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Originally posted by cadpipe View PostThis is just a guess: while you are trying to assess the distance and figure out which stance to use, 7th sniper could put 6 holes in you.
KISS-Keep It Simple S........
I think that shooting can be taught, but being a shooter is gift, or else we would all be Bob Mundens and Jerry Miculeks.
At this point, what I think Red should do, is skip it all, and come spend a couple days with me on my range. He can shoot about everything he can imagine, under responsible tutilage and then take it from there.;)
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Originally posted by 7thsfsniper View PostSince I have no idea what "center axis relock" is, though I think it a fancy name for something we have been doing for years, I am not against a reputable firearms class. He can learn safety there, after that, he can learn how to shoot.:tank:
I think that shooting can be taught, but being a shooter is gift, or else we would all be Bob Mundens and Jerry Miculeks.
At this point, what I think Red should do, is skip it all, and come spend a couple days with me on my range. He can shoot about everything he can imagine, under responsible tutilage and then take it from there.;)"There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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Originally posted by Stitch View PostUm, where exactly do you live? I'd like to drop by and try out an M-1911A1, and maybe an AR, or an SR-25, if you've got one . . . . .
I am in SW MO (Joplin) and my range is close by on private property. There is no one else I have to put up with and I have about 350 yds available, with 180 degree shooting scenarios available.
I have had a standing invitation to any wabbers to come and go shooting whenever I can accomodate, which is often.
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Originally posted by 7thsfsniper View PostSold my "SR-25"(actually the better Panther LR-308) so that's not an option these days."There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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Originally posted by 7thsfsniper View PostSince I have no idea what "center axis relock" is, though I think it a fancy name for something we have been doing for years, I am not against a reputable firearms class. He can learn safety there, after that, he can learn how to shoot.:tank:
I think that shooting can be taught, but being a shooter is gift, or else we would all be Bob Mundens and Jerry Miculeks.
At this point, what I think Red should do, is skip it all, and come spend a couple days with me on my range. He can shoot about everything he can imagine, under responsible tutilage and then take it from there.;)
As to center axis Relock, it's a fairly new shooting stance catered to pistols but possible with carbines and shotguns. It's supposed to enhance recoil management and provide better control in tight spaces, so it's more of a practical home defense skill than anything. From what I've heard, classes are fairly limited around so I'm considering doing it as a supplement to my fundamentals."Draft beer, not people."
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One learns new things on WAB frequently.Like the Sarge said,what's the news?
Also,a friendly piece of advice.If you're going into a fight,don't do that.A few reasons.One,if it's really close you don't have time to get into the stance.You'll get stabbed,beaten etc... .So you need to point shoot,while having the other hand ready to defend yourself(or why not,hit the other guy to disturb him,while you grab the gun to put a few rounds in his belly).two,if the distance is bigger than 5m AND you have the time to get the gun,aim properly,while taking cover.That weirdo thing also reduces your situational awareness,at least on the left side(if you shoot right handed).
Third-one that can't control the recoil of a pistol,should forget about guns and go to the gym.
Sarge,what's wrong with SR25?Those who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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From what Ive heard about CAR from friends taking the class was that with proper drilling, your muscle memory would actually allow you to draw much faster (no arm extension) than with the same applications to the weaver stance. I could also see how it would let you sustain fire with a fully automatic machine pistol without spraying all over the place...
I believe the CAR instructors said it wasn't an exclusive technique, it was meant to have ample room and even encouraged to be used in conjunction with the weaver. But in the end I don't really know if it's at all practical for my personal needs so I'm still contemplating.
My only real concern would be learning to fire from the "high" position...talk about don't try this at home :insane:"Draft beer, not people."
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Rule 1 in a fight is win it.Nobody gives a sh!t about tactics,weapons etc...,but everyone cares to live another day. Do whatever it takes to win.Any skill,any technique and any gun is good to know intimately.That way,you'll apply them to their full potential,when is needed and where is needed.
Rigidity,particulary in thinking isn't good.Thus I don't know why one would put too much value on a certain technique or train too much on it.For a start,stance means 0 in a fight.Hitting the bastard and avoiding being hit are priority no. 1.Stance leads to trading bullets,which is a losing solution.Avoiding being hit means movement,either towards cover or simply vertical or lateral movement if cover is inexistent or too far away.
Once you move,you better have a stable upper body.
Primitive,but effective.All the rest,naming,instructor ego,schools of thought conflict is crap.JMHOThose who know don't speak
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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The corollary to the first rule in a fight is that there are no rules. Everything is fair, from eye-gouging and nut-kicking to bringing a gun to a knife/fist fight. Marquess of Queensberry rules are great for boxing, useless everywhere elseMeddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.
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Originally posted by Red Team View PostThat's very decent of you sir, I may just take you up on that sometime! :)
As to center axis Relock, it's a fairly new shooting stance catered to pistols but possible with carbines and shotguns.
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