What is up with the F-35? Part II

[jlvfr]

If they would simply do what they are supposed to, Deadline weapon, show on 026 report order parts at 02 Priority shit would come in quick. If they still want to haul the howitzer around withing the "Training Area fine, but no use of public roads and follow degraded procedures oh yeah and commander takes responsibility by doing the whole Circle X thing on the 5988.

But... but... but that would mean they'd have to admit they'd fraked up!

[Albany Rifles]

But... but... but that would mean they'd have to admit they'd fraked up!

Step 1 in the Military Decision Making Process is.....Identify the problem. That would be a good start.

[Jimmy]

Step 1 in the Military Decision Making Process is.....Identify the problem. That would be a good start.

[xinhui]

Canada May Back Out of F-35 Purchase: Minister
Mar. 13, 2012 - 07:42PM |
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE | Comments

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F-35 test aircraft are seen at Naval Air Station Patuxent Aircraft, Md.
F-35 test aircraft are seen at Naval Air Station Patuxent Aircraft, Md. (Lockheed Martin)

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OTTAWA — Canada’s associate defense minister said on March 13 that one of the most ardent supporters of the F-35 program could back out of a multi-billion purchase of the fighter jets.

“We have not as yet discounted the possibility of backing out of the program,” Minister Julian Fantino, responsible for military procurement, was quoted as telling the House of Commons defense committee.

According to Canadian media, he said the government remains committed to buying the jet, but noted that no contract has been signed.

Fantino was not available to confirm the comments, which were widely interpreted as a step back from Ottawa’s clarion defense of the costly F-35 program.

The Joint Strike Fighter is supposed to form the backbone of the future U.S. air fleet and 11 other allied countries have joined the program.

But defense officials have struggled to keep costs under control, with each plane’s price tag doubling in real terms over the past decade.

Ottawa has budgeted Can$8.5 billion to buy 65 F-35 fighter jets plus another Can$7.5 billion for lifetime maintenance.

Last month, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his government would not spend more than this amount for new fighter jets, leaving open the possibility of scaling back the number of jets it buys to stay within budget.


Canada May Back Out of F-35 Purchase: Minister | Defense News | defensenews.com

[bonehead]

The f-35 program is running out of runway. Its getting close to either flying or will crash and burn spectacularly at the end of the pavement.

[jlvfr]

Canadians trying to get lower prices, maybe?

[jlvfr]

And the RN seems to be having cost problems with the carriers... again...
back to -B model?

Apparently, the redesign of the carrier may be too expensive... who knew?...

[ArtyEngineer]

And the RN seems to be having cost problems with the carriers... again...
back to -B model?

Apparently, the redesign of the carrier may be too expensive... who knew?...

What!!!!!! You mean a constant air of indecision and flipflopping between CATOBAR vs STOVL configuration is have a detrimental affect on those trying to design and cost estimate the damn thing!!!!!!! SHocker!!!!

Why do I see another "Case Study" in how NOT to do things in this situation.

Regards

Arty

[jlvfr]

My advice to the RN (and it's free!): get cats, buy Rafales. End of story ;)

[ArtyEngineer]

My advice to the RN (and it's free!): get cats, buy Rafales. End of story ;)

Id go with SHornets my self, because realistically, regardless of how good the Rafale is its just not going to happen.

Regards

Arty

[jlvfr]

Id go with SHornets my self, because realistically, regardless of how good the Rafale is its just not going to happen.

Yeah, getting the RN to buy "frog" fighters, specially with all the back-door snikering that must be going on?...

[merlin2]

Id go with SHornets my self, because realistically, regardless of how good the Rafale is its just not going to happen.

Regards

Arty

Five-Year Wait for New Fighter Jets (excerpt)

Well,it seems F-35 is not going anywhere before 2017 and realistically 2020 and beyond which means the project is doomed

RN's two new carriers without fighters on the deck? unthinkable. Super Hornet seems to be the best solution, forget the F-35 ..

[Stitch]

Id go with SHornets my self, because realistically, regardless of how good the Rafale is its just not going to happen.

Regards

Arty

COMPLETELY agree; proven technology, proven airframe, LOTS of room for upgrades, "battle-tested" in Libya (if you can call it that). Already have an "E" version of the super bug in production in the form of the F-18G, with two customers already buying the airframe. Hard to go wrong with that.

[Versus]

Id go with SHornets my self, because realistically, regardless of how good the Rafale is its just not going to happen.

Regards

Arty

All things considered I think you should start thinking of building your own aircraft. UK is an island and no matter how well integrated into the world economy and various alliances, that doesn't change the fact that you are an island nation.

[Blademaster]

All things considered I think you should start thinking of building your own aircraft. UK is an island and no matter how well integrated into the world economy and various alliances, that doesn't change the fact that you are an island nation.

And based on that, it would be hard to justify the cost for power projection forces if UK has very little interests abroad. Ironically, UK really wants to get out of Falklands because it is such a huge treasury drain for little benefit. UK is not getting anything from its Falkland islands. Brits are forever cursing the Argentinians for leading them into this predicament. They can't abandon their citizens but they can't afford to pay for that kind of defense in face of little or no return. Falklands hold no strategic value.