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  • Israel and KSA Should they Move on Aganist Iran

    Two old foes unite against Tehran

    ONCE they were sworn enemies. Now Israelís Mossad intelligence agency is working with Saudi officials on contingency plans for a possible attack on Iran if its nuclear programme is not significantly curbed in a deal that could be signed in Geneva this week.

    Both the Israeli and Saudi governments are convinced that the international talks to place limits on Tehranís military nuclear development amount to appeasement and will do little to slow its development of a nuclear warhead.

    As part of the growing co-operation, Riyadh is understood already to have given the go-ahead for Israeli planes to use its airspace in the event of an attack on Iran.

    Both sides are now prepared to go much further. The Sunni kingdom is as alarmed as Israel by the nuclear ambitions of the Shiíite-dominated Iran.


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    Such a scenario has been put forth previously. Such a venture is very feasible tactically. The political viability of such a marriage however, is extremely problematic.
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    • #3
      Why don't the Saudis hit Iran?

      I mean they have the cash, the geography, and don't seem to lack planes.

      OTOH, if this is true and both press hard, US position of forcing sanctions is not looking good.
      No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

      To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Doktor View Post
        Why don't the Saudis hit Iran? I mean they have the cash, the geography, and don't seem to lack planes.
        What the Saudis lack is the high expertise and combat experience of the IAF. Such a strike would need to be devastating and thorough. Nuclear facilities and offensive/defensive missile sites would all have to be neutralized.

        I also don't think Saudi overflight rights would be enough. Landing rights at Saudi military airfields would be required for emergencies (damaged aircraft) or for aircraft going bingo on fuel.
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        • #5
          Even combined, the KSA and Israel lack the munition inventory to do the job properly. There is only one power on earth who can deliver that volume in a timely fashion. This is nothing more than an attempt by both countries to goad the US into action.

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          • #6
            Any such alliance would have to be low key, especially in the Saudi media the ruling family will have to downplay co-operation with Israel. Israel also needs to consider Saudi Arabia's growing influence in the region and if they want to risk becoming the junior partner.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
              This is nothing more than an attempt by both countries to goad the US into action.
              This has been proposed before by pundits. I don't think it is a serious consideration at this time. I also have serious doubts that the House of Saud could convince Saudis that an IAF flotilla over their airspace is a good thing.

              Pressure on Obama/Kerry is coming from European allies and Congress. President Hollende of France (in Israel today) has reiterated his determination to accept nothing less than a transparent and comprehensive monitoring program on Iran.
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              • #8
                Netanyahu? Being junior? Hehehehehahahahehehehahahahahahahahahahaha. Good joke. Real good joke.

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                • #9
                  Netanyahu may be a stubborn and determined leader, but the Saudi royal family will still be around long after he is gone.

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                  • #10
                    The House of Saud has never shown much for leadership.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                      The political viability of such a marriage however, is extremely problematic.
                      That's a pity as i was hoping this could be Israel's in with the GCC. Pull that off and the rest fo the arab world follows.

                      Can you see no way to improve relations between the two over common interests here ? Iran is not going to go away. Both Israel & KSA are competing in the panic stakes here.

                      The primary conflict the Saudis see is still the Israel-Pal issue. Closer relations could help both sides here.
                      Last edited by Double Edge; 19 Nov 13,, 16:02.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sitting Bull View Post
                        Netanyahu may be a stubborn and determined leader, but the Saudi royal family will still be around long after he is gone.
                        The longevity of the house of Saud is down to family politics. How they manage the transition from aging leadership to the 3rd generation is crucial to their future. Israel in comparison is much more predictable.

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                        • #13
                          That's Israel's present minister of justice.

                          Israel, Saudis speaking same language on Iran - Livni | Reuters | Oct 24 2013

                          "I think that you can hear that Arabic sounds familiar to Hebrew when it comes to Iran," she said, making a rare public linkage between the goals of Israel and Saudi Arabia, which have long been enemies and have no diplomatic ties.
                          She's flirting

                          Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, addressing parliament last week, hailed the rare commonality of Israeli-Arab interests as something that could help advance decades-old peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

                          "It is now very clear that the interests of the State of Israel (and) the moderates or the pragmatic in the region are the same," Livni said. "So we need on one hand to continue putting pressure on Iran ... and simultaneously to move forward in the peace process."
                          Bingo!
                          Last edited by Double Edge; 19 Nov 13,, 16:11.

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                          • #14
                            I think it might be an unofficial alliance. If Israel strikes and weakens Iran, there will be blood in the water from an already weak Iran, and the sharks will come. There are already plenty of Sunni militia in Syria, if Iran is weak, who says Saudi wont start backing them to make moves into Iran? Especially if Israel was to clear and initial path with airstrikes, the Gulf states would love to get a shot at the Shia stronghold.
                            Remember Egypt, the Saudi's have been showing allot more leadership lately along with the other gulf states. Both the Saudis and the Israelis are also extremely dissatisfied with the US at the moment, especially the Saudis (USA fracking ebbing away oil sales, criticism of crackdown during Arab Spring, inaction in syria). I think backing a gradual Sunni milita invasion might be just the sort of thing the Saudis are looking for in a number of ways.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SajeevJino View Post
                              Two old foes unite against Tehran

                              ONCE they were sworn enemies. Now Israelís Mossad intelligence agency is working with Saudi officials on contingency plans for a possible attack on Iran if its nuclear programme is not significantly curbed in a deal that could be signed in Geneva this week.

                              Both the Israeli and Saudi governments are convinced that the international talks to place limits on Tehranís military nuclear development amount to appeasement and will do little to slow its development of a nuclear warhead.

                              As part of the growing co-operation, Riyadh is understood already to have given the go-ahead for Israeli planes to use its airspace in the event of an attack on Iran.

                              Both sides are now prepared to go much further. The Sunni kingdom is as alarmed as Israel by the nuclear ambitions of the Shiíite-dominated Iran.


                              Read full Article @

                              Two old foes unite against Tehran | The Sunday Times
                              you know, they both really should unite and give it a go.

                              in fact nothing would make me happier.

                              the sooner the better.

                              A civic duty for all mankind to benefit.

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