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  • statquo
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    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

    Mm, good point. Still, the list of people that Trump could conceivably pick is vanishingly small. Although he certainly doesn't need to burnish his Christian fundo credentials like he did when he picked Pence.
    It’s not vanishing small, it’s just instead of the bottom of the barrel he’ll be picking people from underneath it.

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by JRT View Post

    Kari Lake lost, and Donald Trump is not likely going to closely associate himself with a loser. Trump is a narcissist, so regardless that Trump himself is a loser, and that many who were on team-Trump have now lost their election races, Trump will not closely associate himself with a loser.

    If Trump wins in 2024, you might see Kari Lake as Whitehouse Press Secretary. ...maybe. ...but nothing more than that.
    Mm, good point. Still, the list of people that Trump could conceivably pick is vanishingly small. Although he certainly doesn't need to burnish his Christian fundo credentials like he did when he picked Pence.

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  • JRT
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    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
    New candidate for Trump's VP pick: Kari Lake.

    Not like she's got a lot on her plate right now anyway
    Kari Lake lost, and Donald Trump is not likely going to closely associate himself with a loser. Trump is a narcissist, so regardless that Trump himself is a loser, and that many who were on team-Trump have now lost their election races, Trump will not closely associate himself with a loser.

    If Trump wins in 2024, you might see Kari Lake as Whitehouse Press Secretary. ...maybe. ...but nothing more than that.

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    I was thinking Tulsi Gabbard actually
    She's definitely on the short list

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  • Firestorm
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    Didn't say it was a conventional choice. But considering its Trump who the hell knows who he picks! Did we really see John McCain picking Sarah Palin in 2008?
    To be honest I wasn't clued in to US politics back then so I don't exactly know how big of a surprise that was. But Palin, as ridiculous as she was, still had the "correct" views about all the stuff Republicans care about. And she was Christian unlike Gabbard.

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  • DOR
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    The American “Boris” should team up with Natasha !

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Firestorm View Post

    Gabbard is politically finished. Burned all bridges with the Dems and has too many unacceptable positions for the Repubs (abortion, drugs, single-payer healthcare, climate, financial regulation, etc.)
    Didn't say it was a conventional choice. But considering its Trump who the hell knows who he picks! Did we really see John McCain picking Sarah Palin in 2008?

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  • Firestorm
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    I was thinking Tulsi Gabbard actually
    Gabbard is politically finished. Burned all bridges with the Dems and has too many unacceptable positions for the Repubs (abortion, drugs, single-payer healthcare, climate, financial regulation, etc.)

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
    New candidate for Trump's VP pick: Kari Lake.

    Not like she's got a lot on her plate right now anyway
    I was thinking Tulsi Gabbard actually

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  • TopHatter
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    New candidate for Trump's VP pick: Kari Lake.

    Not like she's got a lot on her plate right now anyway

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  • Albany Rifles
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    The grift is in!

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  • TopHatter
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    Welp, it's official. Hardly a surprise, what else can he do?

    Donald Trump files federal paperwork for 2024 presidential run
    Minutes before his scheduled 9 p.m. announcement from Mar-a-Lago,Trump filed a paperwork with the Federal Election Commission saying he was running for president in 2024, and setting up a fundraising account.
    _______

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  • TopHatter
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    The Real Reason Trump Runs
    Pride and profit are bigger factors than policy—but there’s an even bigger reason.
    Former President Donald Trump is expected to announce tonight that he will be a candidate for the presidency again in 2024. Two obvious questions come to mind: Why do it? and Why announce now?

    There are any number of reasons Trump might have decided to try for something only Grover Cleveland has achieved before and retake the presidency after a term out of office. It’s hard to believe that he has any policy aims driving him, or that he feels he in any sense owes it to the Republican party or the MAGA faithful.

    But it’s not at all difficult to believe that Trump may be driven by ego, pride, and the competitive instinct; he hates to lose and seems most energized when attacking his potential rivals. He also craves attention, wants to be center stage, and fears losing his place to Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who proved a big winner in last week’s election while Trump—via his many failed endorsees—proved a big-time loser. He’s desperate to get the blame off his back and onto someone else’s.

    And then there is greed. Trump is constantly looking for ways to mix politics and profit, and it’s likely that a “potential future president” can cut better deals than a mere “disgraced former president.” Yesterday, on the eve of his pre-announced announcement, news broke that his company signed a lucrative contract with a major Saudi developer to brand a golf-housing-hotel development in Muscat, Oman, with the Trump name.

    For all the merit of those explanations, though, they pale in comparison to another: He’s scared witless at the possibility of prosecution. It seems likely that indictments are on their way from Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis (over Trump’s interference in the 2020 election in Georgia) and from Attorney General Merrick Garland (over Trump’s purloined national security secrets taken to Mar-a-Lago).

    By formally becoming a presidential candidate, Trump thinks he’ll get an edge on prosecutors. He craves his narrative: “Dems are trying to take down an announced Republican candidate for President. UNPRECEDENTED!”

    Translation should be unnecessary: “I’m a martyr! Defend me! Go after them.” Of course, it won’t matter to Fani Willis or the DOJ. He’s in their sights, and they’ll do what they do.

    The possibility of spending time—perhaps even his last years—in prison has got to be an enormous motivation for Trump to run. If he gets convicted in Georgia, even if re-elected, he can’t pardon himself for a state conviction. Only the State Board of Pardons and Paroles has that authority in Georgia. And guess who appoints its five members, and who they might want to please? Governor Brian Kemp, with whom Trump has a long-simmering feud over Kemp certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 win in Georgia. Trump may take solace in the fact that a jury pool in Fulton County might well have a few of his true believers on it. One or two might slip in among the twelve jurors, and they could hang the jury, however strong Willis’s case.

    As for federal indictment, any trial of Trump will be brought in Washington, D.C. The Justice Department has a perfect record there in convicting the only three January 6th insurrectionists to try their luck before juries.

    Not to mention that in July, a D.C. jury took three hours to convict Trump crony Steve Bannon of contempt for stiffing the House January 6th Committee about testifying. Three hours is warp speed for a verdict, barely enough time to get the jury-room coffee brewing and elect a foreperson.

    In Trump’s shoes, who wouldn’t be scared? His fright is what explains his rejecting a laundry list of sound political reasons he had not to announce now, as aides and Republican leaders had counseled.

    First, the country just sent an unmistakable message that his brand is burnt, at least for now. In a midterm election where the sitting president’s party always suffers massive losses, Trump’s marquee “election-denier” candidates were losers—Mehmet Oz, Don Mastriano, Kristina Karamo, Kari Lake.

    Second, Republicans are angry at Trump, blaming him for their poor showing in the midterms. Allowing time for the heat to drop would serve him well.

    Third, money again: The Republican National Committee already announced that it would stop paying Trump’s legal bills if he formally became a candidate. Because he is being investigated on so many legal fronts, those bills are not pocket change.

    And fourth, by formally announcing his candidacy, Trump loses the ability—legally at least!—to spend $100 million in PAC money however he wants. By law, the spending must not be associated with his campaign.

    Trump giving up a dollar sooner than he has to is sure confirmation of fear. He hears the heavy footfall of the constable closing in behind him. He can’t stay still. He has to run.
    _________

    Well, guess we'll find out tonight what the big announcement is....

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by statquo View Post

    Sounds more like he blatantly lied about doing it which I don’t know if is worse
    The man would lie about a cold blooded murder if he thought it would somehow help him.

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  • statquo
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    Gotta admit it’s kinda deja vu. Just like 2016, here we are 6 years later and Trump is feuding with Fox News and a (past) governor of Florida.

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