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  • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Ultra-Orthodox students must be drafted, Israel court rules



    Probably won't hear too much in US but I would imagine the shit is going to hit the fan in Israel although the Court got it right seeing as how the ultra-orthodox want Arabs gone while their percentage of the population is increasing yearly.
    "...They believe that keeping their constituents in Torah study is a way of protecting the people of Israel and maintaining their conservative customs...".
    Does this statment make any sense, any sense of all ?
    When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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    • Originally posted by Amled View Post



      Does this statment make any sense, any sense of all ?
      It does to the Ultra-Orthodox but not to the secular citizens of Israel. And as we have seen, not the Supreme Court of Israel.
      “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
      Mark Twain

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      • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

        A little dated but this mid-May article is saying 2 USN destroyers. And I suspect they are to provide air defense from both Hamas rockets and Houthi drones. The Houthis would love to impact events directly in the Med.

        2 Navy Destroyers Will Help Protect Military's Gaza Aid Pier, Official Confirms | Military.com
        I think I saw where the Army put a C-RAM on the pier also.

        Col, The pier when used in amphib ops would be protected by whatever Navy ships came to the party. And that depends on the size of the operation. From Battalion Landing Team up to Brigade/Division

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        • C-RAM will work.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • looks like M-LIDS also

            https://www.zona-militar.com/en/2024...-dock-in-gaza/

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            • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
              Ultra-Orthodox students must be drafted, Israel court rules



              Probably won't hear too much in US but I would imagine the shit is going to hit the fan in Israel although the Court got it right seeing as how the ultra-orthodox want Arabs gone while their percentage of the population is increasing yearly.
              Yep, currently something like 12% of the population (and rising). And a second important component of the Court's decision was that any Yeshiva that refuses to release its students for national service is to have its State funding terminated. Looks like the hornets nest has been given two very firm kicks.
              Last edited by Monash; 01 Jul 24,, 00:23.
              If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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              • Originally posted by Monash View Post

                Yep, currently something like 12% of the population (and rising). And the of course a second important component of the Courts decision was that any Yeshiva that refuses to release its students for national service is to have its State funding terminated. Looks like the hornets nest has been given two very firm kicks.
                Looks more like it has been frickin' kicked!!!

                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                Mark Twain

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                • Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post
                  Nice multilayer AAW set up!
                  “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                  Mark Twain

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                  • Israel telling northern hospitals to prepare for mass casualty scenario….

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                    • Why is this government choosing to start a 2nd front?

                      https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-ha...n-since-march/

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                      • Originally posted by rj1 View Post
                        Why is this government choosing to start a 2nd front?

                        https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-ha...n-since-march/
                        As per the title the article states the flights in question are going to Beirut, not Tel Aviv. So unless the the British Government and the MoD have lost their collective minds they are NOT delivering arms or equipment to anti-Israeli militias. If equipment of any kind is being flown in? It's probably medical supplies and other equipment for the use of the Lebanese Army and emergency services with an eye to improving their preparedness for mass casualty events. As for military supplies? The Lebanese Army couldn't hope to prevent a full scale incursion by Israel even if the UK handed over every piece of spare kit it has left (which is almost zero thanks to years of under investment and well Ukraine!).

                        IMO? The Lebanese Army won't be intervening in the event Israel crosses the border to go after after Hezbollah. They don't have the means, aren't deployed to any great extent in southern Lebanon anyway (because they don't want to annoy Hezbollah or challenge its control there) and if the shooting does start in earnest? Will have their hands full just managing a refugee crisis and maintaining civil control in the north. My best guess is that the article is sensationalizing regular military flights being conducted for the purpose of covert diplomatic meetings and the movement of classified assets and information into and out of the country at the behest of the British government and it's allies. So not as alarming as it may appear.
                        Last edited by Monash; 03 Jul 24,, 07:51.
                        If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                        • Israel hits Houthis after drone attack hit Israeli apartment building killing one.

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                          • That was some hit by the IAF.

                            We hit specified targets (radar sites, launchers, camps). They went Hamburg Fire Raid of 1943 on them!
                            “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                            Mark Twain

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                            • https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ns-2024-07-28/
                              Erdogan says Turkey might enter Israel to help Palestinians

                              We haven’t heard from Erdogan of Turkey for a while, so one can only hope that his latest announcement is simply a cry for attention.
                              He has intimated that Turkey is thinking about “entering Israel” to intervene on behalf of the Palestinians. Similar to the way they intervened in Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh.
                              Now you don’t have to be a expert in international relations to know that “entering Israel” would in no way be similar to their intervention in the two aforementioned states, it would be a direct declaration of war with Israel!
                              Erdogan knows this, so is simply an attempt to climb on to the world stage and media. Or like with his actions, when he played games with Sweden joining NATO, in other words he wants something:
                              If serious, then it would be a war between a firm American ally, and a NATO country!
                              Wouldn’t that be a can of worms!!!


                              Last edited by Amled; 29 Jul 24,, 18:10.
                              When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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                              • Let's not forget Israels "reputed" nuclear arsenal!
                                When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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