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Guess what I saw on my drive through Scotland?
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Can't wait to see her on the high seas!Originally posted by gunnut View Post“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.” -
Hopefully, she and her sister ship POW have long service lives and don't end up 'paid off' or sold off before their time.Comment
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be nice if the HMS Prince of Wales is a CATOBAR carrier, will make her much more "useful" in the real world..Comment
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I believe all plans of CATOBAR have been abandoned at this point due to cost and time constraints. ( https://fullfact.org/articles/how_do..._carrier-27178) I am curious as to why the have separated the flight ops and ship's navigation into two different island superstructures. It seems like a waste of deck space unless something else in the ship's structure dictated it.Comment
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One story I heard that they were blaming the gas turbine locations for the ducting, each island has an exhaust funnel.Comment
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I assume the flight ops tower is the one aft? The other one can't see both elevators.Comment
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Originally posted by DonBelt View PostJlvr, correct.Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
I guess you could call it design and intended use philosophies.
The reason for 2 islands, flight ops and conn, is to maximize the utility of both.
Charles de Gaulle has hers quite a ways forward, which is excellent for navigation.
The USN carrier islands, trying to maximize flight deck control, have been marching steadily aft, class after class.
The USN carriers are hauling around the largest airgroups by far, so flight deck control for high sortie generation is paramount
(The Ford-class has taken this to the logical extreme of course)“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”Comment
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It looks like it has a lot of deck space, especially when you look from overhead- but you can never have too much deck space.Comment
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Is it just me, or does that picture also show the majority of the UKs sub fleet tied up?Comment
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Modern western subs are sooo hard to ID...Comment
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I think four of the subs are decommissioned boomers (Resolution Class).Last edited by surfgun; 08 Dec 15,, 12:41.Comment
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Correct, and the other three on the left are Dreadnought, Churchill and SwiftsureOriginally posted by surfgun View Post“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”Comment
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A nice comparison between Queen Elizabeth and Illustrious
“He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”Comment
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