land attack precisions weapons=small boxes of netfires missiles
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She can pretty much be outfitted for several different missions. RAM is only a portable armament. It is not mission dependant and can be changed anytime they wish while in port or dry dock. So long as they protect the deck and superstructure with blast shielding they could also possibly mount Harpoons as well. All weight dependant. We should also keep in mind her purpose, rivers and waterways primarily. Hence the rapid fire guns.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostThe new 127 meter long Independence Class LCS will provide a platform for intelligence gathering, employ surface (anti-ship) and land attacks precision weapons, and operate manned and unmanned aerial and surface vehicles (UAV/USV).
Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostShe can pretty much be outfitted for several different missions. RAM is only a portable armament. It is not mission dependant and can be changed anytime they wish while in port or dry dock. So long as they protect the deck and superstructure with blast shielding they could also possibly mount Harpoons as well. All weight dependant. We should also keep in mind her purpose, rivers and waterways primarily. Hence the rapid fire guns.
How in the hell are you going to sail a 115-127 meter long ship up a river?
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Originally posted by JA Boomer View PostRight, but as has been mentioned this is the NLOS missile system. Probably more than capable of destroyer small boats and non-hardened land targets, but not much good against a real warship. That's not her real mission though, fair enough, but again, what's the status of the NLOS system? Is the Navy going to continue development now that Future Combat Systems has been scrapped?
Harpoons would be useful. Still no ESSM which I think is a big flaw in these designs. I suppose you could mount a Mk 48 launcher similar to what we have on the Halifax-class, but the Mk 41 isn't exactly a system you can plug in and out.
How in the hell are you going to sail a 115-127 meter long ship up a river?
*How you ask? Look at her sea trials and you will see just how agile the ship is. It has gas turbine/diesel and water jets to assist in manuvering.;)Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by JA Boomer View PostHow in the hell are you going to sail a 115-127 meter long ship up a river?You know JJ, Him could do it....
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Did someone from here edit the wiki page for the LCS-2?
USS Independence (LCS-2) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is the armament listed and of course there are no sources. Who the hell added all of this? 2 CIWS???
* BAE Systems Mk 110 57 mm gun[2]
* 4× .50-cal guns (2 aft, 2 forward)
* Evolved SeaRAM 11 cell missile launcher
* 32 missile Vertical Launch System
* 8 Harpoon missiles
* 2 Close-in Weapons Systems
* 6 ASW Torpedoes
* Mission modules
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Originally posted by MatthewS3522 View PostDid someone from here edit the wiki page for the LCS-2?
USS Independence (LCS-2) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is the armament listed and of course there are no sources. Who the hell added all of this? 2 CIWS???
* BAE Systems Mk 110 57 mm gun[2]
* 4× .50-cal guns (2 aft, 2 forward)
* Evolved SeaRAM 11 cell missile launcher
* 32 missile Vertical Launch System
* 8 Harpoon missiles
* 2 Close-in Weapons Systems
* 6 ASW Torpedoes
* Mission modules
*Hint, never trust Wiki for accuracy, even Navsource does not list her armament and needless to say Wiki couldnt hold a candle to Navsource when it comes to accuracy. Its no doubt wrong.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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This is all (armament) that Navsource lists at the moment for LCS-2 Independence:
Bofors 57mm naval gun
Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) launcher
3 - .50-caliber machine gun mounts
*No mention of torps, VLS, Harpoons or Phaylynx.
*The rest of the armament would cause massive weight gain alone, change the draft of the ship and reduce its sprint speeds of 50+ knots..Last edited by Dreadnought; 06 Oct 09,, 19:15.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by DreadnoughtOne major thing to keep in mind is that she is aluminum and steel, when aluminum burns (say from rocket propellant) it releases chlorine gas. Not a good thing.I enjoy being wrong too much to change my mind.
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Originally posted by ArmchairGeneral View PostHuh? When aluminum burns on its own it releases nothing but heat and aluminum oxide.Last edited by Dreadnought; 07 Oct 09,, 13:35.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Her Aluminum-heavy construction is a major drawback for the Independence. Regardless of what it releaseses when it burns, it still burns. One would think the USN learned it's lesson after the Belknap disaster - something caused by human error, not combat.
Attached FilesYou know JJ, Him could do it....
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Originally posted by Rumrunner View PostHer Aluminum-heavy construction is a major drawback for the Independence. Regardless of what it releaseses when it burns, it still burns. One would think the USN learned it's lesson after the Belknap disaster - something caused by human error, not combat.
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