What guns do you own?

[USSWisconsin]

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Recent convert in the teachings of Our Supreme Prophet John Moses Browning (pbuh):wors:, of the Holy Church of 1911, whose divine design has been rendered superbly by Sturm Ruger.:Dancing-Banana:

Don't know about the Ruger part, the 1911 part is excellent! You now have an example of the finest firearm on the planet! I like it! :Dancing-Banana:

I've always appreciated the 1911, it is one of those rare ideal designs that is hard to improve. The German Luger is a another contender for an ideal pistol design, though it was never as rugged as the 1911, it is still hard to beat for balance. I consider today's modern pistols like the Glocks or S&W M&P to be descendants of the 1911.

[antimony]

Don't know about the Ruger part, the 1911 part is excellent! You now have an example of the finest firearm on the planet! I like it! :Dancing-Banana:

Ruger has made a very handsome gun with the SR1911, a series 70 gun though, which means not available in CA yet. They instead have a very light titanium firing pin coupled with a strong spring, to satisfy the safety nazis.

The finish is a very low glare satiny stainless Steel, with the striking two tone look given by the slide stop, thumb safety and sights. I was actually looking for the Springfield SS mil spec but then saw this one at the LGS.

The only problem is availability though.

Also, COMPLETELY made in the USA

[antimony]

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I've always appreciated the 1911, it is one of those rare ideal designs that is hard to improve. The German Luger is a another contender for an ideal pistol design, though it was never as rugged as the 1911, it is still hard to beat for balance. I consider today's modern pistols like the Glocks or S&W M&P to be descendants of the 1911.

The first time I went to the range, I fired a Springfield 1911 chambered in 9mm and instantly fell in love with how it felt in my hand.

[USSWisconsin]

I've owned four Rugers, two single sixes, a Super Blackhawk and a 10/22. I loved them all. I still have the 10/22, sold the pistols in college - I'm working on buying them back - but their current owners aren't easy to convince... I've never had any problems with any Ruger - they make some great guns.

[surfgun]

I've always appreciated the 1911, it is one of those rare ideal designs that is hard to improve. The German Luger is a another contender for an ideal pistol design, though it was never as rugged as the 1911, it is still hard to beat for balance. I consider today's modern pistols like the Glocks or S&W M&P to be descendants of the 1911.

Actually, Glock's and M&P's have a bit in common with Luger's as they are all striker fired, while the 1911 has a hammer and firing pin set up. Or are you just talking about grip angle?

[gunnut]

I'm actually fairly certain many of the creepy old men here would love to hear more about your kick-radius...

Yes...tell us more...

[gunnut]

I've always appreciated the 1911, it is one of those rare ideal designs that is hard to improve. The German Luger is a another contender for an ideal pistol design, though it was never as rugged as the 1911, it is still hard to beat for balance. I consider today's modern pistols like the Glocks or S&W M&P to be descendants of the 1911.

Luger is one of those magnificent German engineering pieces that isn't very practical for military use. The sight is built on the toggle and the toggle could get jarred out of alignment after enough rounds, or could have problem from the factory if the machining isn't precise enough. Machining, that's another thing about Lugers and Mauser C96s, they are all machined. That makes them very expensive and time consuming to make.

Browning 1911 design was near perfect. The swinging link and the lug on the barrel/slide were improved and simplified in the Sig SAUER P220. The external safeties have been changed to internal safety and a decocker. Some prefer this. Some don't. I prefer it because I don't want to fiddle around a safety when my ass is on the line.

For a casual shooter, I believe Glock is the perfect handgun. It's simple to operate and manufacture. It has quality and is inexpensive at the same time, a rare feat in engineering.

Would I want a Luger and Mauser in my collection? HELL YEAH!!!

I really should post some pictures of my new 1911. I'll get to it soon.

[gunnut]

My new Rock Island Armory 1911 Tactical in 45ACP

[BadKharma]

They let you have that in California?

[gunnut]

They let you have that in California?

Yes. Despite the dry condition and the brush fire risk, we are still allowed to own a lighter.

[surfgun]

"[QUOTE=gunnut;884658]Luger is one of those magnificent German engineering pieces that isn't very practical for military use. The sight is built on the toggle and the toggle could get jarred out of alignment after enough rounds, or could have problem from the factory if the machining isn't precise enough. Machining, that's another thing about Lugers and Mauser C96s, they are all machined. That makes them very expensive and time consuming to make."

The toggle on my DWM 1913 Luger (that's right a pistol that turns 100 in a few months) is as tight as any modern handgun. Perhaps it may get "jarred" within its next 200 years of existence?
My Luger is in much better shape than my C96 (thanks to some Tokarev rounds) also built in 1913, it broke a locking block, thank goodness I had a spare locking block.

[gunnut]

The toggle on my DWM 1913 Luger (that's right a pistol that turns 100 in a few months) is as tight as any modern handgun. Perhaps it may get "jarred" within its next 200 years of existence?
My Luger is in much better shape than my C96 (thanks to some Tokarev rounds) also built in 1913, it broke a locking block, thank goodness I had a spare locking block.

I hate you so much...

Luger and C96 are great for casual shooters. But they are not as good for a military. All the machining make them expensive to produce. Your DWM toggle is still tight, but how many rounds do you run through it? Don't know about Luger, but C96 barrel is machined into the receiver. It's a bitch to change the barrel once it's shot out. A civilian shooter probably won't have a chance to shoot one out. But that could happen to a military issue.

These 2 guns remain on my list to collect. I just have a thing for German pistols...

[surfgun]

As you may have figured, I am not the original owner of the Luger. I have had it for about 15 years. I put new springs it when I got it. I have most likely put about 400-500 rounds of lead round nose down the barrel (to take it easy on the barrel).
My C96 still has good rifling. With proper Mauser ammo, it shoots the 85 grain bullet at about 1,450 FPS, while my ill advised Tokarev ammo exercise sent 85 grain bullets out of the old C96 at 1,600 FPS! The fire control group in these pistols were hand fitted almost like an old watch.
I also enjoy shooting my old AC44 Walther P38 (since you like hearing about old German pistols).

[gunnut]

As you may have figured, I am not the original owner of the Luger. I have had it for about 15 years. I put new springs it when I got it. I have most likely put about 400-500 rounds of lead round nose down the barrel (to take it easy on the barrel).
My C96 still has good rifling. With proper Mauser ammo, it shoots the 85 grain bullet at about 1,450 FPS, while my ill advised Tokarev ammo exercise sent 85 grain bullets out of the old C96 at 1,600 FPS! The fire control group in these pistols were hand fitted almost like an old watch.
I also enjoy shooting my old AC44 Walther P38 (since you like hearing about old German pistols).

Oh yeah...don't fire Tok rounds through a Broomhandle. That's bad.

I have a post war Walther P38, made in 1961 and arsenal refurbished in 1980. It's not as historic as your AC44, but it does have all matching parts.

You need to post some pictures, you know....pics or they don't exist...

[surfgun]

My photo file of those pistols has been corrupted. So- no photo's for now.

BTW, my Luger still has the two matching serialized magazines.