give him another electoral defeat this November because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and his thirst for revenge,” campaign spokesperson James Singer said in a statement.
Trump’s comments Saturday echo his previous use of pejorative language against immigrants, which began at the launch of his 2016 presidential campaign, where he called Mexicans “rapists,” and recently when he said migrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”
The latter comment drew comparisons to similar phrases in Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf,” a comparison Trump has denied and denounced.
The three-person race for the Republican Ohio Senate nomination is expected to go down to the wire, with recent polls showing either Moreno or Dolan in the lead.
Moreno has gained the backing of Trump and his allies, while Dolan is backed by more moderate political forces in the Buckeye State, including Gov. Mike DeWine (R) and former Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio).
General election polls have shown Dolan as the stronger candidate against Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who faces a difficult campaign for a critical seat in Democrats’ efforts to keep their razor-thin Senate majority.
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They've gone from "animals" to "vermin" to "not really people".
The "radical left" says it's a terrible thing to say that certain people are "not really people". Yeah. The 'radical left' says that, not anyone with an ounce of humanity.
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Trump says some undocumented immigrants are ‘not people,’ warns US will see ‘blood bath’ if not reelected
Former President Trump denounced some undocumented immigrants as “not people” and warned of a “blood bath” if he is not reelected at a chaotic rally in Ohio on Saturday night.
Trump spoke in a Dayton, Ohio, suburb on Saturday to campaign for Senate candidate Bernie Moreno, who faces a neck and neck primary against state Sen. Matt Dolan and Secretary of State Frank LaRose on Tuesday.
The former president’s comments about migrants accused of crimes come as immigration remains a critical issue for the 2024 election.
“I don’t know if you call them people,” he said at the rally. “In some cases they’re not people, in my opinion. But I’m not allowed to say that because the radical left says that’s a terrible thing to say.”
Trump also predicted a dire scene if he loses the November election, claiming Biden would tank the U.S. economy.
“If I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a blood bath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a blood bath for the country,” Trump said while discussing his proposal for steep tariffs on vehicle imports.
The Biden campaign denounced the comments as part of Trump’s “threats of political violence.”
“He wants another January 6, but the American people are going to give him another electoral defeat this November because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and his thirst for revenge,” campaign spokesperson James Singer said in a statement.
Trump’s comments Saturday echo his previous use of pejorative language against immigrants, which began at the launch of his 2016 presidential campaign, where he called Mexicans “rapists,” and recently when he said migrants are “poisoning the blood of our country.”
The latter comment drew comparisons to similar phrases in Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf,” a comparison Trump has denied and denounced.
The three-person race for the Republican Ohio Senate nomination is expected to go down to the wire, with recent polls showing either Moreno or Dolan in the lead.
Moreno has gained the backing of Trump and his allies, while Dolan is backed by more moderate political forces in the Buckeye State, including Gov. Mike DeWine (R) and former Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio).
General election polls have shown Dolan as the stronger candidate against Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who faces a difficult campaign for a critical seat in Democrats’ efforts to keep their razor-thin Senate majority.
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They've gone from "animals" to "vermin" to "not really people".
The "radical left" says it's a terrible thing to say that certain people are "not really people". Yeah. The 'radical left' says that, not anyone with an ounce of humanity.
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Originally posted by Albany Rifles View PostIt is 2024. With the reach of social media and media in general how did either one think they could put out this "information" and not know the truth would come out!?!?!?
ANd in a year where the GOP wants to bring suburban women into their fold the SOTU rebuttal set in a kitchen was just such a bad idea!
https://www.thenation.com/article/po...e-republicans/
Back To The Kitchen Where You Belong Sweetie!
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It is 2024. With the reach of social media and media in general how did either one think they could put out this "information" and not know the truth would come out!?!?!?
ANd in a year where the GOP wants to bring suburban women into their fold the SOTU rebuttal set in a kitchen was just such a bad idea!
https://www.thenation.com/article/po...e-republicans/
It Was a Terrible Weekend for 2 Female GOP “Stars”
The Katie Britt-Nancy Mace mess showed just how hard it is to be a woman of integrity in today’s GOP.
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Alabama Senator Katie Britt at a hearing on January 11, 2024.(Tom Williams / CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)
South Carolina Representative Nancy Mace first came to national attention in 2019, when she opposed a state abortion ban that lacked exceptions for rape and incest, revealing that she had been raped at 16. “For some of us who have been raped, it can take 25 years to get up the courage and talk about being a victim of rape,” said Mace, then a state legislator. “My mother and my best friend in high school were the only two people who knew.”
But there she was on Sunday morning, attacking ABC’s This Week host George Stephanoupolos for asking her how, given her own experience, she could support disgraced former president Donald Trump, found liable in a civil trial for sexually assaulting writer E. Jean Carroll in a department store dressing room in the late 1990s, and for defaming her after she revealed the attack (almost 25 years later, as it happens).
Another Republican leader, Alabama Senator Katie Britt, had to be grateful to Mace for deflecting at least a little bit of the spotlight away from her shameful State of the Union rebuttal Thursday night. Britt’s bizarre “trad wife” address, from her roomy but weirdly empty kitchen, was widely panned in real time. But her troubles got worse on Friday, when independent journalist Jonathan Katz revealed that Britt used a story to blast President Joe Biden’s southern border policies that grossly misrepresented the details of a sex trafficking scandal.
“When I first took office, I traveled to the Del Rio sector of Texas, where I spoke to a woman who shared her story with me. She had been sex trafficked by the cartels starting at age 12,” adding, “President Biden’s border crisis is a disgrace. It’s despicable. And it’s almost entirely preventable.” Jacinto said she was kept in captivity from 2004 to 2008, when President George W, Bush was in office.
The advocate for sex trafficking victims blasted Britt’s use of her story as “not fair.”
Amazingly, Britt tried to hang on to her tale on Sunday, insisting that she never actually said the woman was trafficked under Biden and claiming the liberal media is ignoring the wider problem of trafficking by drug cartels. “To me it is disgusting to try to silence the voice of someone who is trying to tell what it’s like to be sex trafficked.”
Mace was just as brazen. “As a rape victim who’s been shamed for years now because of her rape, you’re trying to shame me again,” she told Stephanoupolos. When the host calmly pushed back, she came at him again: “I’m not going to sit here on your show and be asked a question meant to shame me about another potential rape victim. I’m not going to do that.” She said Trump was found guilty in a civil, not criminal trial, and criticized Carroll for joking about what she would do with the $91 million Trump must pay her in damages.
Stephanoupolos tried again: “You don’t find it offensive that Donald Trump has been found liable for rape?”
“I find it offensive that as a rape victim you’re trying to shame me for my political choices and I’ve said again, repeatedly, E. Jean Carroll has made a mockery out of rape by joking about it.”
Then she took to the site formerly known as Twitter to lambaste the ABC host for working for Bill Clinton during the former president’s own sex scandal (actually, he’d left the White House two years earlier). Her 20-plus Tweet tirade just lent credibility to reports that Mace is a volatile personality who’s had among the highest staff turnover in Congress (her former chief of staff is mounting a primary campaign against her.)
(E. Jean Carroll won the weekend with a gracious Tweet about the mess. “I wish Representative @RepNancyMace well. And I salute all survivors for their strength, endurance, and holding on to their sanity.”)
The Britt-Mace mess showed just how hard it is to be a woman of integrity in today’s GOP. The party is run by a man found liable of sexual assault (and credibly abused of sexual abuse by at least a dozen other women). The three judges Trump appointed to the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and left women at the mercy of red state legislatures, writing laws so byzantine that even when they include exceptions for rape, incest or the life of the mother, they’re written so poorly that doctors are afraid to perform the procedure anyway. Mace’s 2019 bravery was wasted, and so she’s caved: She still occasionally makes noise about rape exemptions to abortion bans, but she’s cast her lot with a party that couldn’t care less.
Britt is arguably worse. She offered no evidence to blame Biden for an increase in sex trafficking (and I wouldn’t trust her numbers anyway; experts say there are conflicting data about whether the problem is genuinely on the rise). In fact, her bizarre rant reminded me a little of the Trump-adjacent Q-Anon theory that Democrats are pedophiles and sex traffickers.
She got the SOTU rebuttal nod to help the GOP with their women-voter problems. She sat in that lovely kitchen—“women love kitchens!”—in a fetching green dress with a crucifix at her neck.
But sometimes it seemed like she was going for male voters, too: On Saturday Night Live, Scarlett Johannson hilariously captured her weird tonal shifts between school-girl and coquette. “Now, I’m gonna get weirdly seductive for no apparent reason,” she spoofed.
But the worst of it was Britt’s big Biden lie. Even some Republicans mocked her SOTU response, but what did they really expect, pushing a first-term, little-known senator into a spotlight that’s mainly been a place for rising GOP stars to fail? The meltdowns of Britt and Mace almost made me miss Nikki Haley, who dropped out of the presidential primary race last week. At least she was (eventually) able to criticize Trump over the verdict in the Carroll trial. Sadly, I won’t be surprised if she endorses him anyway. It’s Trump’s party, and women who sign up for it are signing up for four more years of misogyny, cruel abortion bans, and regular mockery of sexual assault victims (he did it to Carroll again this weekend). I doubt that the performances of Mace and Britt pulled any suburban swing voters behind Trump.
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Originally posted by Ironduke View PostMusk is a national security threat. Deport his ass back to Africa. IMO he should be forced to liquidate any stake or control over any company that has contracts with the DoD, NASA, etc., by suspending/canceling any contracts while he has any sort of executive control or controlling stake in StarLink or SpaceX. This guy is more of a grifter than an innovator in my opinion. The success and viability of all his companies is essentially dependent on tax rebates, tax credits, government contracts for things like electric cars, solar panels, defense/space capabilities. The one purely private venture he controls, X/Twitter, is a flaming dumpster fire.
Working StarLink terminals being used by the Russian military? Yeah, fuck that guy.
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Originally posted by Ironduke View PostYou don't think he'd be forced to divest if the government started suspending contracts with him on the basis he's a national security liability? SpaceX can continue to exist without his ownership/control.
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You don't think he'd be forced to divest if the government started suspending contracts with him on the basis he's a national security liability? SpaceX can continue to exist without his ownership/control.
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Originally posted by Ironduke View PostMusk is a national security threat. Deport his ass back to Africa. IMO he should be forced to liquidate any stake or control over any company that has contracts with the DoD, NASA, etc., by suspending/canceling any contracts while he has any sort of executive control or controlling stake in StarLink or SpaceX. This guy is more of a grifter than an innovator in my opinion. The success and viability of all his companies is essentially dependent on tax rebates, tax credits, government contracts for things like electric cars, solar panels, defense/space capabilities. The one purely private venture he controls, X/Twitter, is a flaming dumpster fire.
Working StarLink terminals being used by the Russian military? Yeah, fuck that guy.
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Musk is a national security threat. Deport his ass back to Africa. IMO he should be forced to liquidate any stake or control over any company that has contracts with the DoD, NASA, etc., by suspending/canceling any contracts while he has any sort of executive control or controlling stake in StarLink or SpaceX. This guy is more of a grifter than an innovator in my opinion. The success and viability of all his companies is essentially dependent on tax rebates, tax credits, government contracts for things like electric cars, solar panels, defense/space capabilities. The one purely private venture he controls, X/Twitter, is a flaming dumpster fire.
Working StarLink terminals being used by the Russian military? Yeah, fuck that guy.
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Trump reaching out to Elon Musk to bail out his campaign.
The autocrat asking the oligarch for his money.
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The US is bracing for complex, fast-moving threats to elections this year, FBI director warns
McLEAN, VA. (AP) — The United States expects to face fast-moving threats to American elections this year as artificial intelligence and other technological advances have made interference and meddling easier than before, FBI Director Christopher Wray said Thursday.
“The U.S. has confronted foreign malign influence threats in the past,” Wray told a national security conference. “But this election cycle, the U.S. will face more adversaries, moving at a faster pace, and enabled by new technology.”
Wray singled out advances in generative AI, which he said had made it “easier for both more and less-sophisticated foreign adversaries to engage in malign influence.”
The remarks underscored escalating U.S. government concerns over sometimes hard-to-detect influence operations that are designed to shape public opinion. Though officials have not cited successful efforts by foreign governments to directly alter election results, they have sounded the alarms over the past decade about foreign influence campaigns.
Wray suggested the FBI would share information this year about threats that it sees.
“As intelligence professionals, we’ve got to highlight threats in specific, evidence-based ways so that we’re usefully arming our partners and, in particular, the public against the kinds of foreign influence operations they’re likely to confront,” he said.
In 2016, Russian operatives sought to boost Republican Donald Trump’s election chances by stealing and leaking Democratic emails and by using a hidden but powerful social media campaign to sow discord among American voters.
In 2020, U.S. intelligence officials have said, Russian President Vladimir Putin authorized influence operations to denigrate Democrat Joe Biden and help Trump in that year’s election. China “considered but did not deploy” influence operations, while aggressive efforts by Iran sought to exploit vulnerabilities in state election websites as Tehran sought to hurt Trump’s reelection chances, officials have said.
Despite those threats, according to intelligence officials, there was ultimately no evidence that any foreign entity changed votes or otherwise disrupted the voting process.
In some instances, emerging technology has been used closer to home.
For instance, a political consultant confirmed this week that he had paid a New Orleans street magician to create a robocall that mimicked Biden’s voice, though the consultant said he was trying to send a wake-up call about the potential malign uses of artificial intelligence, not influence the outcome of last month’s New Hampshire primary.
The possible specter of renewed foreign interference resurfaced again this month when the Justice Department charged an FBI informant with giving false allegations about purported Biden family corruption.
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Trump is disqualified from Illinois ballot, judge rules
Trump participates in a Fox News town hall with Laura Ingraham in Greenville
(Reuters) -An Illinois state judge on Wednesday barred Donald Trump from appearing on the Illinois' Republican presidential primary ballot because of his role in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but she delayed her ruling from taking effect in light of an expected appeal by the former U.S. president.
Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter sided with Illinois voters who argued that the former president should be disqualified from the state's March 19 primary ballot and its Nov. 5 general election ballot for violating the anti-insurrection clause of the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.
The final outcome of the Illinois case and similar challenges will likely be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court, which heard arguments related to Trump's ballot eligibility on Feb. 8.
Porter said she was staying her decision because she expected his appeal to Illinois' appellate courts, and a potential ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court.
The advocacy group Free Speech For People, which spearheaded the Illinois disqualification effort, praised the ruling as a "historic victory" in a statement.
A campaign spokesperson for Trump, the national frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination, said in a statement this "is an unconstitutional ruling that we will quickly appeal."
Colorado and Maine earlier removed Trump from their state ballots after determining he is disqualified under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Both decisions are on hold while Trump appeals.
Section 3 bars from public office anyone who took an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and then has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Trump supporters on Jan. 6, 2021, attacked police and swarmed the Capitol in a bid to prevent Congress from certifying Democrat Joe Biden's 2020 election victory. Trump gave an incendiary speech to supporters beforehand, telling them to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell." He then for hours did not act on requests that he urge the mob to stop.
The Supreme Court is currently weighing Trump's challenge to his Colorado disqualification. The justices in Washington appeared skeptical of the decision during oral arguments in the case, expressing concerns about states taking sweeping actions that could affect the national election.
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The 2020 election took days to call. Could it happen again this year?
While many states have made it easier to count mail ballots faster in recent years, several critical swing states may still keep America waiting well beyond Election Day.
Election workers count absentee ballots into the early morning Nov. 4, 2020, in Milwaukee.
After the 2020 presidential election took days to call, many states reworked how they process mail ballots with the goal of delivering results faster — and cutting off oxygen for conspiracy theories that flourished as the country waited for results.
Election officials are optimistic that the 2024 vote count will be smoother without the many challenges the pandemic election of 2020 posed to officials. But in the event of a close race, a handful of key battleground states could keep American waiting well beyond Election Day yet again to learn who will be president for the following four years.
Clerks in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — two of the most closely divided states in the 2020 election — still will not be able to process any mail ballots prior to Election Day, despite efforts of state lawmakers to change the rules. That means there could again be a massive pileup of absentee ballots to sort through in those states Nov. 5, along with the in-person vote.
And in North Carolina, a battleground state that has leaned Republican at the presidential level, changes to the state’s voter ID law and early voting process could slow the count.
While longer waits for results are not a sign of problems, experts warn they can be spun that way — as Donald Trump and his allies did in 2020.
“We could have a situation where we just have a couple of bottlenecks,” said Rachel Orey, senior associate director for the Bipartisan Policy Center’s Elections Project. “That creates huge risk for the spread of mis- and disinformation when you have a couple of states in the spotlight, and you have candidates saying — well, we have results from all these other states. Why are you taking so long? There must be something wrong.”
“Ultimately, the responsibility comes down to the candidates,” Orey added. “But that’s easier said than done.”
In Wisconsin, lawmakers again blocked changes to ballot counting processes earlier this month, with the Republican-controlled state Senate holding up a bill that would have allowed election officials to start reviewing mail ballots before Election Day.
Election workers have begged for the change for years, in hopes of speeding up ballot counting — particularly in the densely populated and heavily Democratic Madison and Milwaukee, where Trump allies portrayed slow counting of mail ballots as a sign of fraud in 2020.
“From a perception point of view, it would help a lot,” Dane County Clerk Scott McDonell, the top elections official in Wisconsin’s second most populous county, which includes Madison, said referring to the bill. “There’s no reason to wait” to begin processing the ballots.
“You wouldn’t have absentee results coming in late at night. It takes pressure off 20-hour days, you can get a jump on it. It would be a real improvement to do that,” McDonnell, a Democrat, said.
While Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, and the state’s GOP-led Legislature have butted heads repeatedly on elections bills in recent years, the stalemate over the preprocessing bill in question is a product of Republican divisions in the state.
GOP lawmakers Wisconsin — one of the epicenters of efforts by Trump allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election — remain fractured on how to move forward from the former president’s election denialism.
“I have no idea why senators would not want to solve the problem of these late-night ballot dumps,” Republican Assembly Speaker Robin Vos — whose chamber passed the GOP-sponsored bill allowing Wisconsin elections officials to process, but not count, absentee ballots starting one day before Election Day — told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
The bill stalled in the state Senate when the Republican chair of the election committee refused to move it due to questions raised by an outspoken Trump ally and election denier who is now herself the target of an ethics inquiry related to an effort to oust Vos.
With the bill tabled, even its Republican supporters have said that Milwaukee elections officials will face continued pressure to count ballots rapidly if they want to avoid more baseless conspiracy theories.
Pennsylvania’s election policies and ballot counting drew numerous lawsuits and conspiracy theories from Trump and his allies in 2020. Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro has pushed for changes that would allow for the influx of mail-in and absentee ballots to be processed ahead of Election Day.
But the state Legislature, where Republicans control the Senate and Democrats have a narrow majority in the House, has failed to advance legislation that would speed ballot counting in November.
One proposal, which would have allowed elections officials to prepare absentee ballots for tabulation seven days ahead of Election Day, stalled in the state House last year over some Republicans’ concerns over ballot secrecy envelopes and voter registration deadlines.
North Carolina’s new voter ID law is expected to significantly slow the counting process, too. The law creates a cure process that gives voters nine days to bring election officials their identification if they don’t have it when they vote. It also allows certain people to vote with a provisional ballot and a voter ID exception form, something that officials say will slow down their counting. Provisional ballots also take a longer amount of time to count.
North Carolina Republicans had been trying to enact a strict voter ID policy in the state for more than a decade, but were repeatedly blocked by courts until last year, when the newly Republican-controlled state Supreme Court reversed an earlier decision to allow the law to take effect.
And the early vote won’t be reported as soon as in previous years, because a new state law requires election officials not to tabulate early voting counts until polls close at 7:30 pm on election night.
“You’re not going to see any results at 7:30 like you did in previous years, you might start seeing them at 8, 8:30,” said Patrick Gannon, a spokesperson for the North Carolina State Board of Elections.
Still, many key presidential election states have taken action since 2020 to update their policies around ballot processing.
Michigan officials will now have a week to preprocess mail ballots, a dramatic increase from the 10 hours that certain counties had to begin reviewing them in 2020. The change comes as the state rolls out huge new voting changes,after a new constitutional amendment required no-excuse mail voting and nine days of early voting to all voters.
In total, 40 states and D.C. now allow some amount of ballot processing prior to Election Day, according to the Bipartisan Policy Center, up from 27 in 2020. And many of those states have extended the time frame for it.
Minnesota officials will have 18 days to preprocess ballots ahead of the election in 2024, up from seven before the pandemic.
“There’s no tally of who’s ahead,” said Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat. “It’s figuring out — do they have what they need? Did the absentee voter sign the ballot? Did she have a witness requirement?”
Arizona lawmakers also dodged a possible counting nightmare earlier this month, with bipartisan members approving a tweak to the state’s election code to give officials more time to accommodate automatic recount rules that could have left state officials double-checking ballots well past the deadline for sending their presidential electors to Washington, D.C.
And while Arizona’s ballot-counting procedures have stayed largely the same, its staff has changed: In 12 of the state’s 15 counties, one of the top two election officials has left their post, Arizona Democratic Secretary of State Adrian Fontes told NBC News earlier this month.
Many states have seen high levels of election staff turnover, and new members may struggle with complex policies or new procedures. After conspiracy theories drove an entire county’s elections staff to quit in Virginia, for example, the new staff struggled to report election results in November last year.
“That loss of institutional knowledge could delay or potentially interfere with election operations,” said Orey, from the Bipartisan Policy Center said. “We might see more small mistakes and errors that, while they don’t ultimately impact the integrity of the result, again, become fodder for that misinformation and conspiracy theories.”
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