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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostSir, a request: Please refer to the people of Ukraine as "Ukrainians". Thank you.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostWhat were the targets then? If planes were taking off the next day it seems it was not air control. However whatever the target may have been it clearly did not work to convince the Assad regime to desist from it war crimes.
More images and damage assessment at the link.
https://www.imagesatintl.com/us-strike-syria/Last edited by SteveDaPirate; 09 Apr 18,, 22:17.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostRespecting nuclear weapons is one thing. Respecting a person is another.
Originally posted by snapper View PostTrump has done nothing to earn respect
Originally posted by snapper View Postbut he is not the US, nor is Putin Muscovy.
Originally posted by snapper View PostWhat were the targets then?
Originally posted by snapper View PostIf planes were taking off the next day it seems it was not air control. However whatever the target may have been it clearly did not work to convince the Assad regime to desist from it war crimes.
Originally posted by snapper View PostPutin is never going to start WW3 over Syria.
Originally posted by snapper View PostLike "Moskals", "krauts" etc... some might consider that disrespectful.
Originally posted by snapper View PostWell I would make the proposal to Muscovy and Iran to get rid of Assad themselves or...
Originally posted by snapper View PostOnly because we did not stop this long ago - and yea Obama bears guilt on that count too.
Originally posted by snapper View Post"The Czechs gave up when they lacked the political support". If Chamberlain had supported them the greater war may have been averted and millions of lives saved.Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 09 Apr 18,, 22:13.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post10,000 nukes don't really care for your respect. You, however, can disrespect it at your peril, not mine.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostDidn't matter. The targets were stuff that can't be moved.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostA direct fight between two nuclear superpowers with 20,000 nuclear warheads between them is not an angle.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostDon't care. I will keep using the Ukraines.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostBecause it was not an direct engagement between two nuclear superpowers.
Well I would make the proposal to Muscovy and Iran to get rid of Assad themselves or...
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostDon't know. Don't care. The Syrian opposition is more interested in fighting each other than they are about fighting Assad.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostIt was 100% Czech decision. They had the Sudetenland fortified up the ying-yang. There was no way that Britain nor France could come to their aide in time. If it was going to be war, it would be the Czechs alone. The Czechs gave up when they lacked the political support but everyone knew that they would be on their own.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostShould I also respect Putin then?
Originally posted by snapper View PostAfter warning the Muscovites first who did not warn their Assad allies?
Originally posted by snapper View PostVery unlikely in my view. Syria is not crucial to Putin. It is merely an angle. The only thing that really matters to him - or any dictator - is staying in power at home.
Originally posted by snapper View PostUkraine; not "the Ukraine" or "Ukraines".
Originally posted by snapper View PostI am happy to hear your view but if Ukraine was under "Moscow's nuclear umbrella" and they will not nuke us why would start a nuclear war over Assad?
Originally posted by snapper View PostThen perhaps the Muscovites and Iranians should be warned that they need to get rid of Assad.
Originally posted by snapper View PostWell yes I am not a Syrian but we have our own war against a common foe so I can sympathise. I knew a guy who went to fight for the Syrian Christians - only met him at his leaving party. Dead I would guess.
Originally posted by snapper View PostIt was not a Czech decision - they were prepared to fight. Chamberlain undercut them as do you every time that say international agreements should not necessarily be enforced. It just leads to more. It does not save lives but costs them long term.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostGood God, he's one of two people on this planet with 10,000 nukes at his disposal. The other is Putin. If you CANNOT show professionalism respecting that kind of power, then your views are just non-sequittor.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostThey were not targetting the runways. They were targetting delivery assets.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostBecause going after Assad will do exactly that.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostDon't change the subject. No one is going to nuke the Ukraines.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostIf we go for regieme change? Yes, especially when the Russians have actual active combat assets in the area.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostThey won't get rid of him and neither will we, unless accidently meaning he was at the wrong place at the wrong time when our bombs hit but he won't be on a target list. Stop spouting high and mighty crap especially when you're not the one doing the dirty work going after him.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostWell, the Czechs were not as callous as you are.
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Respect and contempt are not mutually exclusive. I have comptempt for Hitler and Stalin but that does not mean that I do not respect what they have done with their power.
In this case, you have to respect Trump precisely because of the power he wields. He maybe a horse's ass but his actions have major consquences. Disrespect that at your peril as Assad is now learning. Trump cannot control his anger and Assad just got him angry.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostGood God, he's one of two people on this planet with 10,000 nukes at his disposal. The other is Putin. If you CANNOT show professionalism respecting that kind of power, then your views are just non-sequittor.
One can respect the power of the Office of President while utterly despising the horse's ass that sits in the aforementioned office.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostI do not respect Trump; the man is a lowlife money laundering crook. If he started WWlll I would respect less if that were possible.
Originally posted by snapper View PostPlanes were using it the next day.
Originally posted by snapper View PostCertainly not but I question your claim that the Israeli's were after drone command there. Do you have proof of this?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...yria-1.5979943
It helps greatly if you stop speaking out of your garbage and do actual real time reading
Originally posted by snapper View PostFirst not sure what has got to do with me not wish to see WW3.
Originally posted by snapper View PostSecond I seem to recall you saying that Ukraine was also under Moscow's "nuclear umbrella" yet it hasn't stopped us sending them home Cargo 200 trucks.
Originally posted by snapper View PostYou really think Moscow would launch nuclear weapons for Assad?
Originally posted by snapper View PostLike I said I don't give a hoot if the Muscovites and Iranians get rid of him themselves. He can go live out his days in Tehran or Moscow.
Originally posted by snapper View PostIf it had prevented WW2 which cost 50 - 80m lives it would have been cheap but the French should have stopped it at the start; the re-occupation of the Rhineland which was contrary to the Treaties.
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Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostYour lack of respect for Trump means that even if he starts WWIII, you would think it's damned little.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostThe destruction of 14 aircrafts, an entire squadron, reduced his delivery vehicles for 6-8 months until the Russians replaced those planes. Even if we take Assad's words that those were wrecked planes to begin with, they were clearly a source of spare parts that kept his other planes in the air that were now denied. Like I said, the AARs provided a much clearer assessement than your fantasy island assesements.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostAre you now an expert in signal management? T4 to Israel ain't that big.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostSyria is under the Russian nuclear umbrella.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostWhich means whatever actions we take will NOT include takiing Assad to the Hague.
Originally posted by WABs_OOE View PostYes, you detest Chamberlanis "Peace In Our Time." But what you are ignoring that the alternative was turning the Sudetenland into a bloodfest worst than the Somme. 200,000 dead easily.
P.S See https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-is...er&via=desktopLast edited by snapper; 09 Apr 18,, 19:46.
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Originally posted by TopHatter View PostI wonder if the Kremlin has the balls to retaliate against Israel. It could turn the Israel-Syria area into a shooting gallery very quickly.
In the aftermath of the chemical attack and with the POTUS talking about a "big price to pay" Iran can't overtly retaliate against Israel for the strike on T4. At least not without running the risk that their forces deployed in Syria start looking like appealing targets to the Americans just as the US is putting together a reminder that there are bigger fish in the pond and consequences when you don't play by the rules.Last edited by SteveDaPirate; 09 Apr 18,, 18:45.
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Originally posted by snapper View PostSo what do you think Trumpkins "big price" may entail?
Originally posted by snapper View PostI mean clearly hitting that empty airbase last year did not work.
Originally posted by snapper View PostT4 is where they run drones from? Seems a bit distant from the Israeli border.
Originally posted by snapper View PostI most certainly do not want that.
Originally posted by snapper View PostOn the contrary I think doing nothing to protect international law makes a wider war more likely not less.
Originally posted by snapper View PostIt was the same with Hitler.
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