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  • #61
    "why do ppl want b-52's? theyre archaic."

    Because they still do the job as well as anything around.

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    • #62
      a new british expeditionary air force

      my wish list assumes that there won't be enough money in the pot to build 4 large (80,000 ton) aircraft carriers.

      20 B2
      140 F-22
      160 F-15E
      160 Harrier (AMRAAM compatable) GR9 for RN and JHF
      60 AH-64

      40 Global Hawk
      20 E3 AWACS
      20 Nimrod

      60 C-130J
      40 AN-124
      80 Tankers
      80 Chinook
      120 Merlin

      the main emphasis being on strike/ground attack, strategic reconaisance and airlift capability.
      before criticizing someone, walk a mile in their shoes.................... then when you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Franco Lolan
        why is C5 not being produced any longer?
        Volga-Dnepr, a company, which was carrying US troops to Iraq on An-124, told me that C-5 Galaxy is too costly in operation and very inefficient as a transport aircraft despite its size..... that is why US Army hired Russian and Ukrainian airlines to transport their troops with Russian/Ukrainian An-124......

        ecomomics matter in recent times.....

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        • #64
          Originally posted by troung
          No one cares that I am here............


          :(Cry
          Chao anh troung. When I was in Vietnamese school, my name was Nghia.
          Last edited by Bluesman; 12 Dec 04,, 06:49.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Cjwinnit
            Touché, but you are 34 over ;)

            They are attrition replacements..

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            • #66
              My dream air force is:

              Primary Strike Aircrafts

              250 F-35
              250 Pak-fa
              250 Su-30Mki

              Secondary

              100 Mirage-2000\05
              100 F-16 Block-50
              100 Mig-29
              200 Lca

              40 Tu-160
              150 MCA

              100 Mi-35
              100 LCH
              100 Ka-50\52
              25 Lah

              30 Mi-26
              125 Mi-17
              50 ALH
              40 Chinook
              60 other transport helicopters ( if any one want to suggest)

              7 Falcon + 15 (Indian built Awacs after 7 years)
              30 Il-78 refuelers

              20 Mig-25
              25 P-3c Orion
              30 Tu-22 Backfire

              100 Predator
              100 Global Hawk
              100 Heron
              100 Nishant\Lakshya



              So my air force would be World's best Air Force.( My Air Force would be in accordance with IAF.)

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              • #67
                hello im new to this and it seems 2 yrs late. anyway so. . .


                1500 FA22
                750 F35
                250 f117
                250 B2
                250 b1
                750 FA18ef
                750 f35c
                1000 f14d
                400 kc135
                50 e767
                25 e3
                500 rah66
                75 pavelow
                25 e2

                who needs f15, fi6, f4

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                • #68
                  Hm, since I'm new, too: lets resurrect this thread.
                  I try to stick to the original 1000 airframes limit.
                  180 F-23
                  180 X-47C Pegasus UCAV
                  180 Mirage-2000-9
                  60 A-330 MRTT
                  60 A-400M
                  20 C-17
                  5 Wedgetail
                  15 P-8A
                  60 Mi-28N
                  180 EH-101

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                  • #69
                    Only planes?
                    No Pilot,bases,money,fuel,technicians,commanders etc

                    Oh may be all are UAC and UCAV's


                    We changed!!

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                    • #70
                      hmm lets see

                      200 f22-raptors
                      200 su30MKI
                      200 mig-29
                      100 b52
                      100 assorted planes for diff things like recce,awacs,anti-sub etc
                      100 bombers like tu-22 backfire,tu-160,b2 etc
                      50 f-177a
                      45 jaguars
                      5- star trek cruisers

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Aurel
                        Hm, since I'm new, too: lets resurrect this thread.
                        I try to stick to the original 1000 airframes limit.
                        180 F-23
                        180 X-47C Pegasus UCAV
                        180 Mirage-2000-9
                        60 A-330 MRTT
                        60 A-400M
                        20 C-17
                        5 Wedgetail
                        15 P-8A
                        60 Mi-28N
                        180 EH-101
                        Hello Aurel,

                        As one of the previous replies says you really cant have only a puny 1000 aircraft.
                        That wouldn't do much really.



                        To prove my point here is what Captain C said

                        "If all you get is 1000 aircraft you are a third rate airforce IMHO. To be truly world dominating and entirely capable of devastation on a massive basis I would like the following:
                        Airforce:

                        200 B-2 Bombers for strategic attacks
                        1500 B-52 bombers for carpet bombing cities and some strategic attacks.

                        3000 F/A-22A's These will provide for air superiority, escort duty for the big boys and ground forces support, as in strikes. You will update these craft with USN type electronics so each aircraft is capable of 'Wild Weasel" duties.

                        700 hundred tankers to refuel all those birds.

                        3000 A-10 Warthogs Anti Armor/Ground support

                        You may think that is a lot of aircraft but you also have to think of wear and tear for a full war and the losses incurred due to parts failure and enemy fire. Also, the F/A-22 will be performing duties of the F-117A, F-15, F-15E, F-16 (All versions and mission variations) and we have a large number of those aircraft types. Why use second class aircraft when you can choose the best. To carpet/fire bomb a city effectively, you need large numbers of aircraft, those aircraft need escorts.

                        Navy

                        1200 F-14D/F-21 (New build only!)

                        These aircraft will perform all Ground Attack/Strike duties performed by the A-6 and all F-18 variations. They will also be used for long range CAP/Interdiction duties. The number may seem high, but again you need spares for wear and tear for a full war and the losses incurred due to parts failure and enemy fire. These aircraft can be supplemented with F-18E/F once they are up to speed with new (much) higher powered engines. Until then no SH!!!!!!

                        You might also want to make an F-14 tanker version to keep your parts commonality as large as possible. With the Tanker version you add another 150 aircraft on top of what is listed.

                        Bottom Line

                        With this combination Airforce/Naval Air combat force you could pretty much take on the world and devastate it in a couple of years. I don't mean knock out things, I mean WWII levels of Devastation as in Japanese cities that were firebombed and leveled. You would of course need a ground force of equally large proportions (25-30 Divisions) to conquer those who don't surrender outright during the early bombing phase....... I am of course talking about taking on the EU, Russians and Red Chinese at the same time, along with kicking a little Arab booty while we are at it.......

                        :S :ph34r

                        So do you think I have enough to win WWIII?
                        . "

                        By the way, what's a Wedgetail?

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                        • #72
                          My dream AF will be

                          SU-30 MKI - 350,
                          SU-35/37(THE MULTI ROLE ONE ) -180,
                          LCA-TEJAS - 600,
                          APACHE HELO - 120,
                          IL 76 - 80,
                          MI 26 - 50,
                          ALH(DHRUV) - 150,
                          PAKFA - 150,
                          Mig 33 - 80.
                          PHALCON - 10,
                          IJT/AJT - 150,
                          MCA - 100.

                          This is what i want IAF to have . I will like to decommisioned all the migs 21,23,27 as well as jaguars & mig 29s. In place of it LCA & su 35/37 ACs
                          Last edited by indianguy4u; 02 Jun 05,, 07:24.
                          Hala Madrid!!

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                          • #73
                            Hi Indianguy4u.
                            Are you new too?
                            If you are, well I'm also from India, from Delhi.
                            And according to you the IAF should have such a little amount of aircraft.
                            If they were to have so little aircraft what would happen?

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                            • #74
                              helloooooooooooo to hello . Kya kar raha hai yaar. Also do log on to Asian disc forum .U will enjoy the debate over there.
                              Hala Madrid!!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by hello
                                And according to you the IAF should have such a little amount of aircraft.
                                If they were to have so little aircraft what would happen?
                                Do the maths yaar . how much is 350+600+180.
                                I think 1130 AC is good enough no.s . Whats use of more than that ?
                                With these no.s IAF can easily be the top AF in Asia Pacific region
                                Last edited by indianguy4u; 02 Jun 05,, 07:29.
                                Hala Madrid!!

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