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  • TopHatter
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    Kremlin TV Hopes Russia’s Unhinged Ukraine War Claim Will Help Re-Elect Trump



    Putin’s invasion of Ukraine pitted Russia against most of the world, leaving Kremlin propagandists yearning for any tidbits of pro-Russian sentiment in the United States. These days, state television draws on a bounty of translated quotes almost exclusively from two Western voices: Tucker Carlson of Fox News and former U.S. President Donald J. Trump. They have a plan to reward them both: Carlson with a highly coveted interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and Trump with a freebie PR campaign designed to light his path back to the White House.

    Last Thursday, Russia’s Defense Ministry released a colorful diagram, purporting to demonstrate that President Joe Biden’s son Hunter, is secretly bankrolling the Pentagon’s biolabs in Ukraine, allegedly developing biological weapons to target Russia. The allegation was preposterous and was squeamishly avoided by the responsible mainstream media, but Tucker Carlson immediately latched on to it. Talking about the accusation later the same day, Carlson did his best to pre-empt any doubts about his motivation. He said: “What are the outlines of that story? We’re not sure. We know it’s legitimate to ask what it means, why wouldn’t it be? You’re not a Russian agent repeating discredited Putin talking points if you ask. You’re a good citizen.”

    Carlson’s disclaimers notwithstanding, Kremlin propagandists see the Hunter biolab material as just the right kind of toxic waste that can bury his father’s chances of re-election in 2024. On Sunday, Russian state TV host Vladimir Soloviev opened his program, Soloviev Live, with a clip of Tucker Carlson’s show from March 16. In the clip showcased by Russian propagandists, Carlson was berating Florida Congresswoman Maria Salazar for not forcing Ukraine to concede to Russia’s “peace deal,” which in essence demands nothing less than total capitulation. Carlson said, in part: “I’m just asking you: Has it occurred that many lives might be saved if we were to encourage the peaceful solution that’s already on the table? Are you doing anything in that direction?”

    Soloviev’s spectacle proceeded to showcase Russian strikes on the city of Lviv in western Ukraine, coinciding with Biden’s visit to Warsaw about 45 miles away over the border in Poland. The state TV propagandist, who often boasts of his close ties with the Kremlin, asserted that Russia bombed that particular city to send a direct message to Biden. Soloviev added that “cruise missiles hitting Lviv” were “the perfect response to Biden’s speech.” While the pro-Kremlin mouthpieces are seething with anger against the current U.S. president, they are still rooting for the return of his predecessor.

    Virtually connecting to the studio for his weekly appearance on the show was Dimitri Simes, who heads the Center for the National Interest. The Mueller report documented extensive interactions between Simes and his organization with top Trump campaign officials. The Center for the National Interest hosted candidate Trump’s first foreign-policy speech in 2016, attended by Sergey Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the United States. In 2015, the center arranged meetings with U.S. Treasury Department and Federal Reserve officials for convicted Russian agent Maria Butina and then-Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Alexander Torshin.

    Soloviev gushed about Simes: “I cherish his friendship.” Simes reciprocated: “For me, it’s always a great honor and great pleasure to appear on your program.” During their discussion, Soloviev brought up the biolab conspiracy theory and its potential impact on the presidential election in 2024. He said: “Russia served up a beneficial deck of cards for Trump, because the documents discovered in Ukraine, plus the evidence uncovered on Hunter Biden’s laptop, demonstrate the participation of Hunter Biden’s company in biological programs in Ukraine. A number of English-speaking media outlets have already picked it up, and of course, China clutched onto it. Can Trump’s people use this as a line of attack against Biden and his family?”

    Simes mused: “Not only can they do that, but they are already doing it. But this will be very difficult to accomplish, because the mainstream American media, perhaps with the exception of Fox News... mainly support Biden and not Trump. They’re constantly attempting to present any information that could harm Biden as some sort of underhanded intrigue, which somehow involves Russia and Vladimir Putin. There is now a new terminology in American journalism, which didn’t used to exist. They don’t say ‘Russia’s attack against Ukraine,’ or even ‘Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.’ It’s also not enough to describe it as ‘Russia’s aggression.’ That is now insufficient. They have to add ‘baseless and absolutely unprovoked.’ When Trump says something, they describe it as ‘Trump falsely claimed.’ When Tucker Carlson starts to say something—the leading commentator of Fox News—they immediately say that Tucker Carlson is speaking at the suggestion of Putin, that he is getting his writeups from Moscow.”

    Soloviev surmised: “Dimitri Konstantinovich [Simes] pointed out that you can’t hear this point of view anywhere—even on Fox News—with the sole exception of Tucker Carlson.”

    Back in 2021, during his TV show The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, the host pined for the return of his favorite American president: “Things were so good under Trump... Listen to Trumpushka.” After playing a clip of Trump’s interview with Sean Hannity, wherein the former president dismissed the idea of helping Ukraine fight off Russian aggression, Soloviev sighed: “[He is] so sorely missed.” Between the war in Ukraine, which is likely to become a prolonged struggle, and the crushing U.S. sanctions, only one candidate shows the promise of potentially erasing the consequences of Russian aggression and dramatically limiting America’s support for Ukraine. Clutching to these prospects, the Kremlin’s mouthpieces are openly signaling Russia’s intent to involve themselves in yet another U.S. election.
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    Russia Russia Russia still hasn't given up on their Useful Idiot. And he clearly hasn't given up on Russia.

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  • TopHatter
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    Mitt Romney Says A Trump Reelection Could Shake Up NATO Order

    Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) warned that a second term with Donald Trump as president could upend the NATO alliance.

    “I think if President Trump were to return as president that the nations of the world would say that they really have to rethink their own national security and the extent to which they want to be aligned with us and instead be aligned with someone else,”
    Romney told Kasie Hunt in an interview for CNN+ released Tuesday.

    Asked if Trump permanently damaged NATO, Romney — one of the few prominent Republicans willing to speak against Trump — said the former president’s America-first approach “frightens other members.”

    As president, Trump criticized NATO allies for spending too little on defense and cut the U.S. contribution to NATO’s collective budget from 22% to about 16% in 2019, according to CNN. The U.S. spent 3.7% of its GDP on defense in 2020, topping all 29 other countries that belong to the alliance, according to the BBC.

    John Bolton, a former national security adviser to Trump, told The Washington Post earlier this month that Russian President Vladimir Putin expected Trump to withdraw from NATO if he had won a second term in office.

    “In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think Putin was waiting for that.”


    President Joe Biden has sought to reaffirm the U.S. commitment to NATO amid Russia’s invasion of Ukraine by taking part in a summit in Brussels last week.

    Trump, 75, hasn’t declared himself a 2024 presidential candidate, but has repeatedly teased a comeback.
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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Red Team View Post

    Bulleit's new single barrel selection is top notch, definitely look out for that. Makers is great, though I have not had the pleasure of trying Whistlepig yet.

    Fun fact: until very recently, Bulleit actually contracted Four Roses to distill their stuff (albeit using Bulleit's proprietary mashbill recipes), so you might want to give Four Roses a try on your next tasting.

    All this whiskey talk is making me consider sharing my recent foray into the stuff on the old "What are you drinking" thread, or maybe even start a new thread altogether?
    I'm your huckleberry!

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  • Red Team
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    I am a fan of Bulleit. My buddy gave me a handle of Maker's Mark last Christmas so that also pleases the palate. Got to share a bottle of Whistle Pig with a buddy in February and it was a special night!
    Bulleit's new single barrel selection is top notch, definitely look out for that. Makers is great, though I have not had the pleasure of trying Whistlepig yet.

    Fun fact: until very recently, Bulleit actually contracted Four Roses to distill their stuff (albeit using Bulleit's proprietary mashbill recipes), so you might want to give Four Roses a try on your next tasting.

    All this whiskey talk is making me consider sharing my recent foray into the stuff on the old "What are you drinking" thread, or maybe even start a new thread altogether?

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Red Team View Post

    He came into his first real Whiskey tasting with only Jack Daniels no. 7 as a reference point. After giving him a tasting from six of my bottles, he is now a fan of the Four Roses lineup (Small Batch + Single Barrel).

    As an aside, he was also absolutely taken aback at the quality of vodka coming out of upstate NY, which as a NYer was a point of pride.
    I am a fan of Bulleit. My buddy gave me a handle of Maker's Mark last Christmas so that also pleases the palate. Got to share a bottle of Whistle Pig with a buddy in February and it was a special night!

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by Bigfella View Post

    Yahoo Serious is a legend. Greg Norman stopped being Australian when he skipped a golf tournament here so he could be with his kids for Thanksgiving.
    First I heard of him was in Young Einstein. Most folks hates it...I loved it.

    And Norman playing is how American's knew there was a place called Oz!!!

    And I stopped cheering for him when he cratered at the Masters in 1996.

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  • TopHatter
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    Originally posted by DOR View Post
    We can all see the divide in American politics: On one side, appeasement and apologists for dictators, and on the other side … not.
    We can also see who among us is on which side.
    They've made such a habit out of it, they can't break the cycle of abuse/willing victim

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  • zraver
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    Biden's own staff, privy to the best intell we can generate spent all weekend trying to undo his triple gaff. If he did not make the world less safe, why?

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  • zraver
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    Originally posted by Red Team View Post

    Pretty sure Putin made his "I'm putting my nuclear forces on high alert" threat and declared the West was in "total war" with Russia in response to the massive sanctions package, not Biden hurting his feelings.

    And if he really is willing to end the world over his fee-fees, then someone should put a round in his head.
    Yup, but the POTUS should not be saying it out loud. We went from from one nuclear power chest thumping, to two of them doing it. Look I hope my fears are misplaced and I am wrong about the results of Biden's idiocy. If my kids and grandkids get too grow old thinking Biden presaged a nuclear exchange with Russia will be the greatest and most welcomed mistake of my life. But until the war is over and tensions settle, I think escalation is a mistake.

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  • Red Team
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    Originally posted by zraver View Post
    Can someone please shut Biden up before he talks his way into WWIII. I know many here are part of Biden's bootlick army but jfc, calling for Putin to be removed, telling the 82nd they are going to Ukraine.... Ya I get he misspoke, that's the problem.

    Hope ya'll have bug out plans. We are closer to midnight after Biden's Polish extravaganza than at any other time. Wish we had a JFK and Russia had a Krushev.
    Pretty sure Putin made his "I'm putting my nuclear forces on high alert" threat and declared the West was in "total war" with Russia in response to the massive sanctions package, not Biden hurting his feelings.

    And if he really is willing to end the world over his fee-fees, then someone should put a round in his head.

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  • DOR
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    We can all see the divide in American politics: On one side, appeasement and apologists for dictators, and on the other side … not.
    We can also see who among us is on which side.

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  • Red Team
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    Any particular brands tickle his fancy?
    He came into his first real Whiskey tasting with only Jack Daniels no. 7 as a reference point. After giving him a tasting from six of my bottles, he is now a fan of the Four Roses lineup (Small Batch + Single Barrel).

    As an aside, he was also absolutely taken aback at the quality of vodka coming out of upstate NY, which as a NYer was a point of pride.

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  • zraver
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    Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
    The ‘Tear Down This Wall’ Moment Matters—The Walkback Doesn’t
    By Patti Davis

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    President Biden’s words will endure. The walk-back will fade
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    Endure like they have an atomic half-life is the fear. Gorby wanted to liberalize, Putin is going hard the other way. A better analogy would have been the bombing starts in 5 minutes. Except of course that comment was broadcast in real time to an enemy whose army was being taken apart at the seems just 300 miles away with an American/NATO forced pushed up against the border just 300 miles away.

    Putin is an evil shit who does need to go. I know it, you know it, we all know it. But Putin doesn't care what we know or say. We can do jack all about it. Putin does care what Biden says, either he is POTUS and his words have meaning or if his words mean diddly, they who is running the show? Nuclear showdown by committee vs strong man..... wooo boy. Biden's Polish trip was a disaster that made tensions worse. We(the world) are manifestly less safe today than we were last week. There were very clear rules about how the US/NATO confronted USSR/Russia. Either could supply weapons and advisors to kill the other sides troops but neither would directly challenge the other. Calling for regime change and saying you are sending US troops into the combat zone...

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  • Bigfella
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

    Left out Greg Norman and Yahoo Serious.
    Yahoo Serious is a legend. Greg Norman stopped being Australian when he skipped a golf tournament here so he could be with his kids for Thanksgiving.

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  • TopHatter
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    Boxer Vladimir Klitschko Condemns Tucker Carlson and Others Opposing Ukraine Aid: ‘Blood Is on Your Hands’

    Olympic gold medalist and former heavyweight champion boxer Wladimir Klitschko made a strong statement against conservative pundits who don’t believe America should lend support to Ukraine against the Russian invasion.
    He spoke out during a Monday appearance on Newsmax TV’s “The Balance.” When host Eric Bolling asked Klitschko about American conservatives – such as Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens – who believe the U.S. should take an isolationist stance on the war, he replied that there’s blood on the hands of anyone who doesn’t stand with Ukraine.

    “If you passively observe what is going on, and we do share the same principles of freedom and democratic principles, like the United States, like the Western world, so to speak,” Klitschko said. “If you are passively observing, you are part of this invasion. Blood is on your hands, too.”

    He continued, “If you still have business and trade with Russia, and you don’t isolate Russia economically, you’re bringing bullets and rockets into the Russian army’s hands that kills, today, the innocent.”

    Earlier in the segment, Klitschko – who is the younger brother of Kyiv’s mayor, Vitali Klitschko – insisted that Ukraine would remain strong and persevere through the attack.

    “We’re going to win this war, we’re going to defend our country, our homes our families, and our children,” he told Bolling. “Ukraine is a free nation and we will stand with it.”

    Since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, Carlson and Owens have echoed Vladimir Putin’s justification of its military action as “self-defense.” Carlson has repeatedly aired a conspiracy theory stating that the U.S. has secret bioweapons labs in Ukraine on his television show. Owens pins the blame for the war on the United States, supporting Putin’s claim that Russia was defending itself against the eastward expansion of NATO.

    Currently, the Russian army continues its attack on Ukraine’s forces in the east. Peace talks are scheduled to take place this week in Turkey between Putin and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
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    Sure would love to know why conservatives still have this fetish for sucking Putin's dick...

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