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  • Although this thread seems to concentrate on the current status of the "Ghost Fleet," these two articles have some fascinating insight to the post WWII effort to lay up the fleet built between 1939 and 1945. Part two goes into some considerable detail on the "how".

    The sheer size of the WWII US Navy is brought home when you consider that "In early November 1945, about six weeks after the surrender signing aboard USS Missouri, Congress outlined the first demobilization plan for the US Navy. A minimum of 33% of the fleet’s WWII manpower, about a million men, was to be out no later than 15 February 1946; and of this, 327,000 by Christmas 1945 and 865,000 by New Years Eve. By the end of April 1946, 50% of the wartime manpower would be out. By 1 September 1946, the process would be essentially completed with 3,000,000 WWII veterans mustered out, leaving about 490,000 on active duty in January 1947 including new sailors recruited in the meantime."

    The industrial effort is exemplified by escort carriers such as the USS Tinian (CVE-123). She "literally went cradle-to-grave in mothballs. Launched about 48 hours after the Japanese surrender, USS Tinian was completed with leftover wartime funds and ran builder’s trials in early 1946. On 30 July 1946, the US Navy quietly declared the ship “accepted” without ceremony, and USS Tinian was sailed straight into the mothball fleet. The unused USS Tinian sat in reserve for a quarter-century before being scrapped in 1971, never having done anything."



    https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/...ter-wwii-pt-1/


    https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/...ter-wwii-pt-2/
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    • Second picture in first link is not Suisun but National City south of San Diego. I cruised past that location on a millionaire's yacht, captained by Adm.Gehres, in 1968. Many of the ships still there at the time.

      A cruiser selling for $67,288 back then. Increase that to today's money and we are talking a big number which the Navy has to pay the scrapper. How ironic.
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      • I love that website, it covers such a little-known part of WWII. The pictures alone are stunning.
        TwentyFiveFortyFive

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        • We had quite the Ghost Fleet here in Virginia for quite some time.

          At its height in 1950 the James River Reserve FLeet numbered over 800 vessels...their anchorage stretched almost all the way from Jamestown to Norfolk along the river's north shore.

          The photos below show some of the issues with storing vessels in a fairly high hurricane danger area.

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          I recall in AUG-SEP 1990 when we were trying to gear up for the Gulf War the US Maritime Administration tried to get some of these beasts moving to use in the sealift to Saudi. They had a hard time finding crews who could handle the steam plants...everyone was retired.

          It's now down to less than a dozen vessels...when I got here in 1989 there were almost 4 dozen there.

          And as for mothballing ships...my Dad came back from the Pacific in November 1945 and was assigned to Philly Navy Yard to do mothballing. He worked on the USS Augusta and some other famous vessels. He told the story of riding home to Boston for Christmas leave in 1945 while riding on the rear loading platform on a passenger train since the train was packed.

          Was in Philly in 2016 and saw Ticos, Spru-cans, OHPs, a couple of LPHs, and the JFK as well as another carrier.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • Ah, the good old days 10-20 years ago hunting for parts among the 110 ships that were out there.
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            • TBM, is that James River or another?

              Also, looking at the post card you posted and seeing those CVEs lined up...I wonder if that is where they filmed the Dirty Harry movie Magnum Force in the early 1970s. I remember they jumped from flight deck to flight deck in their police Harleys.
              “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
              Mark Twain

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              • AR, those shots are of Suisun Bay while on my way out to the various rows of ships.

                The scene in Magnum Force was filmed at the old Red Rock Marina just on the east side of the Richmond- San Rafael Bridge. Back in the day there was a dismantling operation there now long gone. Note the bridge in the background of the carriers. Next click on the link to see the same bridge and what is left of the piers.

                https://www.flickr.com/photos/397728...n/photostream/
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                • Cool!

                  Thanks Turkey!
                  “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                  Mark Twain

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                  • Charles F Adams (DDG-2) has departed Philadelphia heading to Brownsville, being towed by Rhea. I haven’t found any public info about the scrapyard getting her, price or any other ships sold yet.

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                    • Originally posted by ChrisV71 View Post
                      Charles F Adams (DDG-2) has departed Philadelphia heading to Brownsville, being towed by Rhea. I haven’t found any public info about the scrapyard getting her, price or any other ships sold yet.
                      The Adams' NVR entry has been updated to indicate she's heading to EMR/ISL in Brownsville. I still haven't found any public info on pricing, but the following ship's entries in the NVR also got updated on the same day (8/11/20) as the Adams, indicating they are also heading to EMR/ISL in Brownsville:

                      ex-Barry (DD-933)
                      ex-Ticonderoga (CG-47)
                      ex-Stephen Groves (FFG-29)
                      ex-Hawes (FFG-53)
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                      • Originally posted by ChrisV71 View Post
                        The Adams' NVR entry has been updated to indicate she's heading to EMR/ISL in Brownsville. I still haven't found any public info on pricing, but the following ship's entries in the NVR also got updated on the same day (8/11/20) as the Adams, indicating they are also heading to EMR/ISL in Brownsville:

                        ex-Barry (DD-933)
                        ex-Ticonderoga (CG-47)
                        ex-Stephen Groves (FFG-29)
                        ex-Hawes (FFG-53)
                        As a matter of fact, Ticonderoga just left Philadelphia and is sailing down the Delaware right now being towed by Miss Rui heading to Brownsville.
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                        • CG-47 video..
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                          • Visited the Civil War fort FORT Huger on the James River, near Smithfield, VA, on Sunday. The tree cover was heavy so I couldn't get a clear view but definitely some AOE's. No photos, unfortunately. Looked to be about 8 - 10 vessels.
                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • I remember seeing her across the pier in the early-mid '80s. Fine looking ship. I had no idea I was looking at the beginning of the end of steam.

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                              • Originally posted by ChrisV71 View Post
                                ...also heading to EMR/ISL in Brownsville:
                                ex-Barry (DD-933)
                                ex-Ticonderoga (CG-47)
                                ex-Stephen Groves (FFG-29)
                                ex-Hawes (FFG-53)
                                Nice little ASW surface warfare group, that could have been.
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