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  • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
    It's not "my" strategy. It is, however, the current trajectory of the conflict, it is in fact how reality is unfolding and events are playing out. It is how many of these types of conflicts have historically played themselves out. Given there's no credible alternative to the current trajectory of the conflict and reality of the situation, it is in my view the only realistic strategy to consider. Fight until Russia loses the political will to fight.
    There lies the danger of this strategy. Russian will may very well outlast Ukrainian will. Most certainly, Russian allies have outpaced Ukrainian allies. KJU alone has shipped more munitions in 6 months than all of NATO combined in 2 years. We're already seeing Zelansky unwilling to pay the political price for increased conscription. Putin has no such disadvantage politically. There is no Russian backlash against increased conscription. The Ukrainians are not ready to give up the fight but it does seem that they're unwilling, not unable, to go full in.
    Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 19 Apr 24,, 03:39.
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    • Tu-22 Backfire in a flatspin crashing to earth over Stavropol Krai in Russia.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...n_over_mozdok/
      "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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      • https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=2a43597c4e64
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        • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
          When you lack the firepower to stop the enemy you use cooks, clerks, untrained troops, whatever to staunch the bleeding. History is replete with examples of this. I think my favorite example of the Heavies at Spotsylvania.

          But back to Ukraine. Hopefully the new round of aid will help with the artillery amo constraints. I can tell you there is a large package ready to push forward.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain

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          • The Ukrainian politicos dithered for far too long on mobilization. the numbers-ratio in Donetsk is bad. even with mobilization now, it will be a long while before reinforcements show up in mass.

            if Chasiv Yar falls BEFORE the expected late-spring offensive, it is going to get ugly. the next few months are absolutely critical. if there's no collapse before fall, then the completion of the Ukrainian fortifications as well as units getting flushed out with people and ammo will START giving Ukraine a few options.

            There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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            • It's going to get ugly either way. A few towns will change hands but there will not be a march to the Crimeas nor to Kiev. Which population is going to get tired first.
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              • https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ys-2024-04-27/
                Russian missiles pound power plants in central and western Ukraine
                To all appearances, apparently Putin’s Russia has decided to emulate the Mongols of old!!!
                They too, often used a similar tactic!
                Where, if they couldn’t take; or more importantly…hold, an enemy territory, were often content with …laying it… waste!!!
                …then again; in layman’s eyes, it may be a response to the Ukrainian’s getting new arms and ammunitions!




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                • AP: Ukraine withdraws M1 Abrams tanks from frontlines due to drones

                  https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-r...a2130063a8fb7a

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                  • And speaking of drones. a Yak-52 being used to shootdown one.

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                    • Military intelligence general: Chasiv Yar's fall probably a matter of time

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                      • Not a game changer as such, but it is good to see a combat capability going to a friend in need before we do full blow out for US & NATO use.

                        This will be a combat multiplier. And as an acquisition dude I am glad to see we went from technical idea, operational proof of principle testing and production so quickly, giving how it ran up against other higher priorities in the production stream.


                        https://www.twz.com/air/jdam-er-wing...ded-to-ukraine

                        JDAM-ER Winged Bombs With Seekers That Home In On GPS Jammers Headed To Ukraine

                        Plans to give Ukraine JDAM-ERs with new seekers come as Western precision-guided munitions are reportedly suffering from Russian GPS jamming.

                        BYJOSEPH TREVITHICK|PUBLISHED MAY 3, 2024 8:02 PM EDTAIRNEWS & FEATURES

                        One of the JDAM-ER precision-guided bombs already supplied to Ukraine. via XSHARE


                        The U.S. Air Force is buying add-on seekers designed to give Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range (JDAM-ER) precision-guided bombs supplied to Ukraine the ability to zero in on GPS jammers. In effect, this would turn one of the weapons most impacted by this countermeasure into one used to directly attack it. This follows growing reports that Russian jamming is severely degrading the effectiveness of Western-supplied GPS-guided munitions, including JDAM-ERs.


                        The Pentagon announced today that the U.S. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center (AFLCMC) had awarded Cypress, California-headquartered Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. a contract valued at $23,554,341 for "the acquisition of Home-on GPS Jam seekers" and the "integration of the extended range seekers into existing Joint Direct Attack Munition wing kits."

                        "This contract involves Foreign Military Sales to Ukraine," the Pentagon's announcement also noted.

                        "Happy Ukrainian Independence Day!" Lieutenant General Mykola Oleshchuk.



                        JDAM-ERs have been in use in Ukraine since at least March 2023. The Ukrainian Air Force's Soviet-era MiG-29 Fulcrums and Su-27 Flankers are being used to employ these weapons with the help of specialized pylons and tablet-based control systems in their cockpits.

                        A JDAM-ER under the wing of a Ukrainian MiG-29 offering a good look at the specialized pylon used to employ these weapons from those aircraft, as well as Su-27s. via X
                        Details about the seeker system itself are limited, but Scientific Applications and Research Associates Inc. (SARA) has been developing capabilities like this for integration onto various precision-guided munitions for years now.

                        "Should an enemy strive to complicate the battlefield by stray or competitive RF energy, SARA’s HOJ subsystems can enable a host guided bomb or missile to engage it as the system or operator might prefer," according to a brochure the company put out circa 2018. "HOJ is compact and 1/10th the production cost of prior-generation systems. HOJ uses solid state components and a common munition interface which provides rapid, low-cost integration."

                        A graphic related to SARA from the circa 2018 company brochure. SARA
                        Additional details about SARA's radio-frequency homing offerings from the company's website. SARA
                        This is also not the first time that one of SARA's home-on-GPS-jam seekers has been integrated onto a U.S. precision-guided bomb.

                        In December 2020, the U.S. Air Force conducted a test as part of its Golden Horde networked munitions program that involved GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) each fitted with "a home-on-GPS-jam seeker that gathers information about the battlespace, a software-defined radio for communication between weapons, and a processor preloaded with collaborative algorithms," according to an official release at the time. The test also made use of "technology developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) and Scientific Applications & Research Associates."

                        GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bombs (SDB) with home-on-GPS-jam seekers that were employed in the December 2020 Golden Horde test. USAF
                        It may be possible to incorporate a home-on-GPS-jam capability into other Western-supplied precision-guided munitions for Ukraine in the future, including AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM). HARMs already have a home-on-jam capability, but it's not clear if GPS frequencies are within their existing range, if they could be readily modified to have that functionality, or if Ukrainian combat jets would have the ability to employ them in this mode.

                        Regardless, providing Ukraine with JDAM-ERs that can zero in on Russia's GPS jammers not only makes good sense, but it could be an increasingly critical capability.

                        Just last week, Bill LaPlante, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the Pentagon's top weapons buyer, talked about an unspecified precision-guided weapon system falling prey to a combination of GPS jamming and other factors. LaPlante, who was speaking at an open event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) think tank, did not name the weapon system, but provided details that strongly implied it was the Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (SDB), as you can read more about here.

                        "Excalibur precision artillery rounds initially had a 70% efficiency rate hitting targets when first used in Ukraine. However, after six weeks, efficiency declined to only 6% as the Russians adapted their electronic warfare
                        systems to counter it," Dr. Daniel Patt, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute think tank in Washington, D.C., said in written testimony submitted ahead of a hearing before members of the House Armed Services Committee back in March. Patt said this data had come by way of Dr. Jack Watling, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank in the United Kingdom. The 155mm Excalibur artillery shell uses a GPS-assisted guidance package.

                        There had been even earlier reports that JDAM-ERs and ground-launched 227mm Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) artillery rockets were also being negatively impacted by Russian GPS jamming.

                        Russia's use of GPS jamming extends well beyond Ukraine. In the Baltic region, Russia's employment of such systems, likely to try to protect critical facilities and assets from long-range Ukrainian drone attacks, has become so pronounced that it is now having serious and potentially dangerous impacts on commercial aviation.

                        The Baltic Jammer is in Kaliningrad. 5th proof, 3rd method. This time with numbers on likelyhood. We just need a statistician to tell us how sure we are. Surely over 9000. @PajalaJussi computed how many radio horizons of first jammed plane intersect. Here, heatmapped.



                        With all this in mind, arming Ukraine with munitions capable of homing in on Russian GPS jammers could be very valuable for targeting those systems and, by extension, helping to eliminate, or at least mitigate the impact, of the interference they cause. While destroying the emitters directly will certainly help other guided weapons get to their targets, the mere threat of being destroyed by a standoff weapon as a result of emitting should suppress the jammers' use. At the very least, it could result in them being activated for shorter periods of time before relocating.

                        The plan now to send JDAM-ERs equipped with the home-on-GPS-jamming seekers to Ukraine also raises the question about what kind of capabilities the U.S. military has in this regard that have not necessarily been publicly disclosed. The Air Force's release about the December 2020 Golden Horde test appeared to be the first official mention of the integration of this capability onto the SDB.

                        This is doubly important given that reports of how Russian GPS jamming had been degrading the capabilities of U.S-supplied precision-guided munitions have pointed to worrying vulnerabilities in precision-guided weapons that American forces, as well as various allies and partners, also use. This is something The War Zone highlighted after Under Secretary of Defense LaPlante's remarks last week. It makes sense then that the U.S. Air Force and the rest of the U.S. military would be eager to develop and field home-on-GPS-jam capabilities for its own use for the same reasons.

                        Altogether, the new contract to supply home-on-GPS-jam seekers for JDAM-ERs for Ukraine underscores that Russian jamming is a very real problem. It also points to work now being done to mitigate that issue, which could have ramifications well beyond this particular conflict.

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                        • I never realized before, it's a bit less than 200 miles from the border of Ukraine to Kaliningrad.
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                          • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                            I never realized before, it's a bit less than 200 miles from the border of Ukraine to Kaliningrad.
                            Just as a point of interest, wonder what is the range of the Ukrainian drones?
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                            • Originally posted by Amled View Post

                              Just as a point of interest, wonder what is the range of the Ukrainian drones?
                              Which models? And their cruise missiles exceed 1000 kms.
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                              • Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post

                                Which models? And their cruise missiles exceed 1000 kms.
                                So Kaliningrad is within striking distance.
                                Of course it would mean overflying either Poland or Belarus. Poland is a no-no as a NATO member, but Belarus has already chosen sides.
                                It allowed one prong of the invasion forces to be staged from their territory, and launched ballistic missiles against Ukraine.
                                But it’s all moot!!!
                                Ukraine is fighting with one arm tied behind its back! Even if it wanted, they are constrained from attacking Russian territory.

                                Probably why Putin is continuing his crap about not declaring war, and instead waging a “limited military operation”!


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