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  • The current image shows CV-59 is gone and they are working on Saratoga, Ranger and Constellation.
    Last edited by surfgun; 18 May 16,, 14:30.

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    • Ah, you caught it as the email alert had Indy which is still in Bremerton.

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      • The forward sponsons gave it away.
        I forgot the CV-61 also had the the updated forward waist elevator as did CV-62 that would make an aircraft launch more safe (with a lowered elevator) than ever attempting a launch (with a lowered elevator) than the arrangement with the forward waist deck (a segment of deck forward of the elevator) arrangement on CV-59 and CV-60.
        Last edited by surfgun; 19 May 16,, 04:12.

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        • Looks like to the department of the interior is getting into the historic ship business-

          Representative Culberson also offered an amendment to the NDAA legislation, which was adopted by voice vote, to preserve our nation’s historic battleships. The amendment creates a competitive grant program within the Department of the Interior to maintain historic battleships, like the USS Texas.

          “These historic battleships played an important role in America’s success in World War I and II. These battleships are floating museums that stand as a memorial to the bravery and sacrifice of the servicemen that fought on them. This amendment ensures that those battleships can be preserved so that we never lose these national treasures,” Rep. Culberson stated.

          For text of Representative Culberson’s amendment, click here.

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          • Originally posted by Archdude View Post
            Looks like to the department of the interior is getting into the historic ship business-

            Representative Culberson also offered an amendment to the NDAA legislation, which was adopted by voice vote, to preserve our nation’s historic battleships. The amendment creates a competitive grant program within the Department of the Interior to maintain historic battleships, like the USS Texas.

            “These historic battleships played an important role in America’s success in World War I and II. These battleships are floating museums that stand as a memorial to the bravery and sacrifice of the servicemen that fought on them. This amendment ensures that those battleships can be preserved so that we never lose these national treasures,” Rep. Culberson stated.

            For text of Representative Culberson’s amendment, click here.
            As it turns out only the USS Texas & USS North Carolina qualify because the ships have to be commissioned between 1901 and 1941 and the ship has to be in the state it's named for, so unfair.
            This amendment seems deliberately crafted to NOT include the Iowa class.

            For text of Representative Culberson’s amendment.
            http://culberson.house.gov/uploadedf..._ndaa_amdt.pdf
            Craig Johnson

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            • Thought so. I didn't read the amendment yet, but did figure the Representative to be from Texas. Therefore, he would be angling to protect the Texas and slip one by and not include the others even though he uses battleship(s) plural. In my book it is either all or none and that means all museum ships. Of course, it also leaves out one ship that is most deserving of help but which doesn't fit the criteria of between 1901-1941 and being a battleship. The protected cruiser Olympia.

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              • Originally posted by Archdude View Post
                Looks like to the department of the interior is getting into the historic ship business-

                Representative Culberson also offered an amendment to the NDAA legislation, which was adopted by voice vote, to preserve our nation’s historic battleships. The amendment creates a competitive grant program within the Department of the Interior to maintain historic battleships, like the USS Texas.

                “These historic battleships played an important role in America’s success in World War I and II. These battleships are floating museums that stand as a memorial to the bravery and sacrifice of the servicemen that fought on them. This amendment ensures that those battleships can be preserved so that we never lose these national treasures,” Rep. Culberson stated.

                For text of Representative Culberson’s amendment, click here.
                Archdude, I have to thank you for your post because no one on the Iowa had heard about this until I passed it along.
                The effect has been that all our local and federal representatives are all informed and no one knew about the NDAA amendment and they are not very happy that the Iowa's where excluded.
                I don't know if anything will come of this but never hurts to try and without all the great info & people on this site I never would have heard of this, so thanks all.
                Craig Johnson

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                • Retired frigates to be target of live-fire tests at RIMPAC exercise

                  by: William Cole | .Stripes Japan | .published: June 28, 2016
                  HONOLULU (Tribune News Service) — The retired frigate USS Thach will be sunk during Rim of the Pacific war games in July from fire including the first Harpoon missile shot from a littoral combat ship, a type of U.S. warship being deployed regularly to Singapore and the volatile South China Sea.

                  The Navy originally wanted 52 of the now controversial littoral combat ships, which were touted for their speed and shallow draft for operations in near-shore environments against pirates, mines and diesel submarines.

                  With the rise of China, however, concerns were raised about the ships’ armor and lethality, and the Pentagon reduced the total and is seeking a more robust frigate as a replacement.

                  While in Hawaii, the littoral combat ship USS Coronado will test the greater lethality of a Harpoon missile, which has the capability of destroying enemy ships 100 miles away, the Navy said. The Navy is seeking to arm all of its LCSs with over-the-horizon missiles.

                  Two variants of the LCS are being built: Freedom and Independence. The Coronado, out of San Diego, is an unusual-looking, all-aluminum trimaran design. After RIMPAC the ship will make the first Independence-variant LCS deployment to Singapore.

                  Also to be sunk during RIMPAC is the former Pearl Harbor frigate USS Crommelin, the Navy said. Crommelin, commissioned in 1983, was retired at Pearl Harbor in late 2012. The Thach was decommissioned in late 2013 after 29 years of naval service.

                  The sink exercises, or “sinkexes,” are a rare opportunity for RIMPAC participants to unleash on retired warships some of the costly firepower navies usually only get to simulate firing.

                  Two years ago during RIMPAC, ships, a submarine and aircraft fired a fusillade at the retired 569-foot amphibious transport dock ship USS Ogden 63 miles northwest of Kauai.

                  The South Korean submarine Lee Sun Sin fired a Harpoon missile; the Norwegian frigate Fridtjof Nansen launched Naval Strike and Evolved SeaSparrow missiles; the Pearl Harbor-based cruiser USS Chosin fired a Harpoon; F/A-18 and P-3 aircraft also fired missiles; and Hawaii Air National Guard F-22 Raptors fired 20 mm cannons.

                  An Air Force B-52 bomber even dropped a GBU-12 laser-guided bomb onto the Ogden, the Navy said.

                  Ships are sunk in waters at least 6,000 feet deep and at least 57 miles from land, and only after the area has been surveyed for marine mammals, the Navy previously said. The ocean is about 15,000 feet deep where the Ogden was sunk. A second sinkex in 2014 involved the retired USS Tuscaloosa, a 522-foot tank landing ship.

                  Twenty-seven nations were to participate in RIMPAC, which starts Thursday and wraps up Aug. 4 mostly around the Hawaiian Islands but also in Southern California. Brazil has dropped out, however, leaving 26 nations.

                  Four multinational groups are sailing toward Hawaii. The amphibious assault ship USS America left San Diego on Tuesday leading the USS San Diego and USS Howard, Canadian ship HMCS Vancouver and Chilean ship CNS Coch- rane, said the Navy’s 3rd Fleet in San Diego, which plans RIMPAC.

                  The USS Princeton departed San Diego on Wednesday with the USS Pinckney, the Coast Guard cutter Stratton and Canadian ship HMCS Calgary. The USS Coronado also left San Diego on Wednesday.

                  The Singaporean ship RSS Steadfast is sailing with the Japanese ship JS Hyuga, Indonesian ship KRI Diponegoro, Indian ship INS Satpura and the destroyer USS Chung-Hoon out of Pearl Harbor.

                  The USS Stockdale and USS William P. Lawrence met up with the Chinese vessels Hengshui, Peace Ark, Xian, Gaoyouhu and Changdao on June 18 in the western Pacific. China reported the ships are expected to reach Pearl Harbor on Wednesday.


                  http://japan.stripes.com/news/retire...impac-exercise

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                  • Sinkex at RIMPAC of FFG Thatch, one tough cookie!

                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXk8JAQ-370

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                    • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
                      Sinkex at RIMPAC of FFG Thatch, one tough cookie!

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXk8JAQ-370

                      Was the torpedo war time strength? During WWII we had numerous of our Destroyers and some Cruisers getting their bows blown off with one Long Lance.

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                      • Sinkex ....

                        I suspect the lack of secondary explosions and the ship in Condition "X" had something to contribute to the exercise.
                        In addition one would not desire a total kill on the first attempt. What would all the other guys shoot at?
                        Note the flight deck at the aft of the ship about 1:31 , some major bad displayed!

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                        • Video: sinkex FFG Crommelin.

                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmzLumEYpk0

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                          • What am I seeing I thought to myself?
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                            • Is that? Could that? Yes, it is. It is the Hughes Mining Barge (HMB) from decades past minus the Sea Shadow. I don't know what happened with the picture as it was the only one to turn out this way out of 30 around NAS Alameda.
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                              • The hammer just dropped on the last standing Forrestal class carrier. The article further indicates Kitty Hawk is on museum hold.

                                Recycler wins Navy contract to scrap USS Independence

                                BY STEVE CLARK | STAFF WRITER
                                The decommissioned USS Independence, the last of the Forrestal-class of aircraft carriers that plied the seas from the 1950s to the 1990s, will begin its final voyage to Brownsville later this year.
                                International Shipbreaking Ltd., part of the EMR Group, won a U.S. Navy bid to tow the mothballed 61,000-ton “supercarrier” from the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Wash., to the Port of Brownsville for dismantling.
                                Robert Berry, the company’s vice president, said the vessel will require two months of preparation for the 4 1/2-month tow from Bremerton around the tip of South America to Brownsville.
                                Preparations include the installation of towing gear and an alarm system that alerts the tug captain if the ship takes on water, plus a thorough inspection of the ship to make sure it’s safe for towing, though “the Navy keeps its vessels in pretty good condition,” Berry said.
                                “This is actually a good time of year to be towing ... because we’ll be at the tip of South America in mid-summer;” he said. “It’s better weather.”
                                The USS Independence, the last Forrestal-class carrier to be built, was launched from the Brooklyn Navy Yard on June 6, 1958, commissioned on Jan. 10, 1959, and decommissioned on Sept. 30, 1998. It was the fifth Navy ship to bear the name “Independence.”
                                The vessel should arrive in Brownsville in late February or early to mid-March, Berry said. This will be International Shipbreaking’s third supercarrier: The company took delivery of the former USS Constellation, a Kitty Hawk-class carrier, in January 2015 and the former USS Ranger, a Forrestal-class carrier, in July 2015.
                                The decommissioned USS Forrestal itself was the first supercarrier to come to Brownsville for recycling. It and the Forrestal-class former USS Saratoga arrived at the port in 2014. Berry said the Constellation will be completely dismantled by the time the Independence arrives.
                                “Then we will have room,” he said. “We have room for two carriers in the yard.”
                                When scrap metal prices are high the Navy pays a nominal sum — such as one cent — to have a decommissioned ship towed and dismantled. When metal prices are low, like now, the cost goes up due to the substantial expenses incurred by the ship recycler.
                                The Navy agreed to pay International Shipbreaking around $6 million to tow and dismantle the Independence, Berry said.
                                While the Navy has placed former carriers USS Kitty Hawk, decommissioned in 2009, and USS John F. Kennedy, decommissioned in 2007, on “donation hold” for use as museums or memorials, the Navy has issued a Request for Proposals for the USS Enterprise. Berry said his company hopes to land that contract as well.
                                “It’s the first nuclear carrier — quite historic,” he said. “They’re defueling it as we speak.”
                                Berry said that when the firm lands a major Navy contract he gets dozens of calls from veterans who served aboard the particular vessel and hope to purchase mementos. It turns out that International Shipbreaking does sells pieces of the big ships on eBay. Interested parties can get information from www.internationalshipbreaking.com.
                                “When these (news) articles come out my phone will go bonkers,” Berry said.


                                http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/pre...b165f4298.html

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