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  • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    (on 25 July 2014)

    WASHINGTON — The littoral combat ship USS Coronado will get a chance at an historic LCS first this fall when it launches a surface-to-surface missile in tests off Southern California. The Navy confirmed this week that the Coronado is scheduled to test-launch the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) off Point Mugu, California, where the Naval Air Warfare Center maintains an extensively-instrumented missile range...
    Some recent news about that:

    USS Coronado Performs Live-Fire Test of Norwegian Strike Missile

    23 September 2014

    Naval Surface Force U.S. Pacific Fleet Public Affairs

    PACIFIC OCEAN – The crew of the littoral combat ship USS Coronado (LCS 4) successfully performed a live-fire demonstration of a Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) during missile testing operations off the coast of Southern California, Sept. 23.

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    During the test, the Norwegian-made Kongsberg NSM was launched from the deck of Coronado and scored a direct hit on its intended target, a Mobile Ship Target (MST).

    The Kongsberg NSM is a long range precision strike missile designed to be launched from a variety of ships against a variety of targets.

    Testing took place on board the Navy’s newest littoral combat ship to show the LCS’ ability to readily accept new weapons systems as part of the Foreign Comparative Testing (FCT) program.

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    “We are extremely pleased with the outcome of today’s test on board Coronado,” said Vice Adm. Thomas S. Rowden, Commander, Naval Surface Forces. “We view this successful missile test as a possible future warfighting capability for the LCS program.”

    Rowden said the Navy is interested in increasing both quantity of firepower and range across the surface fleet.

    “Both classes of the LCS are based on modular design concepts,” said Rowden. “This allows for the integration of weapons and sensors like the Kongsberg NSM technology as part of the LCS warfare suite.”

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    Since 1980, the FCT program has helped the United States and allies reap substantial savings by avoiding research and development costs, lowering procurement costs, reducing risk for major acquisition programs and accelerating the fielding of equipment critical to the reading and safety of operating forces.

    Commissioned on April 4, 2014, Coronado was designed to be high-speed, shallow draft multi-mission ship capable of operating independently or with an associated strike group. LCS ships are designed to defeat growing littoral threats and provide access and dominance in coastal waters.

    A fast, maneuverable, and networked surface combatant, LCS provides the required warfighting capabilities and operational flexibility to execute focused missions such as surface warfare, mine warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

    LCS delivers combat capability from core self-defense systems in concert with interchangeable, modular mission packages and an open architecture command and control system. Modularity maximizes the flexibility of LCS and enables the ship to meet changing warfare needs, while also supporting rapid technological updates. LCS employs advanced tactical networks to share information with aircraft, ships, submarines, and joint and coalition units both at sea and shore.

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    (Sept. 23, 2014) - The crew of the littoral combat ship USS Coronado (LCS 4) successfully performed a live-fire demonstration of a Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) during missile testing operations off the coast of Southern California, Sept. 23. During the test, the Norwegian-made Kongsberg NSM was launched from the deck of Coronado and scored a direct hit on its intended target, a Mobile Ship Target (MST). (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Zachary D. Bell/Released)
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    • Testing took place on board the Navy’s newest littoral combat ship to show the LCS’ ability to readily accept new weapons systems as part of the Foreign Comparative Testing (FCT) program.

      I'm glad the missile hit its target, but "readily accept?" Looks like it was launched out of Rube Goldberg temporary box launcher positioned all the way aft on Coronado's flight deck. How is that in any way "accepting" anything? Where is the launcher system that will not defeat what stealth capability the ship has, and then I'll be impressed.

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      • Originally posted by desertswo View Post
        Testing took place on board the Navy’s newest littoral combat ship to show the LCS’ ability to readily accept new weapons systems as part of the Foreign Comparative Testing (FCT) program.

        I'm glad the missile hit its target, but "readily accept?" Looks like it was launched out of Rube Goldberg temporary box launcher positioned all the way aft
        By this definition, any cargo ship can become a warship. Just slap a few missile containers on top... and it won't cost $400 million...

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        • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
          By this definition, any cargo ship can become a warship. Just slap a few missile containers on top... and it won't cost $400 million...
          It would not be the first time such "missile barns" have been considered.

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          • Originally posted by desertswo View Post
            It would not be the first time such "missile barns" have been considered.
            I knew I was thinking of something when I wrote that...

            Missiles in a box

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            • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
              I knew I was thinking of something when I wrote that...

              Missiles in a box
              That seems like a great way to make every non-allied merchant vessel in the conflict area a legitimate target for the USN. Thanks Russia!

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              • Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
                That seems like a great way to make every non-allied merchant vessel in the conflict area a legitimate target for the USN. Thanks Russia!
                Legitimate target is one identified as "bad guy" (as opposed to "that one looks like it"). What would the USN do, start firing on everyone? Like you don't have enough people pissed at the US allready...

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                • Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
                  That seems like a great way to make every non-allied merchant vessel in the conflict area a legitimate target for the USN. Thanks Russia!
                  Steve, they didn't think of it first. It was us. We'd paint it gray though, and commission it either as a USS or USNS, and put a combatant detachment on board to do the missile thing. We also weren't going to use storage containers either. There would have been legitimate VLS built back fitted into the ship. The idea was that the missiles would be controlled by a CG or DDG that acted as the engagement controller in a variation of the Cooperative Engagement Concept theme. It would carry both Tomahawk or a follow-on land attack missile, and whatever Standard Missile is the current rage air defense-wise. I don't think the idea is dead either. The folks at NAVSEA and NAVOP N86 are always thinking of cheaper ways to do business.
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                  • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
                    Legitimate target is one identified as "bad guy" (as opposed to "that one looks like it"). What would the USN do, start firing on everyone? Like you don't have enough people pissed at the US allready...
                    This was an issue during the Cold War, with one scenario that had the US and the Soviets in the early stages of a shooting war, but neither the rest of NATO nor the other Warsaw Pact nations jumping in just yet. Do we sink a Polish or East German freighter if they are in the area? It was known that they were all capable of providing at least rudimentary targeting data, and some far more than that. As I recall, if a US unit suspected that they might be giving tipper information, they were going to the bottom for the greater glory of the motherland and socialist society.

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                    • Something like this would probably help

                      Z0357Z15JUNE
                      FR: SACLANT
                      TO: ALL SACLANT SHIPS
                      TOP SECRET
                      1. EXECUTE UNRESTRICTED AIR AND SEA WARFARE AGAINST WARSAW PACT FORCES.
                      2. WARPLAN GOLF TAC 7.
                      3. STOUT HEARTS. SACLANT SENDS
                      Last edited by TopHatter; 30 Sep 14,, 23:10.
                      “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                      • Originally posted by desertswo View Post
                        This was an issue during the Cold War, with one scenario that had the US and the Soviets in the early stages of a shooting war, but neither the rest of NATO nor the other Warsaw Pact nations jumping in just yet. Do we sink a Polish or East German freighter if they are in the area? It was known that they were all capable of providing at least rudimentary targeting data, and some far more than that. As I recall, if a US unit suspected that they might be giving tipper information, they were going to the bottom for the greater glory of the motherland and socialist society.
                        Or one can study german WWI and WWII commerce raiders, "cargo" ships stuffed full of guns and torpedoes...

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                        • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                          Something like this would probably help
                          Red Storm Rising?

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                          • Originally posted by JA Boomer View Post
                            Red Storm Rising?
                            That's affirmative
                            “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                            • Full text available at this link.
                              Below is excerpted from the first page.


                              OPNAV INSTRUCTION 3501.352A

                              From: Chief of Naval Operations

                              Subj: REQUIRED OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES AND PROJECTED
                              OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENT FOR THE LITTORAL COMBAT SHIP


                              Ref:

                              (a) OPNAVINST C3501.2K (NOTAL)

                              (b) Navy Mission Essential Task List

                              (c) Navy Tactical Reference Publication 1-03.5


                              Encl:

                              (1) Projected Operational Environment (POE) for Littoral
                              Combat Ships (LCS)

                              (2) Operational Mission Areas and Readiness Conditions
                              for Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

                              (3) Required Operational Capabilities (ROC) for Littoral
                              Combat Ship (LCS) Squadron

                              (4) Required Operational Capabilities (ROC) for Littoral
                              Combat Ship (LCS) Class Ships with Core Crew Only

                              (5) Required Operational Capabilities (ROC) for Littoral
                              Combat Ship (LCS) Class Ships with Antisubmarine
                              Warfare (ASW) Mission Package (MP)

                              (6) Required Operational Capabilities (ROC) for Littoral
                              Combat Ship (LCS) Class Ships with Mine Warfare
                              (MIW) Mission Package (MP)

                              (7) Required Operational Capabilities (ROC) for Littoral
                              Combat Ship (LCS) Class Ships with Surface Warfare
                              (SUW) Mission Package (MP)


                              1. Purpose.

                              To issue the required operational capabilities (ROC) and the projected operational environment (POE) for the littoral combat ship (LCS)...
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                              • A fast, maneuverable, and networked surface combatant, LCS provides the required warfighting capabilities and operational flexibility to execute focused missions such as surface warfare, mine warfare and anti-submarine warfare.

                                LCS delivers combat capability from core self-defense systems in concert with interchangeable, modular mission packages and an open architecture command and control system. Modularity maximizes the flexibility of LCS and enables the ship to meet changing warfare needs, while also supporting rapid technological updates. LCS employs advanced tactical networks to share information with aircraft, ships, submarines, and joint and coalition units both at sea and shore.
                                Yep, time out guys we have to put back to port to change our modular mission package but we will be right back. We came to the table with the wrong one, sorry.

                                I'd rather have a new frigate.

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