Syrian Civil War Developments

[Big K]

Afghanistan has none.

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Mining in Afghanistan is controlled by the Ministry of Mines and Industry, which is headquartered in Kabul with regional offices in other parts of the country. Afghanistan has over 1400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semiprecious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, zinc among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. It is believed that among other things the country holds $3 trillion in untapped mineral deposits.[1]
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[Big K]

Following same logic, Turkey is responsible for the 3 bombs in their city. They did it just to blame Syrian regime.

I don't buy it, do you?

yes it is Turkey to blame for the attacks. we are hosting Syrian rebels on our soil...

this is another result of Erdogans 2002 elections victory.

[Aryajet]

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US is capitalist. a capitalist don't go to war to steal Iron, Lead, Salt, Talc or Sulfur. All those minerals listed in wiki are readily available and over a trillion dollars cost of war so far could buy plenty of them from open market without single loss of life.

[Aryajet]

Following same logic, Turkey is responsible for the 3 bombs in their city. They did it just to blame Syrian regime.

I don't buy it, do you?

Dok,

Will be glad to answer if you insist that the comparison is valid.

[cyppok]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-15/senate-foreign-relations-panel-vote-arming-syrian-rebels-next-week

"Syria Transition Support Act"

The vote by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee would mark the first time lawmakers have voted to approve arming Syrian rebels and could increase pressure on the Obama administration to take action in the 26-month-old civil war.

So it begins. The great unraveling of middle east. It seems every American will contribute ~75 cents a year for 250 mil to arm religious fanatics. I rather spend that on a candy bar or something.


u-s-stands-firm-on-decision-not-to-arm-syrian-rebels
(I use this link to illustrate that whenever gov't says it won't do something expect the opposite.)

[JAD_333]

Cypok:

The vote is next Tuesday. The bill authorizes arming vetted groups, but does not and cannot, compel the Administration to do so. The main thrust of the bill is to authorize money to help with a post-Assad transition. It seems to dovetail with talks moving forward between the US and Russia on how to defuse the threat of a takeover by militant Islamic groups in a post-Assad Syria, among other topics.

Predictions of where all this will lead are contradictory, as is usual in such conflicts. There is considerable Arab support for a broad-based effort to prevent a catastrophic disintegration in the region. The conditions necessary for the whole region to blow up have not been met as yet.

[cyppok]

Cypok:

The vote is next Tuesday. The bill authorizes arming vetted groups, but does not and cannot, compel the Administration to do so. The main thrust of the bill is to authorize money to help with a post-Assad transition. It seems to dovetail with talks moving forward between the US and Russia on how to defuse the threat of a takeover by militant Islamic groups in a post-Assad Syria, among other topics.

Predictions of where all this will lead are contradictory, as is usual in such conflicts. There is considerable Arab support for a broad-based effort to prevent a catastrophic disintegration in the region. The conditions necessary for the whole region to blow up have not been met as yet.

the "Administration" has lied on almost every promise they made not to do and did what they wanted in the end.

Subsidizing people like this
Graphic Video Of CIA?s Heart Eating Cannibal Terrorist Sparks UN Call For War Crimes Prosecution - BlackListedNews.com
is not conductive for the improvement of the situation.

But I am sure the FSA will be re-branded as a "moderately" religious pro FREEDUMB movement against the oppressive and tyrannical dictatorial regime.*sarcasm*

Bipartisan pull pushes weapons for Syrian rebels - CNN.com

The "Syria Transition Support Act" also calls for military training and both lethal and non-lethal arms for vetted groups; a $250 million "transition fund each year" through fiscal year 2015, and sanctions on oil sales to al-Assad.

Arab support is particularly forthcoming because of sectarian differences. When every group is armed and on the brink of establishing their 'un'-official fiefdoms in localles and regions. The conditions for separation and actual full on independent civil warring is very close.

Arab support will facilitate the minorities both religious and ethnic to take up arms and stake out on their own. Ethnic or religious nationalism does not convey a sense of egalitarianism once things resolve themselves.

Look how focused things are Iran, Russia, China will most likely fund the other side. Any fracturing will be met by someone to support the division. Imagine a state of North Syria with the capital in Aleppo then figure what happens on the ground as Kurds realize they will have to deal with religious-ethnic-nationalists. I can totally see how bad this gets because every major asset comes into play those small groups realize that blowing up pipelines and creating headline attacks endogenously will create pressure for something to change.
You do not think any of these countries won't get blowback of any kind from the opposing factions?

[JAD_333]

You do not think any of these countries won't get blowback of any kind from the opposing factions?

Let me draw your attention to the reality that there would be no problem whatever in the region if all factions agreed with each other.

Disagreement among disagreeable factions can lead to negative consequences for one or the other or all of them. We speculate on that basis, but the final outcome cannot affirm every speculative scenario. The bigger powers will pursue their interests even if it means rolling over the smaller ones.

[cyppok]

Let me draw your attention to the reality that there would be no problem whatever in the region if all factions agreed with each other.

Disagreement among disagreeable factions can lead to negative consequences for one or the other or all of them. We speculate on that basis, but the final outcome cannot affirm every speculative scenario. The bigger powers will pursue their interests even if it means rolling over the smaller ones.

The problem is not their problems with each other. The problem is that intervention by US and other actors creates very different dynamics if they only dealt with it themselves. On the regional level Saudis and Iran are fairly evenly matched but once you get world dynamics involved with Europe, Russia, China, etc. you create a maelstrom of very different outcomes.

The other perspective is this is internal deconstruction of factions, ergo we are directly involved in whom wins in a civil war. This is not extra-territorial it will become so in the future but not yet.

My view is thus. I always think that artificial support for a faction creates an artificial dynamic within a state, the dependency on continued support of OUR leader becomes secondary to weather or not the actions of that person in the future systemically undermine our own prerogatives. This is becoming not just short term outcome dependent but so short term that once the outcome we "want" happens it turns into a drag and a negative even for ourselves. Lybia is an example of that when the people in power desided to negotiate away our ambassador post-help. Radicals took over structurally in both Lybia and Egypt and we now have a completely unreliable two-faced people in power whom would finance anything against us if they just had the money and weren't collapsing internally.

Thus far there was no active other side funders, there was no push by other powers of a stop gap factional backing until now. Syria presents this opportunity because of interconnection with both Iraq, Kurds, religious intersection and other aspects. You have this seesaw of counter moves on the wider chessboard that may seem utterly irrational but may occur just the same. Everyone is asked to pick a side and face ramifications.

Iran is stabilizing its' trade flows through gold trading mechanism with Turkey and Dubai/Emirates.
Pakistan is turning more religious. Turkey is trying to be assertive. Europe is simply trying to gain economic paths to either energy or more leverage worldwide even as their economic cascade downward accelerates. Everyone is beginning to behave more outwardly meddlesome for the sake of gain that never arrives, sort of like us. (thoughts drift)

[Big K]

this video is in Turkish.

it is made of comments of people from Hatay 8 months BEFORE the recent bombings.

in short, People of Hatay is shouting that they dont want AQ militants in their homeland. they claim that AQ militants threat the locals and also they claim to be eye-witness of some training camps full of bearded AQ militants near the Turkish-Syrian border.

seems that US will openly (it was a secret! till now ) support AQ in Syria against Asad. and TR is already doing this for a long time now...

[Dante]

this video is in Turkish.

it is made of comments of people from Hatay 8 months BEFORE the recent bombings.

in short, People of Hatay is shouting that they dont want AQ militants in their homeland. they claim that AQ militants threat the locals and also they claim to be eye-witness of some training camps full of bearded AQ militants near the Turkish-Syrian border.

seems that US will openly (it was a secret! till now ) support AQ in Syria against Asad. and TR is already doing this for a long time now...

Nobody will pay any attention to that, the official line is " freedom fighters" vs "evil dictator" (who just happens not to be our "evil dictator", bad for him)

[Doktor]

Once you get the status of a "freedom fighter" all you need to is to stay alive and the help will come. Eventually.

[Mihais]

Once you turn freedom fighter you pretty much have a free hand.Enjoy the free entertainment. I have a strange feeling of deja vu.Where did I saw this kind of movies? Please,I ask the international community to help my fading memory.

p.s Don't be jerks and report this.I guess it's already on liveleak,so need to bother.And gentle souls need not be afraid.Reality is gentle.There's more gore in any movie.

[zraver]

That video proves that we have no business arming the rebels. Let the Syrians fight it out amongst themselves.

[Minskaya]

Once you turn freedom fighter you pretty much have a free hand.Enjoy the free entertainment. I have a strange feeling of deja vu.Where did I saw this kind of movies? Please,I ask the international community to help my fading memory.

p.s Don't be jerks and report this.I guess it's already on liveleak,so need to bother.And gentle souls need not be afraid.Reality is gentle.There's more gore in any movie.

Arabic-to-English translation:

“The sharia court of Al Nusra Front in the eastern region of Dair Alzour has ruled that it will execute these apostate soldiers because of the massacres they perpetrated against our brothers and people in Syria.”

The rebel Al Nusra Front is closely aligned with Al Qaeda. The sharia court declaration seems to indicate that the eleven executed were Alawite.

As an aside, the rebel commander doing the shooting was himself killed during fighting in March.