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“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
I dunno, seems like a lot of Americans just live for conspiracy theories. Probably because their own life is so boring and uninteresting.If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.
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Originally posted by Monash View Post
Well if Trump wins in 2024? Boring might not be a problem for them anymore. I believe the phrase is 'interesting times'?“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
I dunno, seems like a lot of Americans just live for conspiracy theories. Probably because their own life is so boring and uninteresting.“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
I dunno, seems like a lot of Americans just live for conspiracy theories. Probably because their own life is so boring and uninteresting.
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Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
Not just Americans. I bet one could go back to ancient Egypt and Greece and find plenty of strange conspiracies. Only back then they blamed them on the Gods. Look at the average German circa 1938 where they had "those others." I think we need to bring back the Gods so these people have someone else to blame.
And yeah, conspiracy theories are definitely the modern mythology.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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‘Coolest thing I’ve ever done’: Florida Jan. 6 rioter gave cop a concussion, bragged about it on Instagram
TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — A Florida man will spend over two years in prison for assaulting a Capitol police officer on Jan. 6, leaving him with a concussion.
According to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), Daniel Gray, 43, of Jacksonville worked as a former mixed martial arts instructor and bartender before he landed behind bars.
On Dec. 12, 2020, Gray told his Facebook followers that he and fellow supporters of former President Donald Trump were heading to the Capitol to “shut the entire city down,” court records state.
Court documents show Gray made the following statements on Dec. 12:- “Militia finna be lit y’all!!!”
- “Bro I just joined the militia.”
- “Here is the move y’all. If they intend to certify a false election it’s gonna have to be to our faces.”
- “the only day that matters is the 20th. On the 6th a f—— s— ton of us are going to Washington to shut the entire city down. It’s gonna be insane I literally can’t wait.”
He also posted a screenshot of the Wikipedia page for the Insurrection Act of 1807 and captioned it, “S–t’s about to get lit y’all. I’m actually really excited at the possibility of the insurrection act being implemented.”
Gray confronts police at the Capitol (DOJ)
On Jan. 6, Gray “engaged in confrontations” with police as they tried to prevent the crowd from entering the Capitol Rotunda. He pushed through to the front of the mob, where he was captured on police body camera video approaching officers and shoving them.
The crowd pushed the police line toward a marble staircase, where an officer, identified in court documents as Officer M.B., stepped back from the crowd after being sprayed with a “chemical irritant.” Her body camera footage showed Gray approach her, grab her baton and shove her backwards.
“Officer M.B. then lost her balance and fell down the Western Rotunda stairs for several
seconds,” the criminal complaint stated. “Officer M.B. was visibly injured and fellow officers carried her outside to ask fellow officers for assistance.”
The fall left Officer M.B. with a concussion and chronic back pain.
Officer M.B. after falling down the stairs (DOJ)
Gray continued pushing police officers, along with a large group of rioters, until they broke through the line and reached an atrium that led to congressional offices. Police pushed the mob out of the atrium and out of the Capitol building shortly after.
“Dude we literally took congress over,” Gray wrote in a text message. “I don’t wanna say too much more lol was the rowdiest thing I’ve ever done and you know me lol.”
Gray showed back up at the Capitol the next morning and was detained by police in a parking lot in response to a BOLO (be on the lookout). They let him go about 45 minutes later.
Gray detained by police on Jan. 7, 2021 (DOJ)
On Jan. 8, Gray posted a 4-minute video to his Instagram where he talked about his experience at the Capitol while walking through an airport. He claimed he “stormed Nancy Pelosi’s office” and tried to reason with the police, saying, “I told them, ‘Hey, stand down there’s too many of us. Go home, go find your wives, go find your kids, you don’t want to do this’.”
He said “a female cop” stole his phone and described “pushing them (the police) down the staircase.” He also mentioned returning to the Capitol on Jan. 7 and getting detained.
“This is far from over,” Gray said in the video. “That was the coolest thing I’ve ever done in my entire life and stay tuned.”
Several witnesses tipped off the FBI to Gray’s activities at the Capitol. Days after the attack, he wrote in a message, “If Biden is sworn in Im coming back to fight. But I truly dont believe he will be sworn in.”
Joe Biden was sworn in as President on Jan. 20, 2021 and Gray was arrested four months later in Jacksonville. He pleaded guilty to two felony charges of obstruction of an official proceeding and assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers.
On Friday, a federal judge in D.C. handed him a 30-month prison sentence, followed by 36 months of supervised release and ordered him to pay $2,000 in restitution.
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Why would he want the Insurrection Act to be implemented if it wasn't a "real" insurrection?“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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What is it with those in the age range of 30-50. Here's another one above in his 40's.
Court documents show Gray made the following statements on Dec. 12:- “Militia finna be lit y’all!!!”
- “Bro I just joined the militia.”
- “Here is the move y’all. If they intend to certify a false election it’s gonna have to be to our faces.”
- “the only day that matters is the 20th. On the 6th a f—— s— ton of us are going to Washington to shut the entire city down. It’s gonna be insane I literally can’t wait.”
Yeah, I sound pretty corny at 70, huh?
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Trump fan who assaulted officers with a hockey stick on Jan. 6 sentenced to prison
WASHINGTON — A Donald Trump enthusiast who believed the former president's lies about the 2020 election was sentenced on Wednesday to more than three years in federal prison for assaulting law enforcement officers with a hockey stick during the brutal battle at the lower west tunnel of the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack.
Michael Joseph Foy was arrested in January 2021 and was initially held in pretrial detention. He was found guilty of felony charges in June. Federal prosecutors sought more than eight years in federal prison for Foy, saying he assaulted officers with a hockey stick and a sharpened metal pole after traveling to Washington with a "TRUMP 2020" flag.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
But U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan — who is overseeing Trump's delayed federal trial on charges he tried to overturn his 2020 election loss by conspiring to obstruct Congress and disenfranchise American voters — said Wednesday that the Justice Department's request was "unreasonable" and didn't factor in Foy's prior military service and other factors in his life in the lead-up to Jan. 6. Chutkan ultimately landed on a sentence of 40 months, meaning that Foy will end up serving an additional two years and a few months in federal prison.
Foy, according to the FBI, had previously shown up to the TCF Center in Detroit after the 2020 election, where Trump supporters spun up on lies about the elections process harassed poll workers and banged on windows to try to stop absentee ballots from being counted. In court on Wednesday, his attorney said that Foy's mother and stepfather were "ardent Trump supporters" who also bought into Trump's lies about the election, which made him more susceptible to the misinformation that Trump and his allies were spreading.
Elizabeth Mullin, one of the federal public defenders representing Foy, argued that giving him a lengthy sentence wouldn't stop future potential rioters from responding to false claims and heated rhetoric from political candidates going forward. A sentence for a random Jan. 6 rioter, she argued, wouldn’t have that much of a deterrent effect when prominent figures — including the presumptive Republican nominee for president — continue to spread lies about the 2020 election. Chutkan avoided getting roped into a discussion of the former president’s culpability for the Capitol attack ahead of the trial she'll oversee.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
“I’m not getting into that,” Chutkan said with a smile, prompting laughter in the courtroom.
“Also not getting into that,” she added, when the defense attorney discussed members of Congress who acted upon Trump’s election lies and continue to promote them.
Chutkan did take umbrage at the suggestion that Foy had only planned to use the hockey stick he brought from Michigan as a flagpole.
"This isn't a hockey town," Chutkan said, quipping that fans of the Washington Capitals "may disagree." Foy's attorney conceded that Foy ultimately used the hockey stick as a weapon at the Capitol.
In a video played during his sentencing, Foy described himself as a “30-year-old loser” who was living at his mom's house in the lead-up to the attack, which is when Foy fell for what his attorney described as “the dire propaganda” of the former president. Foy thanked Chutkan for helping him get “much-needed mental health help” after he was first arrested.
"Not a day goes by where I didn't say to myself 'I'm not going to let you down,'" Foy told Chutkan during the hearing.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Chutkan said that Foy had every right to peacefully protest and that he had the right even now to believe whatever lies about the 2020 election that he chooses. But she suggested she hoped Foy had now come to realize that he had “embraced” false beliefs “based on misinformation.” Foy was not being punished for his false beliefs, she reiterated. “I’m punishing you for what you did,” she told him.
Chutkan said what happened on Jan. 6 was "terrifying," that she was "horrified every single time" she watched videos from that day. Deterrence "is a very important factor" to prevent future rioters from acting on any future lies from political candidates, she said.
“I’ve seen so many people before me who never lifted a hand in violence before Jan. 6," Chutkan said. “There have to be significant consequences."
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Foy described himself as a “30-year-old loser” who was living at his mom's house in the lead-up to the attack
I'm shocked. This is my shocked face.“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostTrump fan who assaulted officers with a hockey stick on Jan. 6 sentenced to prison
WASHINGTON — A Donald Trump enthusiast who believed the former president's lies about the 2020 election was sentenced on Wednesday to more than three years in federal prison for assaulting law enforcement officers with a hockey stick during the brutal battle at the lower west tunnel of the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack.
Michael Joseph Foy was arrested in January 2021 and was initially held in pretrial detention. He was found guilty of felony charges in June. Federal prosecutors sought more than eight years in federal prison for Foy, saying he assaulted officers with a hockey stick and a sharpened metal pole after traveling to Washington with a "TRUMP 2020" flag.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
But U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan — who is overseeing Trump's delayed federal trial on charges he tried to overturn his 2020 election loss by conspiring to obstruct Congress and disenfranchise American voters — said Wednesday that the Justice Department's request was "unreasonable" and didn't factor in Foy's prior military service and other factors in his life in the lead-up to Jan. 6. Chutkan ultimately landed on a sentence of 40 months, meaning that Foy will end up serving an additional two years and a few months in federal prison.
Foy, according to the FBI, had previously shown up to the TCF Center in Detroit after the 2020 election, where Trump supporters spun up on lies about the elections process harassed poll workers and banged on windows to try to stop absentee ballots from being counted. In court on Wednesday, his attorney said that Foy's mother and stepfather were "ardent Trump supporters" who also bought into Trump's lies about the election, which made him more susceptible to the misinformation that Trump and his allies were spreading.
Elizabeth Mullin, one of the federal public defenders representing Foy, argued that giving him a lengthy sentence wouldn't stop future potential rioters from responding to false claims and heated rhetoric from political candidates going forward. A sentence for a random Jan. 6 rioter, she argued, wouldn’t have that much of a deterrent effect when prominent figures — including the presumptive Republican nominee for president — continue to spread lies about the 2020 election. Chutkan avoided getting roped into a discussion of the former president’s culpability for the Capitol attack ahead of the trial she'll oversee.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
“I’m not getting into that,” Chutkan said with a smile, prompting laughter in the courtroom.
“Also not getting into that,” she added, when the defense attorney discussed members of Congress who acted upon Trump’s election lies and continue to promote them.
Chutkan did take umbrage at the suggestion that Foy had only planned to use the hockey stick he brought from Michigan as a flagpole.
"This isn't a hockey town," Chutkan said, quipping that fans of the Washington Capitals "may disagree." Foy's attorney conceded that Foy ultimately used the hockey stick as a weapon at the Capitol.
In a video played during his sentencing, Foy described himself as a “30-year-old loser” who was living at his mom's house in the lead-up to the attack, which is when Foy fell for what his attorney described as “the dire propaganda” of the former president. Foy thanked Chutkan for helping him get “much-needed mental health help” after he was first arrested.
"Not a day goes by where I didn't say to myself 'I'm not going to let you down,'" Foy told Chutkan during the hearing.
Michael Joseph Foy outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Chutkan said that Foy had every right to peacefully protest and that he had the right even now to believe whatever lies about the 2020 election that he chooses. But she suggested she hoped Foy had now come to realize that he had “embraced” false beliefs “based on misinformation.” Foy was not being punished for his false beliefs, she reiterated. “I’m punishing you for what you did,” she told him.
Chutkan said what happened on Jan. 6 was "terrifying," that she was "horrified every single time" she watched videos from that day. Deterrence "is a very important factor" to prevent future rioters from acting on any future lies from political candidates, she said.
“I’ve seen so many people before me who never lifted a hand in violence before Jan. 6," Chutkan said. “There have to be significant consequences."
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Foy described himself as a “30-year-old loser” who was living at his mom's house in the lead-up to the attack
I'm shocked. This is my shocked face.If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.
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Originally posted by Monash View Post
Just out of curiosity how many of the rioters did you imagine would have full time jobs calculating launch trajectories for NASA?“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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Originally posted by Monash View Post
Just out of curiosity how many of the rioters did you imagine would have full time jobs calculating launch trajectories for NASA?sigpic
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
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Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
I suspect most Trump supporters would refuse to believe that some of the people who actually used to do that were a group of black women. :)
(Says my inner MAGA)If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.
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Weed-Smoking Capitol Rioter Spars With Judge Handing Down His Sentence
A New York man who climbed through a broken window during the 2021 Capitol riot and went on to relax in a Senate office with some marijuana has received a prison sentence of three and a half years.
First, though, he exchanged some heated words with U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden.
The judge admonished Brandon Fellows, a 29-year-old chimney repairman and tree cutter from Schenectady, reportedly saying he had never seen a defendant so contemptuous.
“You have repeatedly made a mockery of these proceedings,” McFadden told Fellows on Thursday amid repeated interruptions, WUSA9 News reported.
“There is no grand conspiracy here against you,” McFadden said, per The Washington Post. “It’s time for you to grow up!”
Fellows reportedly displayed no remorse at his August trial, where he represented himself and claimed McFadden was running a “Nazi court.” His antics so alarmed the jury that they sent a note to the judge during deliberations to confirm Fellows did not have any of their personal identifying information.
Fellows was convicted on one felony count and four misdemeanors relating to his participation in the riot.
He continued to lash out at McFadden even after the trial, calling him a “modern day Nazi judge” in one court filing, which he signed as “your favorite Political prisoner.”
Prosecutors displayed images for the jury of Fellows leaning back in a chair in the office of Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) to smoke marijuana, wearing sunglasses and a fake beard made of yarn as he propped his feet on a piece of furniture.
Brandon Fellows appears in a photograph atop a police motorcycle during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.
He was caught on camera climbing into the Capitol building through a broken window shortly before 3 p.m. He went on to parade a “Trump 2020” flag through the doors to the Senate Wing. His path brought him to Merkley’s office, then to the Capitol crypt, before he exited the same way he came, harassing two U.S. Capitol Police officers on his way out, according to prosecutors.
He then gave an interview to CNN right outside the building.
Days after the incident, prosecutors said, Fellows made social media posts indicating he was proud to have taken part in the riot.
“Brought my heart joy to see these members terrified for their lives,” he wrote in one post, according to prosecutors. “For what they have done and are doing to this country I hope they live in constant fear.”
Fellows is seen in the office of Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) the day of the riot.
In an interview with Bloomberg the week after the riot, Fellows said he believed that the 2020 presidential election was rigged against former President Donald Trump, and said he had “no regrets.” (No evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election has been found.)
Fellows said he got most of his news from YouTube commentators like Ben Shapiro and right-wing outlets like Newsmax, which amplified the “stolen election” conspiracy theory.
His stepfather told Bloomberg that Fellows’ mind was made up: “You can’t really change it with any kind of reality.”
The Department of Justice says that so far more than 1,300 people, from nearly all 50 states, have been charged for their alleged roles in the riot.
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Asking Cult45 to "grow up" is like asking them to stop believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”
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