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  • 10.550 tons displacement!

    Dang, that's a big boat...bigger than the Burkes.
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    • Interesting that Germany is going for a significant step up in size. Is this just a response to Russia or is Germany expecting a change in mission types, possibly the context of a lesser US Navy presence?
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      • Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
        Interesting that Germany is going for a significant step up in size. Is this just a response to Russia or is Germany expecting a change in mission types, possibly the context of a lesser US Navy presence?
        The ships will functionally replace the (4500-ton) F123 ASW frigates, and don't really offer a capability set beyond those - other than the ice strengthening and making the ASW equipment modular, both to allow using them more flexibly.

        Basically just a ASW ship with towed array sonar, carrying helo and anti-submarine effectors, with a VLS for ESSM for "limited AAW escort" functionality.

        The size increase is due to the same factors as for F125, i.e. crew comfort (4-man cabins) and long sustained deployment capability (up to 24 months between homeporting, 68 months between yard time). With regard to that it's basically a F125 with an extra hull section to accomodate the necessary weapon systems.

        F127, the 2030s planned replacement for the German F124 Sachsen class and Dutch LCF De Zeven Provincien class, will be of similar "cruiser size" (probably a bit bigger) but will also likely actually have some different mission types and equipment than their forerunners.

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