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  • Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

    Quite the haul by LTJG. Holden and Ramon...
    I see what you did there
    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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    • Originally posted by astralis View Post
      for those counting at home: first post, Russia lost 76 vehicles/arty in 2 days.

      second post, 45 vehicles in 1 day.

      today: 70 vehicles in a day -- a significant portion captured.

      https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status...17017938526216
      This put NATO to shame. Even in an active war against Kiev, Russia still supplies more weapons to the UKR than all of NATO combined.

      Chimo

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      • Originally posted by TopHatter View Post

        I see what you did there
        You're too quick for me...

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        • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
          This put NATO to shame. Even in an active war against Kiev, Russia still supplies more weapons to the UKR than all of NATO combined.
          And from this morning, no less than 9x T-80s captured from just one abandoned tank park in Izyum……

          https://twitter.com/rebel44cz/status...tJnYcek7ft38Qw
          There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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          • Reports coming in that the Russians are withdrawing from entire Kharkiv oblast.
            There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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            • Best tractor pull video yet.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com..._traffic_on_a/
              "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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              • Had the opportunity recently of talking to someone who had spent a couple of years stationed in Kiev.
                During the conversation; that mainly was related to the situation in the Ukraine,
                she brought up something that might have great relevance in the days/months ahead…MUD!!!
                Her memory of the country was that the fall rain was at least as heavy, as them during spring.
                We all saw the pictures of the Russian vehicles getting stuck in the mud,
                when they tried to go overland during the drive on Kiev, at the start of the campaign.
                So fall promises more of the same, but the question arises of who benefits most from thick sticky mud,...the Russians or the Ukrainians?
                Especially since much of the aid to the Ukrainians has included wheeled and tracked combat vehicles?

                When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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                • Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                  This put NATO to shame. Even in an active war against Kiev, Russia still supplies more weapons to the UKR than all of NATO combined.
                  A couple memes from Reddit:
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                  "Every man has his weakness. Mine was always just cigarettes."

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                  • Originally posted by Amled View Post
                    Had the opportunity recently of talking to someone who had spent a couple of years stationed in Kiev.
                    During the conversation; that mainly was related to the situation in the Ukraine,
                    she brought up something that might have great relevance in the days/months ahead…MUD!!!
                    Her memory of the country was that the fall rain was at least as heavy, as them during spring.
                    We all saw the pictures of the Russian vehicles getting stuck in the mud,
                    when they tried to go overland during the drive on Kiev, at the start of the campaign.
                    So fall promises more of the same, but the question arises of who benefits most from thick sticky mud,...the Russians or the Ukrainians?
                    Especially since much of the aid to the Ukrainians has included wheeled and tracked combat vehicles?
                    It's so famous there's a word in russian for it: rasputitsa.

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                    • ISW's Sept 10 Assessment

                      This has really been quite remarkable in the northeast. Assuming Ukraine is able to hold much of these gains, they'll pretty much have scoured Orcs from Udy through Vovchansk, Velykyi Burlak, Kupyansk, Izyum, Lyman and then east as far as Kreminna, looking right down onto Sieverodonetsk...and who knows what else in lower Donetsk and, obviously Kherson. Further possibilities exist along the Zaporozhe-Melitopol axis.

                      Culminating point is important but, if Russian combat power is eroding faster than Ukraine's, this isn't over. Morale and adrenaline are high and I don't think the fighting east of Kharkiv has been particularly debilitating for Ukraine's committed forces yet. They are probably suffering some dissipation as Russians leave villages faster than Ukrainians can re-occupy.

                      There's a HUGE social services challenge awaiting the west as winter approaches along with every reason to believe Russia would continue to remotely bombard the adjacent borderlands. I hope people have been working this problem already.

                      God, I hate those fcukers.

                      Last edited by S2; 11 Sep 22,, 18:54.
                      "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
                      "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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                      • Originally posted by Amled View Post
                        So fall promises more of the same, but the question arises of who benefits most from thick sticky mud,...the Russians or the Ukrainians?
                        Especially since much of the aid to the Ukrainians has included wheeled and tracked combat vehicles?
                        Same for both sides.

                        Chimo

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                        • Originally posted by Ironduke View Post
                          I want one. Will he deliver?

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                          • Ukraine needs to consider/project its culmination point. That should be where the military leadership can advise the following-

                            "Mr. President, given our present and projected troops and material, we can defend (pointing to a map w/finger) this periphery with absolute confidence until next spring."

                            Where that actual point is yet to be determined but these gains must not be lost while remaining aggressive and open to further possibilities. There's still a month plus of awesome campaigning weather and the ground will be frozen and fields moderately trafficable again by mid-December. There's much to prepare, however. PEACE will not immediately break out behind the front. The continual bombardment of Kharkiv is a clear example to the contrary. Somewhere must be an identified military zone, largely devoid of civilians. It will be near-impossible to sustain their lives through the winter if there's a 20km area in depth beyond the front that remains fluid and active. Further, it makes far more difficult securing military positions throughout the zone and requires aggressive counter-infiltration security.

                            I do believe Russia is incapable of mounting serious operational level offensive operations for at least four-six months and, quite possibly, longer. What we're seeing is the clear result of a Russian army too small and getting smaller defending frontages far beyond it's (ever diminishing) capacity. That won't be resolved soon for a myriad of real reasons. Consequently, there are no competently trained, equipped and sustained tank and combined arms armies looming on the immediate horizon.
                            "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
                            "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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                            • Looks like the Russians have launched a campaign against Ukrainian critical infrastructure with power blackouts in the Poltava, Kharkiv, Dnipro, Donetsk, Sumy, Zaporizhzhia regions, with some regions in complete blackout.

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                              • Via twitter the center of Moscow has been blocked off.

                                https://twitter.com/dangerkidsbooks/status/1568622184435949568

                                Meanwhile municipal deputies from one of Moscow's administrative districts are calling for Putin's resignation-

                                Moscow Municipal Lawmakers Demand Putin's Resignation-RFE/RL 9/10/22

                                I guess something similar happened about a week ago in an admin district of St. Petersburg.
                                "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
                                "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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