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  • tbm3fan
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    Israel hits Houthis after drone attack hit Israeli apartment building killing one.

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  • Monash
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    Originally posted by rj1 View Post
    Why is this government choosing to start a 2nd front?

    https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-ha...n-since-march/
    As per the title the article states the flights in question are going to Beirut, not Tel Aviv. So unless the the British Government and the MoD have lost their collective minds they are NOT delivering arms or equipment to anti-Israeli militias. If equipment of any kind is being flown in? It's probably medical supplies and other equipment for the use of the Lebanese Army and emergency services with an eye to improving their preparedness for mass casualty events. As for military supplies? The Lebanese Army couldn't hope to prevent a full scale incursion by Israel even if the UK handed over every piece of spare kit it has left (which is almost zero thanks to years of under investment and well Ukraine!).

    IMO? The Lebanese Army won't be intervening in the event Israel crosses the border to go after after Hezbollah. They don't have the means, aren't deployed to any great extent in southern Lebanon anyway (because they don't want to annoy Hezbollah or challenge its control there) and if the shooting does start in earnest? Will have their hands full just managing a refugee crisis and maintaining civil control in the north. My best guess is that the article is sensationalizing regular military flights being conducted for the purpose of covert diplomatic meetings and the movement of classified assets and information into and out of the country at the behest of the British government and it's allies. So not as alarming as it may appear.
    Last edited by Monash; 03 Jul 24,, 07:51.

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  • rj1
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    Why is this government choosing to start a 2nd front?

    https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-ha...n-since-march/

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  • statquo
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    Israel telling northern hospitals to prepare for mass casualty scenario….

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post
    Nice multilayer AAW set up!

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Monash View Post

    Yep, currently something like 12% of the population (and rising). And the of course a second important component of the Courts decision was that any Yeshiva that refuses to release its students for national service is to have its State funding terminated. Looks like the hornets nest has been given two very firm kicks.
    Looks more like it has been frickin' kicked!!!

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  • Monash
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    Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Ultra-Orthodox students must be drafted, Israel court rules



    Probably won't hear too much in US but I would imagine the shit is going to hit the fan in Israel although the Court got it right seeing as how the ultra-orthodox want Arabs gone while their percentage of the population is increasing yearly.
    Yep, currently something like 12% of the population (and rising). And a second important component of the Court's decision was that any Yeshiva that refuses to release its students for national service is to have its State funding terminated. Looks like the hornets nest has been given two very firm kicks.
    Last edited by Monash; 01 Jul 24,, 00:23.

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  • Gun Grape
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    looks like M-LIDS also

    https://www.zona-militar.com/en/2024...-dock-in-gaza/

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  • Albany Rifles
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    C-RAM will work.

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  • Gun Grape
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    A little dated but this mid-May article is saying 2 USN destroyers. And I suspect they are to provide air defense from both Hamas rockets and Houthi drones. The Houthis would love to impact events directly in the Med.

    2 Navy Destroyers Will Help Protect Military's Gaza Aid Pier, Official Confirms | Military.com
    I think I saw where the Army put a C-RAM on the pier also.

    Col, The pier when used in amphib ops would be protected by whatever Navy ships came to the party. And that depends on the size of the operation. From Battalion Landing Team up to Brigade/Division

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Amled View Post



    Does this statment make any sense, any sense of all ?
    It does to the Ultra-Orthodox but not to the secular citizens of Israel. And as we have seen, not the Supreme Court of Israel.

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  • Amled
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    Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Ultra-Orthodox students must be drafted, Israel court rules



    Probably won't hear too much in US but I would imagine the shit is going to hit the fan in Israel although the Court got it right seeing as how the ultra-orthodox want Arabs gone while their percentage of the population is increasing yearly.
    "...They believe that keeping their constituents in Torah study is a way of protecting the people of Israel and maintaining their conservative customs...".
    Does this statment make any sense, any sense of all ?

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  • Albany Rifles
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    The cost of buy in a society with universal service. An outsized political impact on their country and vindication for those Israelis who are secular, Christian or Muslim.

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  • tbm3fan
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    Ultra-Orthodox students must be drafted, Israel court rules

    Israel’s Supreme Court has unanimously ruled in a landmark case that ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students must be drafted to the military.

    There have long been exemptions for conscription for young men registered in full-time religious study, but a legal arrangement allowing the practice to continue had expired.

    The move looks set to send shockwaves through Israel’s governing coalition, which includes ultra-Orthodox, or Haredi, parties.

    A waiver from conscription for ultra-Orthodox men had become a more pressing social issue because of the strain on the armed forces caused by the ongoing fighting against Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

    "In the midst of a gruelling war, the burden of inequality is harsher than ever and demands a solution," the top justices said.

    The Israeli military is often described as “the People’s Army” with most Israelis, apart from Israeli Arabs, required by law to serve in it.

    The ruling of the country’s highest court referred to the fact that large numbers of soldiers had recently been killed while fighting for their country, saying: "Discrimination regarding the most precious thing of all - life itself - is of the worst kind."

    A non-profit group that was one of the main petitioners to the court, the Movement for Quality Government in Israel, welcomed the ruling, describing it as “an historic victory”, and called for immediate action to recruit Jewish seminary, or yeshiva, students.

    Data seen by the court suggested some 63,000 ultra-Orthodox men in full-time Torah study have been covered by the waiver. The ruling means that they now potentially face the draft.

    The court also ruled that there should be a freeze in public funding for yeshivas whose students evade conscription.

    A lawyer who represented a yeshiva association before the court, Shmuel Horowitz, told the BBC that he “was not surprised by the decision but disappointed”, adding: “The courts are not the appropriate forum to solve these kinds of social issues.”

    Asked about the likely response from the ultra-Orthodox community, he noted that “they adhere to their rabbis and don’t care much for court”.

    He suggested that there was still time for the Israeli parliament to come up with a solution that would make the court ruling obsolete before it goes on recess at the end of July.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition government relies for its survival on two ultra-Orthodox parties which view conscription exemptions as a top political priority - Shas and United Torah Judaism.

    They believe that keeping their constituents in Torah study is a way of protecting the people of Israel and maintaining their conservative customs.

    Shas leader Aryeh Deri issued a defiant statement in response to the ruling.

    “There is no power in the world that can cut off the people of Israel from studying the Torah and anyone who has tried this in the past has failed miserably,” he said.

    Housing Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf, the leader of United Torah Judaism, also vowed that “the Holy Torah will prevail”...

    cont: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnee42vmn7xo
    Probably won't hear too much in US but I would imagine the shit is going to hit the fan in Israel although the Court got it right seeing as how the ultra-orthodox want Arabs gone while their percentage of the population is increasing yearly.

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Out of curiosity, GS, what's the force protection for this? For Canada, a pontoon bridge gets an ADATS battery.
    A little dated but this mid-May article is saying 2 USN destroyers. And I suspect they are to provide air defense from both Hamas rockets and Houthi drones. The Houthis would love to impact events directly in the Med.

    2 Navy Destroyers Will Help Protect Military's Gaza Aid Pier, Official Confirms | Military.com

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