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  • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    7.62x39? It's barely a whitetail calibre and certainly not a moose calibre.
    A Moose? Maybe if you had three of them and ambushed the moose in a FA crossfire. The least I would trust is my super hot, hard nose 45-70s. I don't like tracking blood trails.

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    • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
      I like to eat what I hit, Eric.
      Some parts are just already ground.

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      • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
        I like to eat what I hit, Eric.
        So you hunt? I don't know if I ever could... Can't shoot at a animal, for some reason. I'd shoot a invader trying to enter my home. But a rabbit, or a duck... Can't.

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        • Please tell me that you've at least dispatched a few chickens.

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          • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
            Please tell me that you've at least dispatched a few chickens.
            No... I just can't. I'm sorry. An armed enemy, that's one thing. Some cute little furry or feathery creature is quite different, I'm afraid. That's my mother's influence... She is a animal lover. Especially cats. Always told me that those who hurt animals are awful scum. Told me to never be like that. I grew up defending animals... Beat up a guy at my school for kicking a dog, once.

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            • Then, I'm calling you out as horse puckey that you ever was a member of the Russian Naval Infantry.

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              • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                Then, I'm calling you out as horse puckey that you ever was a member of the Russian Naval Infantry.
                Why? Because I never shot anything? Well, I've never been to combat. Lucky me, as far as I am concerned. Like I said, I am fine with shooting enemy soldiers. Though I'd still not brag about it. Why does the fact that I don't like taking life make me somehow a bad person? Or a coward? Or not man enough for you? You think all of Russian military are Specnaz Rembo guys? Most of them are 18 year old conscripts, kids who have never held a gun in their hands before. Maybe once upon a time, in the great Soviet Union, the Naval Infantry was a tough, strong force of good men. Today, it is conscripted, same any all other branches, same even as Airborne. Do you know why Russia did not intervene in the situation in Kyrgyzstan awhile back? Because she had no good troops to send, okay? Only those same 18 year old boys, who were caught on the street by police and dragged into a conscription office by the collar; and who would have got themselevs killed there, for nothing. You want the truth? The truth is, modern Russian military is a ****ing joke. That is the truth.

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                • Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                  Why? Because I never shot anything?
                  Because you professed to be a member of an invite only brigade. For that, certain behaviour is expected.

                  Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                  Well, I've never been to combat. Lucky me, as far as I am concerned. Like I said, I am fine with shooting enemy soldiers. Though I'd still not brag about it. Why does the fact that I don't like taking life make me somehow a bad person? Or a coward? Or not man enough for you?
                  No, not a coward, not someone who is not brave but also you're not the type of person who professed to be a member of an invite only regiment. In order to be part of the Naval Infantry, you have to be invited in and therefore, you have to be qualified. Not being able to cook dinner with live chickens (or snakes or rabbits or squirrels) would definitely preclude you from an invite only regiment.

                  I will leave the rest aside but for you to assume membership in an elite reigment and then to tell me you couldn't twist a chicken neck ... well, go twist a chicken necks and learn how to cook.

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                  • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                    Because you professed to be a member of an invite only brigade. For that, certain behaviour is expected.

                    No, not a coward, not someone who is not brave but also you're not the type of person who professed to be a member of an invite only regiment. In order to be part of the Naval Infantry, you have to be invited in and therefore, you have to be qualified. Not being able to cook dinner with live chickens (or snakes or rabbits or squirrels) would definitely preclude you from an invite only regiment.

                    I will leave the rest aside but for you to assume membership in an elite reigment and then to tell me you couldn't twist a chicken neck ... well, go twist a chicken necks and learn how to cook.
                    The Naval Infantry you are describing has not existed for 20 years. I am telling you that, and it is the truth. Anyway, I am off to sleep. It ahs been good talking with you. I learned mch today, thanks.

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                    • Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                      The Naval Infantry you are describing has not existed for 20 years. I am telling you that, and it is the truth. Anyway, I am off to sleep. It ahs been good talking with you. I learned mch today, thanks.
                      Do you really want me to ask the Naval Infantry Captain who served in the Gerogian War to weigh in on this?

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                      • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                        Do you really want me to ask the Naval Infantry Captain who served in the Gerogian War to weigh in on this?
                        Do what you must. Ask him his opinion about the performance in Georgia in 2008. Most officers I've talked to agreed all branches did a terrible job there.

                        For me, yes, I was 'invited', as you put it. Why? Because the officer in charge of the unit where I was 'invited' was a old friend of my father. And I am not the only one like that there. I am sorry, it is the truth.

                        Anyway, good night.

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                        • Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                          Do what you must.
                          I don't think I need to. He is flagged to read this.

                          Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                          Ask him his opinion about the performance in Georgia in 2008. Most officers I've talked to agreed all branches did a terrible job there.
                          I wonder to whom. Most of us who analyized the war agreed that the Russians have demonstrated tactical and technological weaknesses but they have lost nothing on the operational arts.

                          Originally posted by SA2003 View Post
                          For me, yes, I was 'invited', as you put it. Why? Because the officer in charge of the unit where I was 'invited' was a old friend of my father. And I am not the only one like that there. I am sorry, it is the truth.
                          I will let the good Captain deal with this. It is his regiment after all.

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                          • I fairness SA2003, the sorts of posters who I have seen bragging about belonging to elite units in the past haven't then turned around and said "actually those units are crap and I only got in because of my Dad". That admission would defeat his purpose if he was just trying to be an internet Rambo. Besides which, the story is too obtuse to be likely to be made up ... unless he has an admirable imagination.
                            "There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher

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                            • The kid went on and on about Cossack pride and how they were taught AK47s from age 6 and then proceed to say he was a member of the Naval Infantry without ever having to kill a chicken? His Cossack heritage would have forced him to at least do a chicken.

                              The good Captain was tasked to the Georgian War and he is an able officer. He would never tolerate men who are not combat capable.

                              This kid's presentation just smacks against of what I learned about the good Captain.

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                              • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                                The kid went on and on about Cossack pride and how they were taught AK47s from age 6
                                And he also said, explicitly, that he was raised away from all that. Regrettably.

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