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  • #31
    Originally posted by lemontree View Post
    Is there anyway to enjoy bacon and keep your cholestrol levels low....
    Easy...don't let Her Highness get to know.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by lemontree View Post
      Is there anyway to enjoy bacon and keep your cholestrol levels low....
      Bacon is so overrated. I'm with DCL, I'd rather go for the Salamis.
      Cow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
      -Rekha Arya, Former Minister of Animal Husbandry

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tronic View Post
        Bacon is so overrated. I'm with DCL, I'd rather go for the Salamis.
        Nothing beats rice with good old mutton curry, done the bengali way - just stuffed my face full of the good stuff. I don't do booze, instead save money for ammo.

        By the way. what was the topic about again?
        "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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        • #34
          Originally posted by antimony View Post
          Nothing beats rice with good old mutton curry, done the bengali way......
          Which is this technique?
          I use the bundelkandi spicy style (common in the Indian army unit cook houses), the general north Indian style (Lucknowi style) and the rogan josh.

          Also refrain from posting anything negative about bacon...bacon can eaten from breakfast to dinner in any form.
          Try cutting it in thin shreds, sprinkle a bit of red chilli powder and grill or bbq it....goes well with scotch or any other cocktail.
          Last edited by lemontree; 01 Nov 12,, 05:07.

          Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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          • #35
            Anything mutton is nice.

            note to the wabbers, what we refer to as mutton is usually goat as opposed to technically meaning sheep like everywhere else in the world. Never could figure it out, one of those subcontinental quirks.
            Last edited by Double Edge; 01 Nov 12,, 10:26.

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            • #36
              DCL Reply

              Major,

              "Please help me out...now what's this "Pearl?:red:"

              Please note the below comment made earlier by Parihaka-

              "Hélas Etienne, en dehors de votre bonne auto il semble y avoir des perles devant les pourceaux"

              Translated: Etienne alas, apart from your good self there seems to be pearls before swine.

              This is Pari's way of suggesting good effort pointlessly generated in reply to cheap provocation.

              Bacon (or ANY food, really) is a far, far preferable topic in light of the alternative.
              "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
              "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs

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              • #37
                Originally posted by lemontree View Post
                Is there anyway to enjoy bacon and keep your cholestrol levels low....
                Wine

                If it doesn't help, try Red wine ;)
                No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

                To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by S2 View Post
                  Please note the below comment made earlier by Parihaka-

                  "Hélas Etienne, en dehors de votre bonne auto il semble y avoir des perles devant les pourceaux"

                  Translated: Etienne alas, apart from your good self there seems to be pearls before swine.

                  This is Pari's way of suggesting good effort pointlessly generated in reply to cheap provocation.
                  He got your name right but that 'bonne auto' came across to me as 'nice automobile' (!)

                  I'm not sure what the exact expression (bonne soi ?) is but auto ain't it. Auto is normally used as a prefix ie self-taught is auto-didact.

                  Pari is always the cunning linguist

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                  • #39
                    Double Edge Reply

                    "Pari is always the cunning linguist"

                    So too those inscrutable lingua gremlins at GOOGLE TRANSLATE.
                    "This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lemontree View Post
                      Which is this technique?
                      I use the bundelkandi spicy style (common in the Indian army unit cook houses), the general north Indian style (Lucknowi style) and the rogan josh.
                      Ahh, mutton curry - the quintessential Sunday afternoon comfort food. Bongs are supposed to be fish lovers, but Sunday used to be reserved for mutton (goat meat). There used to be queues outside butcher shops and moms would make a deliciously yummy curry with potatoes, to be had with rice. So you have slow cooked/ pressure cooked mutton with spices, with potatoes which have the meat flavours infused in them on rice. After that, a long siesta

                      If you want to know more : Mangshor Jhol – Bengali Mutton Curry | eCurry - The Recipe Blog
                      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~ Epicurus

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by antimony View Post
                        Ahh, mutton curry - the quintessential Sunday afternoon comfort food. Bongs are supposed to be fish lovers, but Sunday used to be reserved for mutton (goat meat). There used to be queues outside butcher shops and moms would make a deliciously yummy curry with potatoes, to be had with rice. So you have slow cooked/ pressure cooked mutton with spices, with potatoes which have the meat flavours infused in them on rice. After that, a long siesta

                        If you want to know more : Mangshor Jhol – Bengali Mutton Curry | eCurry - The Recipe Blog
                        Thanks, this style is similar to the method I use, except that I do not marinate it. And yes I agree with you nothing like plain rice and a nice spicy mutton curry.

                        Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                          Afghanistan must extradite Fazlullah, Grossman told

                          By: Maqbool Malik | October 22, 2012


                          ISLAMABAD - Pakistan has forcefully taken up the issue of cross-border attacks from Afghanistan with US special envoy Marc Grossman, and sought his help in persuading the Afghan government and ISAF to quell insurgents’ infiltrations into Pakistan side, diplomatic sources said on Sunday. “The civil and military leadership made clear to the US that militants, who had fled the country during the Swat military operation and were operating from Afghanistan’s Kunar and Nuristan provinces, should be extradited to Pakistan,” the sources confided to The Nation. The authorities impressed upon Grossman to take the matter seriously, as cross-border attacks, led by former TTP Swat commander Maulvi Fazalullah and his fighters, were destabilising Pakistan. The US diplomat praised Pakistan’s role in stabilising the political process in Afghanistan, saying that Pak-US cooperation should continue on the matters of anti-terrorism. “We have many shared interests - including terrorism, supporting a stable and secure Afghanistan, increasing market access and economic opportunity, and supporting civilian democracy, tolerance, pluralism, and civil society,” Grossman was quoted as having said in a statement issued by the US Embassy at the conclusion of his two-day visit to Pakistan on Sunday.Grossman appreciated Pakistan’s support for an Afghan political process through the US-Afghanistan-Pakistan Core Group, and noted that “we want to continue our important coordination on the border and to counter terrorism in the region. We want to work together to find ways to cooperate to make Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the region secure, stable, and prosperous”. “The frank, honest, and respectful conversations we had are essential to furthering the vital relationship between the United States and Pakistan and to ensuring our shared security and economic prosperity,” he added.The US top diplomat headed into talks with Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani in Islamabad on how the United States and Pakistan could work together to identify shared interests and act on them jointly. Grossman’s visit follows recent engagements, including Secretary Clinton’s meetings with Foreign Minister Khar in Washington and President Zardari in New York in September, as well as the recent Pakistan-US Law Enforcement and Counterterrorism agreement.

                          Afghanistan must extradite Fazlullah, Grossman told | The Nation

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                          Well, Musharraf demanded the extradition of the terrorist leader Brahamdegh Bugti and his 'band of merry terrorists' from Afghanistan as well, and was met with repeated denials that 'Bugti was not present in Afghanistan and that Pakistan was paranoid' etc.

                          Given that the terrorist Bugti ended up being sheltered in Afghanistan by the GoIRA and the US, and then facilitated in escaping to apply for asylum in Switzerland, perhaps the terrorists can start a new marketing campaign:

                          "Is a life in the Swiss Alps your dream?

                          Form or join an anti-Pakistan terrorist group and get the GoP's attention through acts of violence and carnage and the West will facilitate your flight for asylum to Switzerland!"
                          Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                          And here is yet another account of a terrorist leader hiding in, and operating from, Afghanistan:

                          Fugitive Sindhudesh chief operating from Kabul


                          By Amir Mir
                          Wednesday, October 17, 2012
                          From Print Edition

                          ISLAMABAD: Wanted for his alleged role in several terrorist activities across Sindh, Shafi Burfat, the fugitive chief of the Jeay Sindh Muttahida Muhaz (JSMM) who is also the moving spirit behind the Sindhudesh Liberation Army (SLA), is now well beyond the reach of the Pakistani agencies, having already fled to Afghanistan and established his control centre in Kabul.

                          Well-placed officials in security agencies which are investigating the November 9, 2012 bomb attacks targeting the houses of six PPP leaders in different towns of Sindh, have concluded that the attacks were carried out by the Sindhudesh Liberation Army under instructions from Shafi Burfat, one of the most wanted terrorists, being sought by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of Sindh for years. Burfat carries head money of Rs5 million.

                          Although the pamphlets left behind by saboteurs at several sites of low-intensity bomb explosions, were signed by Dilawar Khan, the investigating agencies say Burfat had ordered these attacks from his control centre in Kabul. They also claim that the Burfat-led JSSM and SLA were being funded by the Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) which has a heavy presence in Afghanistan and which also funds some of the Baloch separatist groups.

                          According to the information collected by the Pakistani security agencies, besides using satellite phones and email to communicate with his JSSM and SLA operators in Sindh, the renegade Sindhi nationalist-turned-militant boss openly uses Face Book and Twitter to spread his message. Burfat’s Face Book account introduces himself as “a Guevarian leader who struggles for the freedom of Sindhudesh from the occupation of Pakistan.” In his latest tweet on October 10, 2012, Burfat refers to the previous independent status of Sindh which had a liberal society and asks as to how the state of Pakistan can support the current war against terror when its own foundation is laid on religious fanaticism. “We are ready to be burnt alive and die fighting but we would neither surrender nor abandon our goal of freedom”, he tweets.

                          In another tweet, Shafi Burfat claims to be leading a non-violent political movement for the liberation of Sindh through peaceful means.

                          While refuting his followers’ involvement in some recent acts of violence and terrorism in various parts of Sindh, Shafi Burfat accuses the state agencies of involvement in the disappearance and killings of dozens of the JSSM workers and leaders in recent years. While accusing the state agencies of killing the JSSM secretary general Muzaffar Bhutto, Burfat tweets that the growing atrocities of the state agencies against Sindhi nationalists would plunge Sindh into Balochistan-style mayhem. The bullet-riddled body of Bhutto, who was one of Burfat’s most-trusted men, was recovered from Hyderabad on May 22, 2012, almost 15 months after his February 23, 2011 abduction. Although such incidents are common in Balochistan, Bhutto’s case was the first one in Sindh in which a missing nationalist leader’s bullet-riddled body was found. Following his abduction, Saima Muzaffar, wife of Muzaffar Bhutto, told Asma Jahangir, the chairperson of Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), that her husband might be murdered by the agencies in captivity. In a May 23, 2012 press release, the HRCP had described Muzaffar Bhutto as one of the many victims of enforced disappearance by the state agencies in Sindh. “The abduction and subsequent murder of nationalist leader Muzaffar Bhutto is the latest manifestations of violent suppression of political debate. The Pakistan government must ensure that the state agencies are reined in and dissent and struggle for political rights are not countered by violence or strong-arm tactics”, the HRCP statement added.

                          On May 25, 2012, two days after Muzaffar’s dead body was found, the Sindhudesh Liberation Army, the military wing of the Jeay Sindh Muttahida Muhaz, claimed responsibility for the gruesome killing of seven passengers of a Kohat-bound bus that was sprayed with bullets by masked gunmen of the SLA on the National Highway near Nawabshah, the hometown of President Asif Ali Zardari. Likewise, the SLA also conducted a series of 16 low-intensity blasts targeting the railway tracks in Sindh and suspending train traffic on February 25, 2011.

                          Following Muzaffar Bhutto’s killing, Burfat had written a letter to UN Secretary General Ban Ki moon, asking him to take notice of the growing human rights violations against the people of Sindh. He had alleged in his letter that many of the JSSM workers remain missing like the nationalists of Balochistan; they are kept incommunicado and never produced in courts.

                          However, well-placed officials of security agencies have strongly refuted allegations of involvement in the abductions and killings of the JSSM activists. “Shafi Burfat, who himself is a fugitive from the law, is only trying to tarnish the image of the Pakistani security agencies at the behest of his foreign masters who fund him and pull his strings to carry forward their anti-Pakistan agenda”, a senior security official added.

                          Fugitive Sindhudesh chief operating from Kabul - thenews.com.pk
                          Originally posted by S2 View Post
                          Zain,

                          Vous êtes un provocateur et un premier comedian. D'accord?

                          Etienne.
                          Why do you find the above posts provocative or comedic? If I remember correctly, until US and Afghan denials about Bugti hiding in Afghanistan were exposed as blatant lies by leaked US diplomatic cables, Pakistani claims were treated as 'paranoid conspiracy theories', and now that the evidence is largely undeniable the best you can do is offer snide comments and personal attacks apparently.
                          Last edited by Agnostic Muslim; 16 Nov 12,, 17:58.
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