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Because there is no guarantee that the next Syrian adminstration will not want the Golan back ?Last edited by Double Edge; 02 Dec 11,, 22:16.
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Point taken.There's something I forgot before.Iran and Russia made their moves in support of Assad.I wonder how the Israelis will do it.Right now,they have as much interest as Iran not to see Assad toppled.That may be the most important reason NATO won't move a finger.
I'm not expecting anything to show up from the Israeli side on the matter,though.
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mihais,
There is no way in hell NATO will attack Assad,because we might see how S300's with Russian crews in Syrian uniform can fight.
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Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
The shift from Syria being pro Iran and Iraq semi-pro Turkey (out of their own self interests to keep their leverage as independent nations up) to Syria becoming pro Turkey and Iraq pro Iran (in essence client states) changes dynamics in the region. Think about possible future bases in the region on Syrian soil for Nato or even Turkey and the power projection capabilities.
Russia cares because the more religious regimes in Iraq and Syria would fund more groups in the Caucases/Central Asia while making it appealing for Turkey to do the same. To some degree the shift in Iraq and Syria(if it happens) would go from more secular nationalists to religious forces whom would be less pragmatic externally.
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Originally posted by Red Team View PostWhat's up with the Russian's buddy-buddy response here in Syria? It seems to me that they have something that they want which wasn't so in Libya.
The relationship dates back to the soviet era.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostWhy is that men like this just cannot step down after decades of rule and do whats best for the people he ruled albeit by his own rule without destroying everything in the country of having so many lives lost to see who is more determined to rule their lives.
What I'm curious about is what Israel is going to do in the coming months...I suppose Mossad "encouragement" towards Assad's demise isn't too far fetched?
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Libya wasn't that important to Russia.
I'll be very curious to see how this goes on.Israel and Iran are allies of convenience here.,both in league with the Russians.The Iranians already sent men to help Assad.Now the Russians made their move.There is no way in hell NATO will attack Assad,because we might see how S300's with Russian crews in Syrian uniform can fight.
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostThere's been a few developments in this theatre recently.
- The Turks do not have any objections to intervening in Syria if necessary.
- Some of Libya's opposition fighters as well as weapons are being offered to strengthen the Syrian 'resistance'.
- The Russians are deploying their warships to the Syrian port of Tartus. The Russians are opposing the arms embargo on Syria and have not ruled out arming Syria with Russian weapons and have supplied them with supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles.
Russia does not want an intervention in Syria, either that or they want to make it expensive.
Why is that men like this just cannot step down after decades of rule and do whats best for the people he ruled albeit by his own rule without destroying everything in the country of having so many lives lost to see who is more determined to rule their lives.Last edited by Dreadnought; 02 Dec 11,, 15:38.
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Syria is not oil rich. They export modest amounts of oil and need gas imports. Production rates of oil have been in decline for 15 years or so-
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostThere's been a few developments in this theatre recently.
- The Turks do not have any objections to intervening in Syria if necessary.
- Some of Libya's opposition fighters as well as weapons are being offered to strengthen the Syrian 'resistance'.
- The Russians are deploying their warships to the Syrian port of Tartus. The Russians are opposing the arms embargo on Syria and have not ruled out arming Syria with Russian weapons and have supplied them with supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles.
Russia does not want an intervention in Syria, either that or they want to make it expensive.
But in that situation one can't help but fear an inadvertent explosion of hostilities...
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My uneducated guess.
Ass-as falls, but not too soon and not before things get dirty. The Salafi radicals instigate violence against Christian/Shiia/Allawi minorities who face the worst during the worsening turmoil. The Iranians think about saving Assad, but most likely do not have the balls to send IRGC in. It would also devastate their credibility as they protested the KSA backed Bahraini operations against the unpleased majority. Turks may be leading the Arab League supported peacekeeping mission while there won´t be much peace to keep, but a lot of disturbance to suppress. If the Turks are left out, or do not want to mess with this issue, whoever goes in, will most likely fail. Turks are only ones who have skills, balls and equipment/troops to take care of this. All of the others lack one or more of the relevant factors.
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There's been a few developments in this theatre recently.
- The Turks do not have any objections to intervening in Syria if necessary.
- Some of Libya's opposition fighters as well as weapons are being offered to strengthen the Syrian 'resistance'.
- The Russians are deploying their warships to the Syrian port of Tartus. The Russians are opposing the arms embargo on Syria and have not ruled out arming Syria with Russian weapons and have supplied them with supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles.
Russia does not want an intervention in Syria, either that or they want to make it expensive.
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The Tolerant Dictator: Syria's Christians Side with Assad Out of Fear - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
What will happen with this people if/when ''democracy'' wins,is quite an easy guess.
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