Eurofighter vs Su-30MKI

[Praxus]

... well ... I suppose, that it's about 20-30 km's?

The Russian R-77 have the 90km range engagement and have the active radar guided war-head (launch and forgot) ... just for the compare Very Happy Twisted Evil

.... the Russian the same type (IR guided missle) is the R-73 ... have all the last features, and even much better guidin' abilytis Twisted Evil

So could you bring me some example for R-77 compare? Twisted Evil

P.S. I have a nice reserve! Twisted Evil

16km-29km
The R-73 can not fire off bore the Python and the AIM-9X can.

The Meteor is going to go Mach 4 out to 140km, the R-77 is unacurate relitive to the AMRAAM.

[Mayh3M]

The Meteor is going to go Mach 4 out to 140km

.... What is the NATO index of this rocket?

the R-77 is unacurate relitive to the AMRAAM.

... ha-ha-ha-ha :D .... be serious man ... Russians can never copy US rocket technology's ... I have numerous number of events, when americans try to get rocket producing technology ....

... another thing, why do you decide, that R-77 unaccurate? :?: :-|

do you know even the characteristics of that rocket? :-|
This rocket is the best in the world for medium-ranges AA-missles! :G :D

As for the you "Meteor" analog, I could suggest the R-33E rocket with 120 km range of engagement or R-37 rocket with active radar guiding-head with 150 km range :) ... Also, there is R-27EA_M and R-27EM, wich also have active radar guiding system and range 120 km

[bigross86]

Yeah, but none of those missiles come close to the AIM-54C Phoenix. Range: at least 115 miles, the exact range is classified. For your information, 115 miles is over 185 kilometers.

[Mayh3M]

Yeah, but none of those missiles come close to the AIM-54C Phoenix. Range: at least 115 miles, the exact range is classified. For your information, 115 miles is over 185 kilometers.

... yes...the range is 184 km ... but it's the only rocket for big targets (onboard radar of all your fighters can't lock the target on the 184 km range, if this target have the not so big as B-52, but as like F-15) and far distance ... there is no rocket for fighter_vs_fighter battle, like mid-range R-27R, R-27T, R-77(80km, 80km, 90km) ... and there is the the R-27ER rocket with 170km range of engagement! :!: :)

[bigross86]

The AIM-54C can be launched into a basket of airspace and independently seek out targets. Plus the radar on the F-14D is one of the strongest fighter radars in the world. For Fighter vs Fighter just use the AIM-120C, The AIM-9M/X, the Shafrir, the Python, etc...

[Praxus]

.... What is the NATO index of this rocket?

It is just an EU Missile it is not a NATO one.

... ha-ha-ha-ha Very Happy .... be serious man ... Russians never copy US rocket technology's ... I have numerous number of events, when americans try to get rocket producing technology ....

... another thing, why do you decide, that R-77 unaccurate? Question Don't care

do you know even the characteristics of that rocket? Don't care
This rocket is the best in the world for medium-ranges AA-missles! Jumping Green Very Happy

As for the you "Meteor" analog, I could suggest the R-33E rocket with 120 km range of engagement or R-37 rocket with active radar guiding-head with 150 km range Smile ... Also, there is R-27EA_M and R-27EM, wich also have active radar guiding system and range 120 km

I didn't say it was inacurate I was just saying it is inacurate relitive to the AMRAAM which is a VERY acurate weapon.

Look up the word relitive in the dictionary you dumb rusky.

Oh and once the F/A-22 comes into full and active service there is nothing in the world that will be able to take it on. It can avoid detection by randomly hoping Electromagnetic frequencies on it's radar. Not to mention the general over all stealth features of the aircraft.

In tests in Great Britian the F/A-22 scored 10:1 kill to death ratio against Su-30MKK and 12:1 against Su-27.

[bigross86]

And now Mayh3m is gonna tell us that there is no F/A-22, the Russians DO have stealth and had it in the 1980's already, and will prove to us that Great Britian doesn't even exist. And of course the SU-30MKK and the SU-27 are the best planes in the world and can kick everyones a$$

[Mayh3M]

All your stealth's belong to Mayh3m.

[bigross86]

Tell me, little fu©kface, how do the radars detect stealth when even fighters with a visual can't detect it on radar?

[Praxus]

Your stealth technology have no chances against our last Anti-Air defence systems, like S-300 or S-450 ... you've spent 22 billions of dollars on "stealth-fighter" program, but all we have to do is to create a simple addition to all our radars which allows to spot those "stealthes" hundred miles away ...he-he-he ... you military developers had raved you again!

There are three ways to detect a Stealth Aircraft...

1.) Have radars scattered all over and network them to pick up the scattered signal
2.) Use IR and Optical Tracking
3.) To detect the Electromagnetic Radiation from it's radar

The first one we can't do anything about on the actual aircraft, because we will have to destroy them before we put the F/A-22's in there.

We will do this with a little toy called the X-45C which will come into service starting in 2008. These things only cost a few million have an extremely small RCS and IR signiture. It can carry 16 Small Diamiter Bombs(250lbs bombs) that can glide 40nm away from the aircraft on it's way to the target.

If 100 get shot down big whoop it is only about five hundred million to replace all of them. On top of that you don't have to pay the pilot hazard pay.

The IR can only be used when you the target is really close to you.

The F/A-22 has the ability to avoid Electromagnetic Radiation detection because it's radar can randomly hop frequencies making it hard to detect.

[Mistery Man]

The lie of communism has destroyed mother russia.... :(

[Praxus]

Simple soviet 1964 year radar systems can detect "stealth" planes. U.S. lost three stealth planes on Balkan war. They were destroed by simple, old soviet anti-air systems. Its is proved fact.

You have trouble reading don't you. How about you check out my post, aye?

We lost 1 actually not three you fukin retard. The radar didn't do jack because it can't detect it without networked radar stations.

[Bill]

"... yes...the range is 184 km ... but it's the only rocket for big targets (onboard radar of all your fighters can't lock the target on the 184 km range, if this target have the not so big as B-52, but as like F-15) and far distance ... there is no rocket for fighter_vs_fighter battle, like mid-range R-27R, R-27T, R-77(80km, 80km, 90km) ... and there is the the R-27ER rocket with 170km range of engagement!"

The AIM-54C SEALED ECCM is fully capable against manueving targets like fighters. It doesn't need to score direct hits thanks to it's 135lb warhead. That's a bigger warhead than an 8" artillery shell.....makes for quite the lethal blast radius.

Also, because of it's totally unique flight profile the AIM-54C is easily the hardest missile in the world to visually acquire for evasive manuevers.

The AIM-54C Sealed ECCM has a range of 130+ Nautical miles. That's well over 200 kilometers.

The APG-71 radar of the F-14D can detect fighter sized targets beyond 100 miles, and a HUGE RCS target like an SU-27 series well beyond 150 miles.

[troung]

“The Russian R-77 have the 90km range engagement and have the active radar guided war-head (launch and forgot) ... just for the compare”

31 miles head on for the R-77E.

“the Russian the same type (IR guided missle) is the R-73 ... have all the last features, and even much better guidin' abilytis”

PK of less then 25% so far.

“So could you bring me some example for R-77 compare?”

Out ranged by TC-2 and AIM-120. The MICA EM would have a larger envelop and snap up and snap down ability.

And the Chinese are building their SD-10 rather then buying more R-77Es, the only thing the SD-10 shares with the R-77E is the seeker and it looks more like an AIM-120. The reason they have the R-77E is becuase for now they have not fitted the SD-10 on thier Flankers and to get the seeker and datalink off the R-77E.

“there is the the R-27ER rocket with 170km range of engagement!”

70 miles using the R-27Rs worthless seeker. The R-27R has a PK of 0%.

[bigross86]

Isn't the AA-11 named the AMRAAMski or something like that?