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    Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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    • #62
      Capitol Police officer died tonight from injuries sustained during the attack. From the same crowd that carried Blue Lives Matter flags on their march to insurrection.
      "Draft beer, not people."

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      • #63
        US Capitol Hill siege: Man who waved Indian flag at pro-Trump rally hails from Kochi

        This nut job thinks people from far-left organisations infiltrated the rally to create problems. Don't they read news at all?
        Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Red Team View Post
          Capitol Police officer died tonight from injuries sustained during the attack. From the same crowd that carried Blue Lives Matter flags on their march to insurrection.
          That makes everyone of these asshats an accessory to murder.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • #65
            Looks like Ted Cruz tried to put himself through a washing machine over the last day and come out clean after the rinse cycle. Sort of like a Nazi after the fall of Germany. A Nazi one day and the next a moderate businessman in Argentina.

            (CNN)Ted Cruz said something truly remarkable -- like, truly -- in an interview with a Houston TV station on Thursday.


            "The President's language and rhetoric often goes too far," the Texas senator said straight-facedly. "I think, yesterday in particular, the President's language and rhetoric crossed the line and it was reckless. I disagree with it, and I have disagreed with the President's language and rhetoric for the last four years."
            https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/polit...ump/index.html

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            • #66
              ah yes, such fine specimens of the Master Race...

              so, I'm curious, how many hearings are we gonna have on this one vs Benghazi?
              There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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              • #67
                Ah yes, Ben Ghazi. Prominent member of last decade's America's Most Fruitless Investigations alongside fellow brigands Budder E. Males and Kenneth Ya.
                "Draft beer, not people."

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                • #68
                  ‘Coward’: MAGA internet turns on Trump
                  The president acknowledged his defeat and urged for political reconciliation. His online faithful didn’t take it well.

                  After years of fidelity, Donald Trump's most ardent online fans have finally turned on him.

                  All it took was for the president to acknowledge the reality of his loss a little over a day after they, the MAGA faithful, stormed the Capitol in a violent attempt to stop the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.

                  “People were willing to die for this man and he just threw them all under the bus. That’s the only thing that’s shameful about the events of the past 36 hours,” Nick Fuentes, the host of the America First podcast and the unofficial leader of the white nationalist Groyper Army, angrily tweeted, shortly after Trump released a video Thursday night in which he conceded that Biden would be the next president and called for political reconciliation.

                  Cassandra Fairbanks, a prominent MAGA activist, tweeted: “[He] tells angry people to march to the capitol [and then] proceeds to throw his supporters under the bus.”

                  Jacob Wohl, the political dirty trickster known for failed plots to incriminate Trump critics, reposted her Tweet on his Parler page.

                  And when far-right stunt journalist and failed congressional candidate Laura Loomer posted Trump’s concession video on Parler — “It’s over,” Loomer bemoaned, “Life is about to become very hard for conservatives in America” — the people in her replies were aghast that she acknowledged Trump’s own words. “He DID NOT CONCEDE! ITS HIS NEW ADMINISTRATION that will be coming in,” one respondent wrote, a sentiment repeated ad nauseam down her feed.

                  The despondency among the MAGA faithful online represented perhaps the sharpest break the community has ever made with a president they’ve exalted. But it also prompted a familiar brand of skepticism that has marked the past four years: Was Trump merely trying to placate his establishment handlers? Or did he truly betray the MAGA movement, days after several of his followers died while following his instructions to storm the Capitol?

                  In the past, Trump had been able to keep his online devotees close by swinging back into their good graces, normally with a pot-stirring tweet or the announcement of a controversial right-wing policy. But just hours after the president released his concession video, many expressed shock that he may have closed the book on them forever.

                  QAnon conspiracy theorists, praying for years that Trump would flush Satan-worshipping pedophile elites out of Washington, tore apart any scrap of data from the video to prove that he was playing one final trick. They subjected the time stamps to numerology, thinking that there was a secret message encoded.

                  “In no way did Trump say he conceded. He said: transitioning to a new Admin. As in, he gonna clear this one out and bring a new one,” tweeted We The Inevitable, a conspiracy account, getting more than 3,000 retweets within the hour. The account’s followers agreed that this was surely a sign that he was getting rid of Vice President Mike Pence — now cast as a MAGA traitor after participating in the certification of Biden’s win — and that on Jan. 20, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, now a full-fledged QAnon patriot, would replace him in Trump’s second term.

                  And there was anger. It was directed at Trump for letting things get this far. Over on Parler, the social media platform beloved by the MAGA community for its lax moderation policies, users erupted in a fury, calling him a number of expletives, a “dildo,” and “100% THE SWAMP.”

                  Some tried to distance themselves from Trump despite their years of activity in MAGAworld, while aiming to redirect their followers’ anger at the next administration. “Yes there were issues. Call those out. Yes after FISA fraud and hoax after hoax, put pressure on Democrats and recognize they have no moral authority,” posted Mike Cernovich, a pizzagate conspiracist who was once nearly an investigative journalist. “But never, ever, go all in Trump.”

                  Others accepted the loss and showed appreciation for Trump’s remarks.

                  “Thank you @realDonaldTrump. We tried our best to uncover the truths in our electoral system. We learned a lot,” tweeted Ron Watkins, the former administrator of 8Kun, the forum that continues to host “Q drops” from the mysterious figure at the center of QAnon. “As Americans, we will support our president on January 20 and beyond.”

                  But the commentary was not without its share of conspiracy. A popular thread held that the Capitol rioters were actually antifa in disguise, there to trick the public into turning against the MAGA faithful and Trump himself. (Antifa is short for "anti-facists" and is an umbrella description of far left-leaning militant groups that resist neo-Nazis and white supremacists.) There was hope as well that Trump was merely biding his time. They analyzed every word of his video announcement and noticed, to their glee, that he did not formally acknowledge Joe Biden’s win — just merely that a new administration would take over on Jan. 20.

                  And then, as despair was kicking in, Trump gave them what they needed: a digital attaboy for their support.

                  “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future,” Trump tweeted on Friday morning. “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

                  And just like that, the faith was restored. “He says GIANT VOICE which are used in military installations to to alert everyone to EMERGENCIES in the area,” tweeted pro-QAnon account Copious MQ. It was retweeted 700 times within minutes.

                  “[I'm] feeling much better, for a minute I thought I was alone in my thinking,” one account replied.

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                  These poor cultists...oh wait, I forgot that I don't have an ounce of sympathy for them. Tough shit you gullible simpletons, see you on January 20th!
                  Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ABC_News

                    Why weren’t the Capitol rioters arrested on the spot?
                    published on 08 January 2021



                    The former assistant secretary for counterterrorism on how the siege of the Capitol quickly turned violent and how the new administration should investigate the situation.

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                    • #70
                      FBI Most Wanted

                      Violence at the United States Capitol


                      https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-i...states-capitol
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                      • #71

                        Michael Beschloss

                        @BeschlossDC
                        Please pay attention to this statement, everyone — just issued by Twitter executives: “Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.”

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                        • #72
                          Never leave the house without your zip ties.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by statquo View Post
                            Never leave the house without your zip ties.

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                            ....and tasers. No protest is complete without zip ties & tasers. Sounds like the 'go' bag for a serial killer.

                            Apparently one of the dead guys accidentally tasered himself. Hard to feel sad about that one - just nature culling the shallow end.
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                            • #74
                              it's pretty clear that Sund is trying to shape the narrative here. yes, there's definitely bureaucratic command and control issues but the biggest LIMFAC is depending on the DC Guard as a "quick reaction force", which simply doesn't work. by the time Sund was on his 2:26 PM conference call, the rioters breached and were already inside for 10 minutes. by the time acting SECDEF authorized the Guard to go in, the rioters had been inside the building for over 45 minutes.

                              Sund and his bosses fucked up because they should have been prepared for an enormous number of rioters -days- in advance. even taking Trump out of the equation here, the Parler shits had already been talking about "cleaning out the Capitol" on Jan 6 for weeks.

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                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d6_story.html

                              Just before noon Wednesday, Sund was monitoring Trump’s speech to the crowd on the Ellipse when he was called away. There were reports of two pipe bombs near the Capitol grounds. So Sund didn’t hear the president call on protesters to “fight” against lawmakers preparing to confirm Biden’s victory. Nor did he hear Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, urging the crowd to engage in “trial by combat,” an eerie reference to battles to the death in the series, “Game of Thrones.” Sund said he now suspects that the pipe bombs were an intentional effort to draw officers away from the Capitol perimeter.

                              The first wave of protesters arrived at the Capitol about 12:40 p.m.

                              “As soon as they hit the fence line, the fight was on,” Sund said. “Violent confrontations from the start. They came with riot helmets, gas masks, shields, pepper spray, fireworks, climbing gear — climbing gear! — explosives, metal pipes, baseball bats. I have never seen anything like it in 30 years of events in Washington.”

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                              At 2:26 p.m., Sund joined a conference call organized by D.C’s homeland security director, Chris Rodriguez. Among those on the screen were the District’s police chief, mayor and Walker.

                              Unlike anywhere else in the country, the D.C. Guard does not report to a governor, but to the president, so Walker patched in the office of the Secretary of the Army, noting that he would need authorization from the Pentagon to order soldiers to the Capitol.

                              A top Army official noted the Pentagon still needed authorization from Capitol Police to step foot on Capitol grounds. Sund ticked through details on the severity of the breach, but the call got noisy with crosstalk as officials asked more questions.

                              Contee sought to quiet the din. “Wait, wait,” he said, and then directed attention to Sund. “Steve, are you requesting National Guard assistance at the Capitol?”

                              Sund said he replied: “I am making urgent, urgent, immediate request for National Guard assistance.”

                              But the Army official, dialed in from across the river at the Pentagon, pushed back, according to Sund, saying he would prefer to have Guard soldiers take up posts around Washington, relieving D.C. police, so that they could respond to the Capitol instead of guardsmen. Sund’s account is supported by four D.C. officials on the call, including D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser.

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                              According to a timeline the Defense Department published Friday, Miller verbally authorized the activation of the entire D.C. Guard at 3:04 p.m. It would take two more hours for most of the citizen soldiers to leave their jobs and homes, and pick up gear from the D.C. Armory.

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                              Sund blamed Trump for putting his officers at risk, saying “the crowd left that rally and had been incited by some of the words the president said.” Sund said he fears what may come next.
                              There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                              • #75
                                re: what I said about the rioters being a minute or two away from breaching the Senate in session, this was the one police officer, Officer Eugene Goodman, blocking and ultimately tricking the rioting scum away, which bought JUST enough time for them to seal the Senate chamber.
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                                There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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