Originally posted by gangsta540i
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The exercise brought together leading fighter combat aircraft and aircrew and ground crew of both air forces. The USAF flew in F-15Cs, while the IAF was represented by Mirage 2000, Su-30K, MiG-27s and MiG-21 (upgraded).
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http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Im.../iafindex.html
India not allowed USAF to see MKI variant.
I want to see official declaration about involvement af Su-30MKI in India Cope 2004.
So, R-77E has a range greater than 31miles - about 160Km has R-77M variant, and earlier R-77 has 90Km, far greater than your 31miles.
R-77M has up to 160Km!
R-73 (first variant) has 30Km range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r73.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r77.htm
AMRAAM has only 50-70 km (30-45 miles) range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/amraam.htm
AIM-9 has 18 km (9.7 nm) range
AIM-9x (prototype) has like R-73 later variant 40Km range (but R-73 is in production from 90' and AIM-9X will be maybe after 5 years or earlier).
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/sidinder.htmLast edited by huh_what; 22 Sep 05,, 01:46.
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Originally posted by huh_whatThe exercise brought together leading fighter combat aircraft and aircrew and ground crew of both air forces. The USAF flew in F-15Cs, while the IAF was represented by Mirage 2000, Su-30K, MiG-27s and MiG-21 (upgraded).
from
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Im.../iafindex.html
India not allowed USAF to see MKI variant.
I want to see official declaration about involvement af Su-30MKI in India Cope 2004.
So, R-77E has a range greater than 31miles - about 160Km has R-77M variant, and earlier R-77 has 90Km, far greater than your 31miles.
R-77M has up to 160Km!
R-73 (first variant) has 30Km range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r73.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r77.htm
AMARAAM has only 50-70 km (30-45 miles) range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/amraam.htm
AIM-9 has 18 km (9.7 nm) range
AIM-9x (prototype) has like R-73 later variant 40Km range (but R-73 is in production from 90' and AIM-9X will be maybe after 5 years or earlier).
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/sidinder.htm
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Originally posted by huh_whatThe exercise brought together leading fighter combat aircraft and aircrew and ground crew of both air forces. The USAF flew in F-15Cs, while the IAF was represented by Mirage 2000, Su-30K, MiG-27s and MiG-21 (upgraded).
from
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Im.../iafindex.html
India not allowed USAF to see MKI variant.
I want to see official declaration about involvement af Su-30MKI in India Cope 2004.
So, R-77E has a range greater than 31miles - about 160Km has R-77M variant, and earlier R-77 has 90Km, far greater than your 31miles.
R-77M has up to 160Km!
R-73 (first variant) has 30Km range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r73.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/r77.htm
AMRAAM has only 50-70 km (30-45 miles) range.
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/amraam.htm
AIM-9 has 18 km (9.7 nm) range
AIM-9x (prototype) has like R-73 later variant 40Km range (but R-73 is in production from 90' and AIM-9X will be maybe after 5 years or earlier).
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/sidinder.htm
It doesn't matter how much range something has if it can't hit anything to start with.
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These computer tests dont mean jack ****.
12 SU-30s per 1 F-22?
2 SU-30 per 1 F-15?
SU-30 Is clearly superior to the F-15. The F-22 is also unproven in combat and has only a top speed of mach 1.8. I dont care that it can cruise at Mach 1 without having to go into burners. Top speed and climb rate still mean life or death in Air to Air combat; not the super agility of the SU series or anything like that. The plane with the speed and altitude wins 95 percent of the time.
and for god's sake, testing an aircraft's kill ratio on a damn PC, my god, this is real military hardwear that can be used at any moment in todays world, Not flying an ME109 of FW 190 around in IL2
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Originally posted by gangsta540iI'm worried about the malaysian aquisition of the sukhoi 30 mkm. I heard it has indian tecnologies in it and TVC and was wondering why they are offering it to other countries. I don't like the idea of other countries getting indian technology, and almost the same varient of fighter as india did and was wondering what you guys think about this.
My opinion is that the indians successfully created a really good plane and I think russia should sell a different varient to malaysia just like they did to china.
As for Malaysia vs Singapoore, Russian companies are happy to sell their fighters to both.
Idians did not create MKI. They did very important part of the design - set a clear goal and agreed to finance its implementation. However the rights for the aircraft and its design belong to Irkut Corporation which designed and MKI.
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Originally posted by indianguy4uAlso we have agreed to incorporate the techs made ourselves to be sold to malaysia. (vetrivale etc)
India makes money on this contract! and it owns
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Originally posted by RepublicanGuardThese computer tests dont mean jack ****.
12 SU-30s per 1 F-22?
2 SU-30 per 1 F-15?
SU-30 Is clearly superior to the F-15. The F-22 is also unproven in combat and has only a top speed of mach 1.8. I dont care that it can cruise at Mach 1 without having to go into burners. Top speed and climb rate still mean life or death in Air to Air combat; not the super agility of the SU series or anything like that. The plane with the speed and altitude wins 95 percent of the time.
and for god's sake, testing an aircraft's kill ratio on a damn PC, my god, this is real military hardwear that can be used at any moment in todays world, Not flying an ME109 of FW 190 around in IL2
It's just a simulation. But i guess if 1 F/A-22 can really down 12 Su-30s, other countries wouldn't be buying Russian planes. 'cause a squadron of F/A-22 can take out the entire Russian Air Force
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Originally posted by SuperFlanker"'cause a squadron of F/A-22 can take out the entire Russian Air Force."
Uhh...on what basis are you making this claim?
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