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  • Originally posted by surfgun View Post
    "How many missiles you want?"
    "All of them!!"

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    • Shornet-play Indian style.
      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...he-indian-navy

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      • https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boe...jets-1.6262851

        Super Hornet is OUT.

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        • Originally posted by JA Boomer View Post
          Damned fishy here. Generally speaking, the larger the airframe, the better the procurement. The SUPERBUG has the room to fit more mid life upgrade gadgets than the GRIPEN. Given the HORNET is already in Canadian service, I cannot see one thing the GRIPEN can do the SUPERBUG cannot do and do better.

          And that leaves politics which BOEING managed to piss off Trudeau for the BOMBARDIER fiasco. This doesn't bode well for the F-35. Trudeau made a promise not to get this bird.
          Chimo

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          • So. what's left then? I've become lost... F-35, Typhoon, Rafale & Grippen, or is one of these out as well?...

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            • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
              So. what's left then? I've become lost... F-35, Typhoon, Rafale & Grippen, or is one of these out as well?...
              Only the F-35 and Gripen at this point.

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              • Originally posted by JA Boomer View Post

                Only the F-35 and Gripen at this point.
                Ah, right, thanks. If I remember correctly, there were some specifications on the communications systems required, to link up with NORAD? Can't be fun for non-US aircraft to compete with that in mind...

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                • Didn't necessary see it coming down to F-35 vs Gripen. Not sure how much cost plays a role in to evaluation, if it all.

                  Trudeau did pledge not to buy the F-35, but I feel like that may not matter anymore for the following reasons:
                  1) It was a long time ago, things change.
                  2) He can argue that what he really meant was that the Convervatives shouldn't have bought the F-35 without an exhaustive competition.
                  3) The economics of staying an F-35 parter while not buying it may not make sense.
                  4) He's unlikely to seek reelection (not many PMs go for the 4th mandate).

                  Regardless, I hope the RCAF is making the decision, and the government will support whatever decision they make.

                  If there was a fixed budget and we could get x-number more Gripens than F-35, that MAY sway me. But I'm rooting for the F-35 as the best platform for our aviators to do their job for the next 40 years.

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                  • One of the YouTube channels that I subscribe to has a pretty good video on the recent developments.

                    Supporting or defending Donald Trump is such an unforgivable moral failing that it calls every bit of your judgement and character into question. Nothing about you should be trusted if you can look at this man and find redeemable value

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                    • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                      One of the YouTube channels that I subscribe to has a pretty good video on the recent developments.

                      Yeah, saw that too. I'd forgotten about the upgrades to keep their F-18s flying. And I see he shares my oppinion on the new F-15. I wonder if Canada will rererboot the competion just to get that one in the list?...

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                      • No, it was BOEING who lost, not the SUPERBUG. One of the tenets of the bid was economic impact on Canada. BOEING's BOMBARDIER fiasco was an economic negative impact. Replacing the SUPERBUG with the MUD HEN won't change that.
                        Chimo

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