A conservative perspective

[JRT]

A conservative perspective:

28 June 2022
'That's A Yes Or No': Clay Higgins Grills Police Chief On Red Flag Laws

At a House Oversight Committee hearing earlier this month, Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA) spoke about gun violence.

[Albany Rifles]

Going to miss his voice. I first heard of him while in high school and reading my older brother's copy of National Lampoon. Read several of his books over the years and very much enjoyed the Give War A Chance...released in the wake of Gulf War. Loved him on Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me where he often appeared to be in a different show.

I knew he was a smoker...another one taken by those damn things.

[Parihaka]

P. J. O’Rourke, the political satirist, NPR panelist and bestselling author whose early work with National Lampoon included contributions to the influential Lemmings show, died today of lung cancer. He was 74.

His death was confirmed by his publisher Grove Atlantic, United Talent Agency and by Peter Sagal, host of NPR’s Wait Wait . . . Don’t Tell Me program. O’Rourke served as a regular panelist on the NPR program.

O’Rourke, who began his journalism career as a left-leaning Gonzo journalist before moving toward conservative libertarianism during the 1980s, wrote for such publications as Playboy, Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone, where he served for a time as foreign-affairs desk chief. In 1996, he was the conservative commentator in the point-counterpoint segment of 60 Minutes.


In 2008, O’Rourke covered the presidential election as a “Real Time Real Reporter” for HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher.

In recent years, O’Rourke wrote for The Atlantic Monthly, The American Spectator, The Weekly Standard, Car and Driver and The Daily Beast.

Early in his writing career, O’Rourke contributed to the 1973 stage revue National Lampoon’s Lemmings, which featured a pre-Saturday Night Live line-up of Chevy Chase and John Belushi, as well as Christopher Guest. Also that year, he served as co-editor (with Doug Kenney) of the humor book National Lampoon 1964 High School Yearbook Parody, which became a source of inspiration for National Lampoon’s Animal House in 1978.

O’Rourke was the author of more than 20 books, covering such subjects as politics, economics and automobiles, including the bestsellers Parliament of Whores and Give War a Chance. He was a regular panelist on NPR’s Wait Wait . . . Don’t Tell Me, an H. L. Mencken Research Fellow at the Cato Institute and editor-in-chief of the web magazine American Consequences.

O’Rourke, who was married for several years in the 1990s to Amy Lumet, daughter of film director Sidney Lumet, is survived by wife Tina O’Rourke and three children.

On Canada:

"“Hard to tell a Canadian from an extremely boring regular white person unless he’s dressed to go outdoors.

Very little is known of the Canadian country since it is rarely visited by anyone but the Queen and illiterate sport fishermen. It is thought to resemble a sort of arctic Nebraska.

It’s reported that Canadians keep pet French people. If true, this is their only interesting trait.

At any rate, they are apparently able to train Frenchmen to play hockey, which is more than any European has ever been able to do.”

[JRT]

24 January 2022
George Will on “American Happiness and Discontents” with Don Boudreaux and John Tamny

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[zraver]

I and my family are fully vaxxed and boosted and have been. My stepson is a transplant patient. We knew there was a risk that Bub would get myocarditis. However we felt it was worth the risk given his medical condition.

I am apparently immune (until I ain't). The house was full of COVID. I never caught it. Multiple rapid and PCR tests. Bub and my wife both started recovering quickly.

[DOR]

I learned today that a good friend passed away from COVID.
Dwight was 90 years old, and fully vaccinated.
Apparently, someone else was not, or wasn't taking adequate precautions.
Those two -- the unvaccinated and the reckless -- are the two most likely reasons he died.

[Parihaka]

Too bad many conservatives have moved into the nut case category. Now I happen to have a patient who is the only person to initially intimidate me based on his background. Super intelligent, sharp, dry wit, advance degree in physics from Cal Tech, and ended up being a CFO at a Silicon Valley tech firm. Always shows up (25 years now) with his Wall Street Journal and frankly could outdo George Will from the conservative viewpoint. He could slice and dice both Z and P at the same time and they would never know what hit them.

Well, feel free to invite him along.

I asked him what he did and he told me after his research, and he knows how to do serious research, that he elected to take Moderna. Side effects were a small issue and nothing new in the big scheme of health care and drugs. Heck, there are some potent cancer drugs out there, checkpoint inhibitors, which have had remarkable success with but can cause serious myocarditis. So do you refuse the drug and die or do you roll the dice, play the decent odds, and survive cancer?

From memory Z and his family are vaccinated as am I and my family. interestingly for me, I'm "mandated" to be vaccinated as an "essential Worker", as if i wished to continue to be employed I had to be, or face loss of job and any form of govt. assistance, effectively house arrest as I'd be banned from anywhere where other people were or went.
As I was the first to be in the cue for the Pfizer vaccine I used myself as a guinea pig to test reactions, before recommending to the rest of my family.
Adverse reactions: Myself on second shot, (day in bed exhausted) my stepdaughter (same) my partner worst reaction with second jab, "mild" myocarditis (GP trying to get exemption for her from booster shot)
So certainly us nut case conservatives done went and done the jab thingie, probably by accident cause we sure can't think for ourselves. Yup.

[tbm3fan]

A recent, December 2021, analysis of a large health care organization concerning the incidence per 100,000 of myocarditis.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

Another US population based study on the same subject but also including the incidence rate before there ever was Covid. Also way down in the article individual diseases will get discussed and there will be a comment about other vaccines causing myocarditis in US military personnel between 2004-2008. So is the Covid vaccine the only vaccine with issues? No, and no surprise either. Is the rate per 100,000 higher than the rate per 100,000 in the general population before a Covid vaccine or even before Covid? No, also.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...64410X21005788

Too bad many conservatives have moved into the nut case category. Now I happen to have a patient who is the only person to initially intimidate me based on his background. Super intelligent, sharp, dry wit, advance degree in physics from Cal Tech, and ended up being a CFO at a Silicon Valley tech firm. Always shows up (25 years now) with his Wall Street Journal and frankly could outdo George Will from the conservative viewpoint. He could slice and dice both Z and P at the same time and they would never know what hit them. I asked him what he did and he told me after his research, and he knows how to do serious research, that he elected to take Moderna. Side effects were a small issue and nothing new in the big scheme of health care and drugs. Heck, there are some potent cancer drugs out there, checkpoint inhibitors, which have had remarkable success with but can cause serious myocarditis. So do you refuse the drug and die or do you roll the dice, play the decent odds, and survive cancer?

[tbm3fan]

I wonder if anyone here knows of a very, very common pill that also causes all those side effects in every study when a medication is being tested? Starts with the latter "P".

If I pull out my PDR and look up any drug in the thousands of pages and look for side effects guess what I find? All those side effects below which I basically discard since for one they aren't serious and two I could easily get a patient to say the eye drop I just put into their eye stung. That drop was plain neutral pH and buffered saline which never stings. Questioning patients, whether in a study or a practice, can be tricky since you need to watch out for leading questions which can lead you down the wrong path. I learned to be careful in that 38-40 years ago.

The top 10 reported adverse events were:

• Dizziness: 14,231 reports
• Headache: 14,185 reports
• Lethargy: 11,918 reports
• Pain at the injection site: 11,215 reports
• Nausea: 9,829 reports
• Chest discomfort: 8,523 reports
• Fever: 6,251 reports
• Influenza-like illness: 6,161 reports
• Shortness of breath: 5,053 reports
• Numbness: 4,790 reports

[Parihaka]

April 2021 was nine months ago ... not seventy years.

Goodness me yes, the research, treatment and known outcomes of myocarditis has only been known since April 2021.


Read the sentence again.

[TopHatter]

Joe, do you have any idea just how deranged you have become?

That's a very lovely speech and I appreciate the promotion to "high born of the priesthood" (I'm sure you'll deny saying that in another day or so) and your characterization of this:

Some further information about the VAERS data.

as being "literally screaming HERESY and posting half witted irrelevant examples of why it is HERESY!!" is also quite amusing, considering I never used language or font/point size/color/punctuation of anything resembling that. Instead I simply said "Here's some further information about that data". Which you consider irrelevant. And also to be "screaming". Which is hardly surprising.

I have tried reasoning with you, I have tried pointing out your logical fallacies, I have tried reaching out to you, but every time a HERESY appears in your head you go on a raving attack because YOUR RIGHT, and RIGHTEOUS, and TRUMP, and EVIL EXTREME RIGHT WINGERS, ad nauseum.

You need, as I have done, as OoE has done, as Asty is doing and Zraver has done, amongst others, and shut the fuck up and walk away until you are back in balance.

No, you've actually done none of those things. Instead you've been trolling, gaslighting and in fact been rather obvious about it. So I'm going to do what I should have done and leave your little crybaby whinefest thread to your own devices. Enjoy.

Oh and one other thing. Don't ever tell me to shut the fuck up.

[DOR]

Two months ago, stating this was COVID disinformation, leading to banning from both twitter and facebook.

Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis...

The various authorities of course continue to downplay the severity, despite over seventy years of treatment, severity and outcome.

April 2021 was nine months ago ... not seventy years.

[Parihaka]

So....just to recap: I made two posts (one from Nebraska Health and the other JAMA), and your dismissive reply was:



Our little conversation about those two posts continued, with you saying this in reference to those same two posts:



But now you're suddenly claiming:



So you're either deliberating trying to gaslight me, or you must be on some REALLY good drugs and can't remember what you just posted..

Joe, do you have any idea just how deranged you have become?

I post a perfectly innocuous piece of data from the CDC, outlining correlation between various vaccines and correlated adverse effects.
OOE posts a perfectly reasonable request for a breakdown of the data by type of adverse effect.

Enter Joe, high born of the priesthood literally screaming HERESYand posting half witted irrelevant examples of why it is HERESY!!, that have precisely NOTHING to do with the OP or subsequent discussion.

I have tried reasoning with you, I have tried pointing out your logical fallacies, I have tried reaching out to you, but every time a HERESY appears in your head you go on a raving attack because YOUR RIGHT, and RIGHTEOUS, and TRUMP, and EVIL EXTREME RIGHT WINGERS, ad nauseum.




You need a break.

You need to go connect with your neighbours and friends in the real world.

You need to stop screaming at everyone online that you disagree with.

You need, as I have done, as OoE has done, as Asty is doing and Zraver has done, amongst others, and shut the fuck up and walk away until you are back in balance.

I speak honestly from personal experience, it is very cathartic.

Leave, rest, rebalance.

Buck has this.

[TopHatter]

Well since I hadn't raised them in those terms, I'll just leave whatever it is you're on about, nestling in your brain.

So....just to recap: I made two posts (one from Nebraska Health and the other JAMA), and your dismissive reply was:

Thank you Joe for spamming the usual religious bullshyt

Our little conversation about those two posts continued, with you saying this in reference to those same two posts:

(thought I'd save you some time finding and posting more religious nut-quackery 'papers'.)

But now you're suddenly claiming:

Well since I hadn't raised them in those terms, I'll just leave whatever it is you're on about, nestling in your brain.

So you're either deliberating trying to gaslight me, or you must be on some REALLY good drugs and can't remember what you just posted..

[Parihaka]

I'm not particularly concerned with what they've published or not published. The point is that they aren't even close to being "religious nut-quackery".

Well since I hadn't raised them in those terms, I'll just leave whatever it is you're on about, nestling in your brain.