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    Compare these forces. If their objective is to destroy each others bases/carriers, which one would win, provided they all have the same number of AWACSs, fighters and 1 base?

    1.

    Base: 1 Land Base
    AWACS: E-3B Sentry
    "Hi" fighter: F-22A Raptor
    "Lo" fighter: F-35A JSF
    Fighter/bomber: F-15E Strike Eagle

    2.

    Base: 1 Nimitz Carrier
    AWACS: E-2D "Hawkeye 2000"
    "Hi" fighter: F/A-18F Super Hornet
    "Lo" fighter: F-35C JSF
    Fighter/bomber: F/A-18E Super Hornet

    3.

    Base: 1 Land Base
    AWACS: E-3A Sentry
    "Hi" fighter: F-15C Eagle
    "Lo" fighter: F-16C/D Falcon
    Fighter/bomber: FB-111 Aardvark

    4.

    Base: 1 Nimitz Carrier
    AWACS: E-2C Hawkeye
    "Hi" fighter: F-14D Super Tomcat
    "Lo" fighter: F/A-18C/D Hornet
    Fighter/bomber: A-6 Intruder

    5.

    Base: 1 Land Base
    AWACS: A50 Mainstay
    "Hi" fighter: Su35 Super Flanker
    "Lo" fighter: MiG29 Fulcrum
    Fighter/bomber: Su34 Bomber Flanker/Fullback

    6.

    Base: 1 Land Base
    AWACS: E-3B Sentry/E-737 Wedgetail???
    "Hi" fighter: EF-2000 Typhoon
    "Lo" fighter: Tornado ADV
    Fighter/bomber: Tornado IDS

    In 3 vs 4, the naval force is equal to the air force, while the F-111 has an advantage over the A-6, the F-14s Phoenix is superior to the F-15s AMRAAM. The carrier also has the small advantage of being able to move around. However in the next gen(1 vs 2), the air force has a huge advantage with the F-22A and the fighter/bomber advantage stays with the F-15E over the F-18E. Both sides have stealth AGM-158 JASSMs and long-ranged JSOWs, so the base/carriers air defences are slightly less useful than in 3 vs 4. The only advantage left with the carrier is the ability to move. Against 5, probably the only one which can better it is 1 or 6, while the F-14s of 4 might also equal the Su35s and MiG29s.
    Last edited by hello; 25 Feb 06,, 07:21.

  • #2
    I go with the 1st Group. Also their is no F-111B, it was cancelled as it was developed for the navy but later succeeded by the F-14. The most recent version of the F-111 I believe is the F-111F, though, that will have to be checked on.

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    • #3
      I'm no expert, but I'd guess the 1st, 2nd and 6th groups would come in gold silver and bronze, with the 5th getting 4th place. I base this assumption upon the rules that I've been led to believe here: That US and EU aircraft have better avionics and longer engagement ranges, while Soviet/Russian aircraft tend to have superior close-range capabilities, that stealth rules against most RADAR systems these days, and that the F-22 kicks ass in all areas except price. But I might be totally wrong, this just seems to be the most broadly supported set of rules.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The_Burning_Kid
        I go with the 1st Group. Also their is no F-111B, it was cancelled as it was developed for the navy but later succeeded by the F-14. The most recent version of the F-111 I believe is the F-111F, though, that will have to be checked on.
        And I think the RAAF uses F-111Fs. If you really wanted to take out the enemy airbase, an FB-111 with a nuke would do the trick.

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        • #5
          Whoops, I mixed up F-111B and FB-111. The F-117 can also be the fighter/bomber for 3, but with no A2A capability(The aardvark can carry 4 aim-9s), it can't be a fighter, and with a payload of only 2 GBU-24/10/32, it isn't much of a bomber either.

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