Originally posted by citanon
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Originally posted by zraver
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You fools need to face the facts: There is no Syria or Iraq anymore. There are Sunni's (the majority in Syria), Shia (the majority in Iraq), Alawites (Assad's bunch) and Kurds (and a few unfortunate Assyrian Christians and sundry other minorities who we should do our best to get out). The Muscovites have the Alawite's back; they need their areas on the coast for Tartus. Whether the Syrian part of Kurdistan joins up with Iraqi Kurdistan is unclear as yet. The Iraqi Government is vindictively Shia and the only way to prevent an Iranian Shia crescent that will continue the massacre of the Sunni and next go after Lebanon and Jordan is to create a moderate form of Daesh that the Sunni's in Western Iraq and Central Syria can accept. Assad created Daesh as much did the Iraqi government - and the 'west' in the longer run by overthrowing Saddam and then leaving them to it. Sure Daesh has to go as does Assad and the Muscovites need assurances about the coast but creating the new 'Sunnistan' and perhaps Kurdistan out of the fractured pieces is in the interests of the West and the local population. Personally I would also seriously consider a unified Kurdistan allied to this new Sunni state which in turn would be supported by the Gulf Arabs. It is not that I am anti Shia (though I do find some of the specifics of their faith pretty incredulous) and pro Sunni but the Sauds and Hashemites are and have been our allies since WW1 (though at the time the Sauds were clients of British India which to some extent pursued it's own interests). The Persian theocracy has been nothing but trouble and due to the useless policies of previous years is undoubtedly continuing to acquire it's own nuclear weapons with which to intimidate others and control the Gulf oil supply. The Northern Korean lesson is clear; Clinton made a 'deal'; they would stop their nuclear program and all would be rosy... except they didn't keep their end of the deal and nothing happened. You think the Iranians are stupid?
You see I am not blaming your beloved egotist Trump for these problems - Obama was certainly at fault but he made the calculation that Syria didn't matter and that the Iranian deal would stick. I thought he was wrong then and said so on this forum and elsewhere. In a way it was Bush and Blair's fault for the second Iraqi war, which in all fairness had I been in their position I too would have committed to. So long as the Arabs cannot be happy in their own lands the terrorists and refugees will keep coming. You can ban migration all you like but they will find a way. So when you tell me that this is "not our problem" or that this largely ineffective strike on one airfield was a 'stroke of genius' I must question your motives and understanding.
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