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  • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    I understood that reference....
    Maybe Elon Musk can send them a ride home around October....

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    • Originally posted by zraver View Post

      Maybe Elon Musk can send them a ride home around October....
      And I don't understand that reference...
      “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
      Mark Twain

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      • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

        And I don't understand that reference...
        Bring them back to Earth in a Dragon Capsule instead of a Soyuz. In case they don't want to go home to Russia. I think it's a joke about defection.
        "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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        • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
          Bring them back to Earth in a Dragon Capsule instead of a Soyuz. In case they don't want to go home to Russia. I think it's a joke about defection.
          I totally thought of the Penobscot Expedition of 1779. Largest Patriot naval effort of the Revolution up the Penobscot River, ME (then a part of Mass) which was an abject failure and resulted in the Patriots losing all of their forces. I took it as an abject failure of a larger force losing to a smaller defender.

          That's how my brain works...
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • Check out the shit grins and smiles when the lead cosmonaut says they're wearing yellow:

            "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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            • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

              I totally thought of the Penobscot Expedition of 1779. Largest Patriot naval effort of the Revolution up the Penobscot River, ME (then a part of Mass) which was an abject failure and resulted in the Patriots losing all of their forces. I took it as an abject failure of a larger force losing to a smaller defender.

              That's how my brain works...
              The Hunt for Red October ending...

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              • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

                The Hunt for Red October ending...
                Of course....DOH!
                “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                Mark Twain

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                • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

                  The Hunt for Red October ending...
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                  • Originally posted by Gun Grape View Post

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                    “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                    Mark Twain

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                    • 'Living in a frightening situation'- Estonian women learn to fight

                      PADISE, Estonia (Reuters) - Early on a Sunday morning fifteen women in rural Estonia listen to an instructor explain the inner workings of rifles and bullets, after spending a freezing night in self-built tents.

                      The women, aged from 20 to 60, are new recruits in the Women's Voluntary Defence Organisation, part of Estonia's state-run paramilitary defence. Five hundred new applicants joined since the fighting in Ukraine began, expanding the force to 3,200 members.

                      "If I'm needed to actually fight, I will fight, as ridiculous as it sounds in 2022," said woman doing the training, 41-year-old Kristel Eriks who is a travel agent living in Norway.

                      The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, once ruled from Moscow but members of NATO and the European Union since 2004, have called on NATO to urgently reinforce the region after Russia invaded Ukraine.

                      In contrast to Ukraine, the Baltic states enjoy the mutual protection of the NATO Treaty, which states that all members will help them if they are attacked.

                      Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kalas said on Tuesday her country feels no direct military threat, but the women at the training were not so sure.

                      A few miles from Amari airbase, where NATO allies' planes are deployed to patrol the skies of Baltic states, the introductory training did not include shooting with the guns, but the women learned how to apply camouflage on their faces, navigate in the woods and communicate via radios.

                      "Because of the situation in Ukraine, I want to be ready in any crisis situation," said Merle Vimb, 38, on maternity leave for her second child. "I am mostly alone with my children, and I must be ready to cope alone."

                      After seeing an advert on Facebook, she joined up in March to learn first aid and military skills.

                      "Most of us in the Baltics are living in a frightening situation. Because it's not normal, we must prepare. I cannot just sit and wait and see what happens. If there's a crisis, you no longer have a possibility to search for information," said Vimb.
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                      “You scare people badly enough, you can get 'em to do anything They'll turn to whoever promises a solution”

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                      • Someone on another forum is reporting that Uralvagonzavod has ceased some if not all repair and refurbishment work due to parts shortages. Anyone else pick up on this from other sources?
                        If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                        • Originally posted by Monash View Post
                          Someone on another forum is reporting that Uralvagonzavod has ceased some if not all repair and refurbishment work due to parts shortages. Anyone else pick up on this from other sources?
                          The Russians never had a whole lot of T-90s, but they have thousands of T-72s, T-80s, BMP-2s in storage. Given what terrible shape Russian vehicles have been in mechanically despite being in active service, I doubt they can be quickly put into action, but they can cannibalize them for spares.
                          "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                          • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                            The Russians never had a whole lot of T-90s, but they have thousands of T-72s, T-80s, BMP-2s in storage. Given what terrible shape Russian vehicles have been in mechanically despite being in active service, I doubt they can be quickly put into action, but they can cannibalize them for spares.
                            I did find this.

                            https://fortune.com/2022/03/22/russi...s-ukraine-war/
                            If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                            • Also this on the general outlook for the Russian economy post sanctions. It makes glum reading (if you live in Russia).

                              https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias...ns-11647777600
                              If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.

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                              • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                                The Russians never had a whole lot of T-90s, but they have thousands of T-72s, T-80s, BMP-2s in storage. Given what terrible shape Russian vehicles have been in mechanically despite being in active service, I doubt they can be quickly put into action, but they can cannibalize them for spares.
                                Did they ever produce the T-14? I remember them showcasing it as the most advanced tank ever but the price tag was wild.

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