Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Osama Bin Laden is dead and his corpse is in US hands.

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Yeah, thats prolly for the best. Since when is a photo proof of anything these days. Certainly won't be enough to the doubters.

    The best proof is Al-Q saying it happened. Don't think they've made any statements yet.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
      Yeah, thats prolly for the best. Since when is a photo proof of anything these days. Certainly won't be enough to the doubters.

      The best proof is Al-Q saying it happened. Don't think they've made any statements yet.
      Sensitivities be damned. You can blow your nose and some of these people would be offended. Show it.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
        What about this house for sale in Peshawar?



        Does it look 'sufficiently suspicious' with its large gate and 'high boundary walls'?
        how much would a house like that cost??
        "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" B. Franklin

        Comment


        • Should release the pics, forget the issue of proof or if people who support terrorism will be sad, the American public wants them.
          To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

          Comment


          • They showed Hussein's sons purportedly because "The Iraqi people deserve to see them." Hmmm. I'm a bit puzzled, but oh well.

            Now we'll simply have to wait for the photos to be leaked by "unknown persons" within the government. ;) Deniability + satisfy the public.

            Comment


            • I hope they don't show them. It won't make a bit of difference to the conspiracy theorists.

              I haven't seen any kind of public outcry demanding the pictures.

              He's fish food, we all know it- that's good enough for me.
              "We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008

              Comment


              • Originally posted by Chogy View Post
                They showed Hussein's sons purportedly because "The Iraqi people deserve to see them." Hmmm. I'm a bit puzzled, but oh well.

                Now we'll simply have to wait for the photos to be leaked by "unknown persons" within the government. ;) Deniability + satisfy the public.
                These pictures won't get released. No one will leak them. Trust me when I say, there is probably one copy, and it's locked up in the CIA somewhere... unless of course, they released pictures to congressional staff, then you can see it being leaked.

                I don't think we will see them, for a long long time... when they declassify stuff. Like the JFK stuff.
                sigpic

                Comment


                • Originally posted by Agnostic Muslim View Post
                  What about this house for sale in Peshawar?



                  Does it look 'sufficiently suspicious' with its large gate and 'high boundary walls'?



                  =





                  sigpic

                  Comment


                  • Screw the conspiracy theorists.

                    Release the damn pictures.

                    I just wanna see Osama with a hole in his head.

                    It would give me great entertainment value....

                    Comment


                    • Are we done with the Pak vs. everyone else yet?

                      I have one question regarding this incident. What's the difference between ST6 and Delta Force in terms of mission? It seems that both of them are tasked with counter-terrorism. So why need separate forces?

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by drhuy View Post
                        Are we done with the Pak vs. everyone else yet?

                        I have one question regarding this incident. What's the difference between ST6 and Delta Force in terms of mission? It seems that both of them are tasked with counter-terrorism. So why need separate forces?
                        different armed services

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by rj1 View Post
                          different armed services
                          well, basically what i thought, another service-centric mentality driven decision?

                          Comment


                          • There might be an explanation for this.

                            Originally posted by calass View Post
                            I do not see any loopholes...

                            The CIA chief has made clear that he does not trust Pakistanis. Not that I can blame him..Bin Laden stayed in that house for atleast 5 years..less than 2 miles for a major military installation. Pakistan is supposed to be a country at war with the military being frequent targets.It is unbelievable that atleast some aspects of the Pakistani military did not know who was there.
                            Could be that the US spend several years to secure the Pakistani nukes to make sure they cannot possibly fall into fundamentalist hands.

                            And only after the 1st objective has been achieved went after Bin Laden.

                            Of course the whole Pakistani nuke aspect of this war will remain classified for at least for our lifetimes.

                            Comment


                            • Bin Laden’s daughter confirms her father shot dead by US Special Forces in Pakistan
                              Bin Laden
                              Wednesday, 04 May 2011
                              Osama bin Laden’s daughter confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation . (File photo)

                              Osama bin Laden’s daughter confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation . (File photo)

                              By MUSHTAQ YUSUFZAI
                              Special to Al Arabiya

                              Senior Pakistani security officials said Osama bin Laden’s daughter had confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation carried out at the huge compound in Bilal Town, Abbottabad. 
 


                              Besides recovering four bullet-riddled bodies from the compound, Pakistani security agencies also arrested two women and six children, aged between 2 and 12 years, after American forces flew toward Afghanistan. Some reports suggest 16 people, including women and children, were arrested from the house, most of them Arab nationals.

                              A Pakistani security source told Al Arabiya that Bin Laden family members had been transported to Rawalpindi, which is near Islamabad. He added, “They are now under treatment in the military hospital of Rawalpindi, where they have been transported in an helicopter.” A source told Al Arabiya that Bin Laden’s had been injured either in her leg or her shoulder.


                              He added that the members of the household were children and Bin Laden’s wife, in addition to a Yemeni woman. He added that the woman might be the personal doctor of the family. Bin Laden was known to be afflicted with renal failure.

                              Sources speculated that US Forces could not arrest these family members because there weren’t enough places for them in the helicopter, after they lost another chopper during the operation.

                              About the slain woman: officials said she could either be Bin Laden’s wife or a close family member since she offered to sacrifice her life for him. “As per our information, she shielded Bin Laden during the operation and was killed by American commandos,” an official said.
                              


                              The US Special Forces only took two bodies with them in the military chopper; one is said to be Bin Laden’s and the other his son’s. By the time Pakistani security agencies and soldiers arrived at the spot, the US commandos were flying over the mountains in the Pakistani tribal belt, well on their way to Afghanistan. 



                              Sources said one of the two women taken into custody from the compound by Pakistani forces was one of Osama bin Laden’s several wives.

                              “She is Yemeni and became unconscious during the operation,” said an official. Pleading anonymity, he said the woman was provided necessary medical aid till she became conscious. 



                              “During preliminary investigations, the lady said they moved to the Abbottabad house five to six months ago,” the Pakistani official said, adding that she did not provide further information about bin Laden or his shifting to the house. 



                              The official said a 12-year-old daughter of bin Laden was among the six children rescued from the three-storey compound.

                              The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members. 



                              According to sources, Bin Laden was staying on the ground floor of the house and was dragged on the floor to the helicopter after being shot dead by US commandos. 



                              There were conflicting reports about the second person the US forces took along with them. Some Pakistani officials say it was one of Bin Laden’s sons injured by the US commandos and thrown onto a separate military chopper; others say he was killed in the operation and it was only his dead body that they took along. 



                              The officials say not all children rescued from the house belonged to the al-Qaeda leader. All were being kept at a safe place. The US has not been given access to the detained women and children, the officials claimed. About the second woman, many officials feel she could be a close relative of Osama or his servant. 



                              Similarly, according to information Pakistani officials collected from detained persons, Osama was neither armed nor did inmates at the compound fire at the US choppers or commandos.

                              “Not a single bullet was fired from the compound at the US forces and their choppers. Their chopper developed some technical fault and crashed and the wreckage was left on the spot,” a well-informed official explained. 


                              Meanwhile, Pakistani security forces maintained a cordon around the compound and its surrounding areas and did not allow the media access to the area until the remaining wreckage of the US military chopper was removed. Some media were given access to the spot but no one was allowed to enter the compound.

                              The Pakistan Army has sealed two main entrances of the house and deployed military and police for its protection. 



                              A sizeable number of national and international journalists have arrived in Abbottabad to cover the extraordinary story. Before opening the area to the media, Pakistani soldiers shifted two buffaloes, a cow and around 150 hens from the compound to an unknown location. 



                              Security officials said they did not recover any arms and explosives during their detailed search of the compound on Monday and Tuesday. Also, they said, it was a simple house comprising 13 rooms, six on the ground floor and the remaining on the first and second floors.

                              “There was no bunker or tunnel inside the house and that’s why I don’t understand why the world’s most wanted man would have decided to live here,” a senior official said. 



                              He said two brothers, Arshad Khan and Tariq Khan, owned the house. Both belonged to Tangi area in Charsadda district. Officials said they had no information about the two brothers and their business. 



                              According to a neighbor, the dwellers of the compound never mixed with anyone.

                              “It was a very reserved family and never attended any wedding or funeral ceremony in the area,” said Qari Mastana Khan of Bilal Town. “But they were kindhearted and would provide clean drinking water and food to poor neighbors. During the holy month of Ramadan, they invited us for Iftar dinner at their house and served us delicious food. Arshad Khan had three kids and his brother Tariq four,” Khan added. 



                              Another interesting aspect, which the residents shared about the house and its inmates, was the strict behavior of the family, who in the last six years, had never allowed women of the neighborhood to enter their house or permitted their own ladies to visit neighbors. Also, children playing in the streets and nearby fields were never allowed into the compound, not even when their balls inadvertently went across. 



                              “Usually, when their ball falls past the wall of a house, the children just go there and pick it up but they were never allowed into this particular house. Whenever their ball fell there and the children went to retrieve it, whoever opened the door gave them money to buy a new ball instead of allowing them to enter and search for their ball,” said an elder of the area, Mohammad Fayaz. 



                              He said all these details made him suspicious but were not enough to make him believe the world’s most wanted man was hiding in his neighborhood.

                              (Al Arabiya’s correspondent in Islamabad relayed this article.)
                              To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

                              Comment


                              • Senior military officials confirmed that Pakistan army troops were providing backup support when the United States began its operations inside the compound. And residents in the area said that two hours before the operation was launched, Pakistani army personnel ordered them to switch off their lights inside and outside their homes and remain indoors until further orders.

                                “The army personnel cordoned off the entire area long before we heard the sounds of helicopters hovering over the area,” said Zulfikar Ahmed, who lives in the town of Bilal, where bin Laden’s compound is located.

                                A senior Pakistani intelligence official told GlobalPost that intelligence officers in Pakistan and the United States had, in fact, shared information about bin Laden’s presence a week before U.S. President Barack Obama approved the operation.

                                “Gen. David Petraeus had paid an extraordinary visit to Islamabad on April 25, and held a one-on-one meeting with Gen. Kayani [Pakistani army chief], in which they discussed the details of the operation,” the official said.

                                Osama bin Laden | Pakistan

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X