2022-2024 Russo-Ukrainian War

[Officer of Engineers]

Deng Xia Peng gave Putin the answer. Bargain Basement Prices. After Tianamen Square, the Chinese economy collapsed (take your pick: sanctions or real estate bubble burst). The recovery was undoubtedly the bargain basement prices to set up factories in China including no environmental fees and low labour (including low skilled labour) prices. Japan was the first to crack, investing in China right after Tianamen Square sanctions. Europe followed soon after. The last to crack was the US.

In contrast, Russia's economy has not collapsed, you have two European countries ready to buy Russian gas (Slovakia and Hungary), and Trump first to lift sanctions. The Russians have yet to offer bargain basement prices. Putin is in a lot better position than Deng was after Tianamen Square.

The Ukrainians, like the Chinese, come a distant second to bargain basement prices.

[Officer of Engineers]

The price of a fully armed North Korean division? A million barrels of oil

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr4pr0gyyzo

[Officer of Engineers]

Ukraine has lost over 40% of land it seized in Russia's Kursk region, senior Kyiv military source says

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...iv-2024-11-23/

[rj1]

Has anyone one found any reaction of the russian people regarding the fact that there are now north koreans fighting russia's war? And I don't mean any crud that comes ouf of offcial channels. I can't but wonder what the average Joe Russian thinks of this, both those for and against Putin.

Listening to Michael Kofman's podcast after a trip to Ukraine, I think what he said is all the North Koreans fighting are in Kursk only. That was to allow Putin to keep the Russian troops on offensive operations in Ukraine proper. Not much has really been said about this so I'm not sure if that's accurate, however if that's the case, it does mean the case can be made that North Korea are fighting with an ally in a purely defensive operation against invasion into their homeland (i.e. what Ukraine wishes the West would all do with troops on the ground).

[jlvfr]

The price of a fully armed North Korean division? A million barrels of oil

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr4pr0gyyzo

Plus whatever tech transfers we can't see yet...

[Officer of Engineers]

Plus whatever tech transfers we can't see yet...

Sure we can. When they set up the factories to produce such tech.

[Officer of Engineers]

Zelensky is a politician

[Officer of Engineers]

Not likely with the US

[Officer of Engineers]

Impressive. Very impressive.

[Officer of Engineers]

The more the things change, the more they more stay the same.

[Gun Grape]

Zelensky is a politician

But Zelensky points out no-one has yet made such an offer and whether Nato would consider a move is doubtful.

Because no country can join NATO that is currently involved in a conflict.

[Officer of Engineers]

Funny how Putin didn't invade the UKR under Poroshenko but did so under Zelensky when Kiev was undoubtly militarily weaker under Poroshenko.

The difference? There was zero doubt that Poroshenko was going to fight.The fault was political/diplomatic, not military. The proof? The Ukrainians drove the Russians from Kiev's city gates. However, I just have to wonder if Zelensky gave the mobilization order just 90 days earlier, would Putin have even dared.

[Officer of Engineers]

Russian forces have intensified their attacks along the front line over the past few weeks, pushed on by Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, who wants to capture as much land as possible before Donald Trump imposes a peace deal after being sworn in as US president in January.

It reported that the Ukrainian army had opened 60,000 cases of desertion this year already, more than the first two years of the war combined.

Ukraine ‘lacks strength’ to recapture areas


Ukraine is suffering from a military manpower shortage and Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, has admitted that Ukraine now does not have the strength to recapture areas of Ukraine occupied by Russia.

“Our army lacks the strength to do that. That is true,” said Mr Zelensky in an interview with Japan’s Kyodo news agencies on Sunday. “We have to find diplomatic solutions.”

Mr Zelensky has shifted his rhetoric since Mr Trump won the US election in November, dropping his insistence on defeating Russia militarily.

The Ukrainian president said for the first time on Friday that his country may have to give up some territory “temporarily” to end the war.

[Officer of Engineers]

Because no country can join NATO that is currently involved in a conflict.

Hell, he wants NATO to recapture Russian controlled Ukrainian lands for him

[Gun Grape]

Hell, he wants NATO to recapture Russian controlled Ukrainian lands for him
Hell, he wants NATO to recapture Russian controlled Ukrainian lands for him

Refuses to draft his 18-26 yr olds to defend his country.
Has no problem having NATOs 18 yr olds defend and die for his country