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  • Thwarted terror plot targeted train from Canada to U.S.

    Official: Thwarted terror plot targeted train from Canada to U.S. - CNN.com

    I foresee mexico as the next entry point especially considering the country's Islamist activities of late.
    One cannot but examine it.

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    Chiheb Esseghaier (30) hails from Tunis, Tunisia and is a Ph.D student (nanotechnology) in Quebec. He has had several run-ins with university authorities due to his strict interpretation of religion. His Linkedin page contains the jihad flag of an Iraqi group affiliated with al Qaeda. Raed Jaser (35) is a Palestinian who holds UAE citizenship. Legal records indicate that he was the owner of a failed (2011) limo service in Ontario. In tandem with Esseghaier, Jasar is a Muslim with strict views on religiosity.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by machiavillain View Post
      Official: Thwarted terror plot targeted train from Canada to U.S. - CNN.com

      I foresee mexico as the next entry point especially considering the country's Islamist activities of late.
      Next? Quick Google search would give you an idea it's not next, but going on for a while.
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      • #4
        Al-Qaeda elements in Iran? Really?

        For fucks sake who writes this shit?

        Someone needs to educate these people on Sunni/Shiite conflict.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by chakos View Post
          Al-Qaeda elements in Iran? Really?

          For fucks sake who writes this shit?

          Someone needs to educate these people on Sunni/Shiite conflict.
          Iranians are entertained as well.

          "This is the most hilarious thing I've heard in my 64 years," Mr Salehi told the Iranian Isna news agency.
          BBC News - Iran denies link to Canada train 'al-Qaeda plot'
          No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

          To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
            Chiheb Esseghaier (30) hails from Tunis, Tunisia and is a Ph.D student (nanotechnology) in Quebec. He has had several run-ins with university authorities due to his strict interpretation of religion. His Linkedin page contains the jihad flag of an Iraqi group affiliated with al Qaeda. Raed Jaser (35) is a Palestinian who holds UAE citizenship. Legal records indicate that he was the owner of a failed (2011) limo service in Ontario. In tandem with Esseghaier, Jasar is a Muslim with strict views on religiosity.
            Who would have thought
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            • #7
              Originally posted by chakos View Post
              Al-Qaeda elements in Iran? Really?

              For fucks sake who writes this shit?

              Someone needs to educate these people on Sunni/Shiite conflict.
              I'm guessing the source was solid - probably RCMP or security services. These guys got dobbed in 12 months ago by a local Imam who was worried about some of the radical young men hanging around the mosque. That means these guys have had their communications monitored for 12 months. If official sources are leaking this they probably have pretty compelling proof.

              While you are broadly correct, it seems that the 'enemy of my enemy' principle is at work here. Also explains help to the Taliban. The CIA was occasionally known to fund both sides of a conflict, why not Iran? The US State Department certainly thinks that Iran allows some AQ people to operate from its soil, though it does detail others. My bet is that this is part 'sink the slipper into Uncle Sam', part 'better to have them inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in', and part 'we can more easily minimize the risk of that which we partially control or at least closely monitor'. This may all be a fool's errand, but one or more of those options are clearly being taken.

              “In 2011,” the State Department’s report reads, “Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody.” Similar language was included in previous State Department reports. But that is not all there is to the Iran-AQ relationship.

              Iran “also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.”
              “Since 2006,” State’s latest report continues, “Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives. Iran has shipped a large number of weapons to Kandahar, Afghanistan, in particular, aiming to increase its influence in this key province.”

              The Defense and Treasury Departments have also previously recognized the assistance Iran provides to the Taliban.

              Iran’s relationships with al Qaeda and the Taliban supplement the regime’s longstanding sponsorship of Shiite terrorist groups and militias.
              Article makes interesting reading.

              State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban | The Weekly Standard
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chakos View Post
                Al-Qaeda elements in Iran? Really?

                For fucks sake who writes this shit?

                Someone needs to educate these people on Sunni/Shiite conflict.
                Originally posted by Bigfella View Post
                While you are broadly correct, it seems that the 'enemy of my enemy' principle is at work here.
                UBL also advocated that Shiia and Sunni differences be put aside for the fight against the west during the height of the civil war in Iraq when Zarqawi was bombing many Shiia.

                To be honest i think in regards to the mass attitude of Sunni vs Shiia conflict, it's a direct result of the petropolitics between the GCC and Iran, and the subsequent nations and proxies booth influence. For example the Maghreb was largely quiet and managable whereas the east of the Levant and the Shiia was not.

                AQ and other rises in Sunni extremism is an example of hardliners with less than compromising fundamentals, but it really depends on which AQ and what situation theyre in that were talking about, they're not all the same. Example of Sunni vs Shiia relations; FSA/AQ vs the Assad/Shiia in Syria as opposed to Hamas and Hezbollah working together against Israel.

                Its a possibility. Of course another possibility is anit-Iranian rhetoric which Like the US and Israel, Canada very much promotes.
                One cannot but examine it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Minskaya View Post
                  Chiheb Esseghaier (30) hails from Tunis, Tunisia and is a Ph.D student (nanotechnology) in Quebec. He has had several run-ins with university authorities due to his strict interpretation of religion. His Linkedin page contains the jihad flag of an Iraqi group affiliated with al Qaeda. Raed Jaser (35) is a Palestinian who holds UAE citizenship. Legal records indicate that he was the owner of a failed (2011) limo service in Ontario. In tandem with Esseghaier, Jasar is a Muslim with strict views on religiosity.
                  Tarek Fatah has something to say about this

                  It’s the doctrine of jihad, stupid

                  ...
                  The fact is these terrorists are motivated by one powerful belief — the doctrine of armed jihad against the “kuffar” (non-Muslims).

                  It is worth noting that not a single Muslim cleric since 9/11 has mustered the courage to say the doctrine of armed jihad is defunct and inapplicable in the 21st century. They rightfully denounce terrorism, but dare not denounce jihad.

                  The armed jihad launched against the infidels, is clearly promoted by the 20th-century writings of such Islamists as Syed Qutb and Hassan al-Banna of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and the late Syed Maudoodi of Jamaat-e-Islami of Indo-Pakistan.

                  Young Muslims across Canada and the U.S. are given booklets titled Towards Understanding Islam, written by Maudoodi. In the booklet, Maudoodi exhorts ordinary Muslims to launch jihad, as in armed struggle, against non-Muslims.

                  “Jihad is part of this overall defence of Islam,” he writes.
                  ...

                  For those who search for the root cause of Islamist terrorism, it’s the doctrine of jihad, stupid
                  I quoted only excerpts, but the whole article is worth reading.

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