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  • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
    So now DeSantis is playing nice with Biden. Well obviously because he is not about to look a gift horse in the mouth. However, this is the same turd who voted against money for New Jersey and New York after Sandy. Felt the Federal government shouldn't be in the business of handing out aid after a storm.
    DeSantis is the typical hypocritical piece of shit that's thrived in this era of Trumpism. The fact that he'll probably reelected in a walk speaks volumes about his supporters.
    "Donald Trump is the first seditious president in our history. He decided he would not abide by the election, the duly constituted, free election of Joe Biden as the president of the United States, and staged a coup to keep Biden from taking office." ~ Carl Bernstein

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    • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

      Oh it is! They pay you to live there. Of course there's the whole seasonal affective thing...
      Any place a government actually pays you (extra) to live in isn't worth the money. (I know from experience.)
      If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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      • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

        DeSantis is the typical hypocritical piece of shit that's thrived in this era of Trumpism. The fact that he'll probably reelected in a walk speaks volumes about his supporters.
        De Santis may be a product of the Trump era, but his attitude has deep, deep roots in conservatism. I'll spare you a full list going back to the Revolution, but this particular one has been fairly obvious since the 'Reagan Revolution'. Those of us on the left have long pointed out that in practical terms 'small government' has always been applied in conveniently inconsistent ways.

        Whether it it dictating what adults can do in their bedrooms, removing women's control over their bodies, policing certain demographics in ways conservatives would never accept for themselves or somehow always finding government money for things they care about, there have always been holes in 'small government' you could drive an oil tanker full of money through.

        I would certainly accept that over the past few decades conservatives have become increasingly blatant in their hypocrisy, but I would argue Trump was a product of that, rather than its initiator.
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        • Donald Trump says Mitch McConnell has a 'death wish' and insults his wife, Elaine Chao, after the senator voiced support for the Electoral Count Act reforms
          • Donald Trump said Sen. Mitch McConnell has a "death wish" for supporting "Democrat sponsored Bills."
          • He also insulted McConnell's wife, Elaine Chao, referring to her as the "China loving wife, Coco Chow."
          • McConnell recently voiced support for changing the way Congress counts electoral votes.
          In the latest salvo from the ongoing feud between Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell, the former president posted what appeared to be a death threat against the Kentucky senator on Friday.

          After criticizing McConnell for approving "Trillions of Dollars worth of Democrat sponsored Bills," Trump wrote on Truth Social that he believes the Senate Minority Leader is doing so either to spite him "because he hates Donald J. Trump" or because he "believes in the Fake and Highly Destructive Green New Deal."

          "In any event, either reason is unacceptable," Trump wrote. "He has a DEATH WISH."

          The former president proceeded to insult McConnell's wife, former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao: "Must immediately seek help and advise from his China loving wife, Coco Chow!"


          Donald Trump's post onto Truth Social on Friday said Mitch McConnell has a "death wish."Screenshot via Truth Social

          Trump didn't specify which bill he was criticizing McConnell for approving, and it's unclear why he suggested the senator supports the Green New Deal even though the bill died in 2019 when McConnell led the Senate.

          A spokesperson for Trump and McConnell did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

          On Tuesday, McConnell voiced support for the bipartisan bill to reform the Electoral Count Act in light of the January 6, 2021, riot and attempts to overturn the 2020 vote. The bill changes the way Congress counts electoral votes and would make it more difficult to challenge state-certified election results.

          "I'll proudly support the legislation, providing that nothing more than technical changes are made to its current form," McConnell said in floor remarks on Tuesday. "The chaos that came to a head on January 6 of last year certainly underscored the need for an update."
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          Trump's apologists: "dOnALd tRuMp iSnT rAciSt!!!"

          Also Trump's apologists:

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          "Donald Trump is the first seditious president in our history. He decided he would not abide by the election, the duly constituted, free election of Joe Biden as the president of the United States, and staged a coup to keep Biden from taking office." ~ Carl Bernstein

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          • Originally posted by Monash View Post
            That woman has a terrible sense of direction! And won't MAGAs make the most it after this. Talk about a misstep.
            She seems to be not the first to be confused on this in recent history.

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            • Voting Rights Act could be another step closer to death tomorrow.

              https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ng-rights-act/

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              • Originally posted by JRT View Post
                She seems to be not the first to be confused on this in recent history.
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                Cue the Trump apologist's prayer (you know the one)

                Also, can you imagine Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama saying something like that^^ and the Right not screaming "TRAITOR!!!"
                "Donald Trump is the first seditious president in our history. He decided he would not abide by the election, the duly constituted, free election of Joe Biden as the president of the United States, and staged a coup to keep Biden from taking office." ~ Carl Bernstein

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                • 'DEATH WISH'? What Trump and his wannabes did in one weekend should scare us all.

                  In the Republican Party of Donald Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, only those faithful to Trump’s cult-like MAGA movement are safe.

                  Democrats are called the enemy, labeled killers. And even Republicans who don’t embrace MAGA dogma – any lost election was stolen, Trump is always right . – have a death wish.

                  Trump, the current front-runner for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination should he decide to run, took to Truth Social on Friday night and attacked Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell because he voted for legislation sponsored by Democrats: “He has a DEATH WISH.”

                  Trump threatens McConnell, hurls racist nickname at Elaine Chao
                  Trump then launched a racist attack on McConnell’s wife, Elaine Chao, who served in Trump’s Cabinet when he was president: “Must immediately seek help and advise from his China loving wife, Coco Chow!”




                  We know from Jan. 6, 2021, that Trump has potentially violent followers who take cues from him, so there’s no way to see the “DEATH WISH” comment as anything more than a veiled threat.

                  With racist garbage about the wife of a high-ranking member of the party Trump claims to represent, the former president shows the world his true nature for the 10 millionth time. And by misspelling “advice” as “advise,” Trump shows the world, also for the 10 millionth time, that he can't be bothered with little things like attention to detail.

                  Michigan Republicans line up to kiss Trump's ring
                  This is dangerous rhetoric, but rather than stand up to it, many Republicans remained silent over the weekend. In fact, several Republicans joined Trump at a Saturday rally in Michigan, including GOP candidates for the state’s three highest offices: Tudor Dixon, running for governor; Matthew DePerno, running for attorney general; and Kristina Karamo, running for secretary of state.

                  Greene, of Georgia, was also there and, as if to impress Trump with violent rhetoric of her own, told the crowd: “I’m not going to mince words with you all. Democrats want Republicans dead, and they have already started the killings.”

                  That is absolute insanity. And like Trump’s comments directed at McConnell, it’s sickeningly dangerous. Not to mention false.

                  Trump and Greene make it clear that no one disloyal is safe
                  Saying a Republican has a “DEATH WISH” because he did his job and voted for legislation puts a target on the back of that Republican. Saying Democrats “have already started the killings” provides a justification for violence against anyone who happens to be a Democrat. Openly spouting a racist nickname against a woman of Asian heritage tells people, during a time of rising anti-Asian hate crimes, that it’s OK to be hateful.




                  And this all happened over the course of TWO DAYS!

                  Republicans keep their mouths shut in face of Trump's hatefulness
                  Any serious response from so-called reasonable Republican elected leaders? Nope. GOP Sen. Rick Scott, asked several times about Trump's words, told CNN he doesn't "condone violence" and added the useless, mealy mouthed comment: "I hope no one is racist."

                  How courageous. Republican leaders won’t say a thing, even to defend themselves, even when it’s clear Trump and his MAGA minions have loyalty only to themselves.

                  For the sizable swath of voters and politicians who remain loyal to Trump despite his falling approval numbers, this is not the behavior of a political party. This is the behavior of a cult: fealty to one individual; zero tolerance for any who stray from the core beliefs; threats of violence toward any who step out of line; characterizing those who disagree as existential threats.

                  MAGA followers think you are not a Democrat; you are a member of a party now actively killing Republicans. You are not a mainstream conservative; you are a person with a death wish.

                  How can Americans of good conscience not come together to shut this down?
                  How is it possible those of us who see how wildly messed up this all is can’t come together as one in condemnation? How is it possible for Republicans to continue supporting a malignant figure who would unleash his hateful hounds on them in a heartbeat?

                  As Trump and pathetic wannabes like Greene have committed outrage after outrage after outrage, each time sinking to new depths, there’s a common refrain: Ignore them. Don’t give them the attention they crave.

                  Like it or not, Trump and Greene have power and stand to gain more
                  That’s fine if you’re fending off a meaningless internet troll, but as I've said already, Trump is likely to be the next Republican candidate for president. And he is, of course, a former president. He’s not nobody.

                  Greene is a big-time fundraiser for Republicans and someone routinely praised by Trump and revered by his loyal followers. As much as we’d like her to be nobody, she’s not.

                  These cartoonish MAGA knuckleheads have power, and if we don’t denounce them, if we don’t vote them into oblivion, they stand to gain more. Real danger could follow because as they made clear over just one weekend, they will come for you if you’re an apostate Republican. They will come for you if you’re a Democrat because they’ll be told you’re coming for them.

                  Let's stop dancing around it and call the MAGA movement what it is
                  They will come for any who question them. Because they’re not a political movement..

                  They’re a dangerous and swiftly worsening cult.

                  And they need to be denounced by everyone, including Republicans who still value basic human decency. Then they need to be rejected by voters, en masse and with thunderous force.
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                  But but but....iT's bOtH sIdEs!

                  "Donald Trump is the first seditious president in our history. He decided he would not abide by the election, the duly constituted, free election of Joe Biden as the president of the United States, and staged a coup to keep Biden from taking office." ~ Carl Bernstein

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                  • Originally posted by Bloomberg_Markets_and_Finance
                    10 October 2022
                    Larry Summers says 'World on Fire' needs IMF/World Bank Support
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                    Former US Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers previews the annual meetings of the IMF and World Bank in Washington on "Wall Street (This) Week."
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                    • Originally posted by Politico
                      Biden's about to turn 80. Don't expect a blowout birthday bash.

                      The milestone is being met with some trepidation inside the West Wing.

                      by Jonathan LeMire
                      11 October 2023

                      It will be a birthday like no other in White House history. But those inside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. are not keen on having a blow-out celebration.

                      President Joe Biden will turn 80 years old next month, becoming the first commander-in-chief to become an octogenarian while in office. The Nov. 20 birthday will come two weeks after the midterms and will likely intensify scrutiny of Biden’s health and speculation as to whether he will seek another term.

                      If he were to win again, Biden — who already holds the distinction of being the oldest president elected — would be 82 when he takes the oath of office a second time and 86 on his successor’s Inauguration Day. His age has always been a sensitive topic among his closest allies and planning is underway as to how to best navigate the occasion.

                      White House aides are keenly aware of the storylines surrounding his age and are bracing for the inevitable news cycle. The topic has been met with some trepidation in the West Wing and senior aides have called around to Biden world allies to seek advice on how to best handle the date that will surely draw significant attention from reporters and Republicans alike.

                      For now, the plan is likely to downplay the birthday and simply focus on the work, according to those familiar with the discussions.

                      “Like President Biden has said, anyone with questions about his age should just watch him: he has delivered record job creation, made NATO the strongest it has ever been, and amassed the most significant legislative record since LBJ in less than half of one term,” said Andrew Bates, White House spokesman. “I don’t have a comment about whether POLITICO is invited to his birthday.”

                      Biden is not the first president for which age has become a matter of politics. Famously, one of his predecessors, Dwight Eisenhower, declared that “no one should ever sit in this office over 70 years old, and that I know.”

                      Eisenhower left office in 1961 not long after he hit that age. But while attitudes toward aging have changed in the decades since, White House aides know Biden’s birthday will be inherently political — as a reminder of the choice voters could face about his fitness for office.

                      “We haven’t had an 80-year-old president before, but if any lesson emerges from modern history, it is that if a president seems vigorous and well and is doing the job, age has been less of a factor for voters,” said presidential historian Michael Beschloss. “When a president plans to run for reelection at an age the voters haven’t seen before, history suggests that the burden has been on the candidate to show that age will not be a problem.”

                      Although Biden makes a point of marking other important family days — including Thanksgiving and the anniversary of his son Beau’s death — he rarely does much for his birthday. That is unlikely to change this year, though no plans have been finalized, according to those close to him.

                      Biden tends to celebrate his birthday with his family. A year ago, he spent the day, a Saturday, at his Wilmington, Del., home except when he ventured out to church. This year, it will come as much of his family will already be in Washington to celebrate the White House wedding of his granddaughter Naomi the day before.

                      Chatter about Biden’s age has been pervasive throughout the Beltway ever since he signaled he was launching his third presidential campaign back in 2019. He had visibly aged since his time as vice president, growing thinner, with less hair. His stride had also shortened and slowed, not helped by the broken foot he suffered while playing with one of his dogs during the transition.

                      The chatter has been fed by eyebrow-raising moments from Biden himself, such as when he spoke at a hunger insecurity conference and called out for an Indiana congresswoman who had died in a car crash months before.

                      “Jackie, are you here? Where’s Jackie? She must not be here,” Biden said, appearing to forget, or be unaware, that Rep. Jackie Walorski had died.

                      But White House aides dismissed the notion that such remarks — and other missteps — are a sign of age or a lack of mental acuity and note the extraordinary demands and pressures of the job. And Biden himself has long dubbed himself a “gaffe machine.”

                      Those close to Biden acknowledge that he tires more easily and, when he does, becomes more prone to such gaffes and sees his stutter become more pronounced. The president has scoffed at the notion that he is too old to run and has signaled that he intends to stand for re-election.

                      At times, however, he has also had fun with his age, joking to aides about how he is often the oldest in the room.

                      “The very first president to attend the White House Correspondents’ Dinner was Calvin Coolidge in 1924. I had just been elected to the United States Senate,” Biden joked at the April black-tie dinner. “I remember telling him, ‘Cal, just be yourself. Get up there and speak from the heart. You’re going to be great, kid.’”

                      Aides both inside and outside the White House have taken steps to prepare for another campaign. They’ve suggested that a campaign kickoff would likely come in the first few months of 2023, which would be commensurate to when other presidents signaled their re-election plans.

                      Those closest to the president say that family discussions about running, with first lady Jill Biden playing a leading role, could begin over the holidays with a final decision likely coming early in the new year. Some Democrats have quietly wondered if Biden is too old to run again but many close to the president suspect that he will — especially if Donald Trump does.

                      “The average voter doesn’t care about this. The average voter wants to know what Joe Biden is going to do to make their lives better,” said Jim Messina, who was President Barack Obama’s campaign manager for his 2012 re-election bid. “The White House’s job won’t be to talk about his age, they will sell all the stuff they have done. This guy has done historic things.”

                      Prior to Biden, the oldest man elected president was Ronald Reagan at the age of 69.

                      Though known for his own verbal missteps, Trump already tried to make Biden’s age an issue in their first matchup — dubbing his opponent “Sleepy Joe” and claiming he was no longer with it — to little impact. But Republican attacks have only continued, with a persistent drumbeat that Biden is not fit to hold office.

                      “I think we’re all concerned for President Biden’s mental health,” Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), a physician, said recently. Without any specific evidence, he added that he had seen a “deterioration” in the president.

                      But Biden advisers believe the 2020 race dealt with the current president’s age — “Americans already know how old the guy is,” one said recently — and that voters have grown more comfortable with older people in positions of power, whether in politics or business.

                      To that end, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who is running for re-election this year, is 82. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) is 71. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is 89.

                      And Trump, the presumed GOP favorite for 2024, is 76.
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                      • Originally posted by PBS_NewsHour
                        11 October 2022
                        Rising right-wing white fundamentalist Christian theocratic nationalism in the Republican party
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                        A growing movement led by right-wing politicians is increasingly challenging the separation of church and state. On the ballot this November are several high-profile Republican candidates who are embracing Christian Nationalist ideals.

                        Kristin Kobes Du Mez of Calvin University joined Laura Barrón-López to discuss.
                        Originally posted by MSNBC
                        22 August 2022
                        Dangerous Movement In Right-Wing America
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                        Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other far-right Republicans say plenty of disturbing things. But there’s a new and troubling trend in American right-wing politics: the desire to impose Christianity in the name of politics and nationalism. Professor Samuel Perry joins Mehdi to discuss: Just how dangerous is the rise of this movement in America?
                        Originally posted by MSNBC
                        28 February 2022
                        Marjorie Taylor Greene & Paul Gosar attend White Nationalist, pro-Putin political event
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                        Chris Hayes on the America First Political Action Conference, organized by an avowed white supremacist: You could call it a fringe gathering, except for the fact that two sitting members of Congress were a part of it: Republicans Paul Gosar of Arizona and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.”
                        Originally posted by MSNBC
                        03 February 2022
                        DeSantis Treats Florida Nazi Incidents As Political Game; Condemns Democrats Instead
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                        Rachel Maddow shares video of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis being asked about recent neo-Nazi activity in his state, to which he responded with a screed against Democrats.
                        Originally posted by Associated_Press
                        23 December 2021
                        FBI informant exposed KKK ties to law enforcement in Florida
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                        Working undercover inside Florida's Ku Klux Klan, Joe Moore helped foil at least two murder plots and was also an active informant when the FBI exposed KKK members working as law enforcement officers in Florida.
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                        • KKK in Florida Law Enforcement and I am not surprised but actually expect it and in many other southern states. My father, who was born and raised in Manhattan in 1926, once told me how everyone he met in the Army (1943-45), from the south, was pretty much openly racist. He apparently never saw that much in Manhattan as a kid. Well, they went home to the south and had kids between 1946-1964 like my father. Those kids are my age and they are racist, somewhat quietly, as they were influenced by their southern born daddy and granddaddy Those boomers have had kids now somewhere around 40 give or take and they too are racist but now not so subtle as we see. Once again daddy and granddaddy influence. The situation is endemic and will remain so for many more decades so why not secret KKK members now. I know some members live in the south but was your daddy, granddaddy and great granddaddy, and great great granddaddy back to 1900 all born in the south? Some things don't change over time especially when a great emphasis is placed on lineage.

                          I recall all those just a bit older than me at the time standing against blacks in their school and today they are in their 70's. Have they had a change of heart? I doubt it and DeSantis knows it himself as he is an excellent example having a southern boomer father who excelled in that stuff. His father could be in this 1962-63 picture.

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                          • Originally posted by JRT View Post

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                            All of this is some of the least surprising news bits in quite some time.
                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
                              All of this is some of the least surprising news bits in quite some time.
                              Yes, and I think that your observation is the most important point of it all, that this has now become least surprising. ...because it has become a new normal for a significant fraction, perhaps a controlling fraction, and not just a lunatic fringe.
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                              • Originally posted by JRT View Post

                                Yes, and I think that your observation is the most important point of it all, that this has now become least surprising. ...because it has become a new normal for a significant fraction, perhaps a controlling fraction, and not just a lunatic fringe.
                                I am afraid you are right...and this truly sucks.

                                As a kid living in Boston and Buffalo in the 1960s I do not recall ever interacting with African Americans or Asians other than Dad's co-workers.

                                We moved to DC in 1970 and I suddenly had African American, Asian and Hispanic kids in class with me. I remember at the time my thought about that was...nothing. I had been raised with a sense of equality for all. Certainly, the same was true in high school.

                                The first time I experienced any kind of prejudice was when I went to college in West Virginia in the mid to late 70s. For the first time in my life I was called out for being Catholic. I was called Mackerel Snapper & Papist. I recall not being offended but being amused by their attitudes. It was only later I learned that the terms were not in jest.

                                I suspect there are entire swaths of folks my age who could tell the same story.
                                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                                Mark Twain

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