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  • kato
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    Originally posted by DOR View Post
    2. [for school kids] So me, wearing a bulletproof backpack to school with metal detectors, armed guards and routine mass-shooter drills is “the price of freedom,” but, you, wearing a mask in Walmart for 10 minutes is “tyranny” ?
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  • DOR
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    Favorite T-shirts:

    1. If you don't need a mask because God will protect you, why do you need a gun?

    2. [for school kids] So me, wearing a bulletproof backpack to school with metal detectors, armed guards and routine mass-shooter drills is “the price of freedom,” but, you, wearing a mask in Walmart for 10 minutes is “tyranny” ?




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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    Was thinking more specifically a shooting spree over mask rules at a retail outlet with people killed. Can only find that one in Georgia at a quick glance.
    Oh yeah, that is what I meant.

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  • kato
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    Originally posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Sadly, Kato, there have been numerous examples of violence in our country against standard public health measures.
    Was thinking more specifically a shooting spree over mask rules at a retail outlet with people killed. Can only find that one in Georgia at a quick glance.

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    Think that might be a first outside the US: In Germany a gas station employee was fatally shot on saturday after telling a customer that he had to put on a mask to buy beer there. He actually first went home, came back with his mask on, repeated his beer-buying attempt and while paying pulled down the mask and instead raised the gun he had brought to shoot the employee in the head. The perpetrator has confessed to the act and the motive, primarily founded in a personal anti-lockdown stance.

    (In the US there was a similar case in June)
    Sadly, Kato, there have been numerous examples of violence in our country against standard public health measures.

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  • kato
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    Think that might be a first outside the US: In Germany a gas station employee was fatally shot on saturday after telling a customer that he had to put on a mask to buy beer there. He actually first went home, came back with his mask on, repeated his beer-buying attempt and while paying pulled down the mask and instead raised the gun he had brought to shoot the employee in the head. The perpetrator has confessed to the act and the motive, primarily founded in a personal anti-lockdown stance.

    (In the US there was a similar case in June)
    Last edited by kato; 21 Sep 21,, 13:32.

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  • kato
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    Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post

    A security workup would too, but if the USS Hornet can do that on every new volunteer then it can be done...
    Got my second jab at a similar central vaccination center last week, highly streamlined processes.

    Simple streamlined process:
    • checkin counter (military)
      • civilian assistant sorting people in incoming waiting area to booths for registration
        • booth row 1 : registration (handled by uniformed DLRG employees in my case - SAR/water rescue organization)
        • booth row 2 : vaccine information (civilian doctor - some probably indian guy with broken German in my case)
        • booth row 3 : jab (separate civilian doctor)
      • civilian assistant observing people for 10-minute period in outgoing waiting area before letting them go
    • checkout counter (military)
    New filled syringes were brought in from non-visible back to row 3. Single person, no 2-person control. Setup is such that as a patient you can pretty much only run that circuit with no way to slip in or out inbetween.

    The place here is set up in a former supermarket in a former US housing area outside town. Entrance and exit are controlled (two uniformed guards at gate, third sitting in container behind them if there's problems - private security company), as are the entrance and exit to the building itself (civilian security guard, "conveniently" placed outside break area for the soldiers...).

    They'll be closing that place next week since the central vaccination campaign is considered over.

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  • tbm3fan
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    That would cost money though.
    A security workup would too, but if the USS Hornet can do that on every new volunteer then it can be done...

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    That would cost money though.
    Good point!

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  • kato
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    That would cost money though.

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Originally posted by kato View Post
    P.S. with regard to the high numbers:

    It's a district vaccination center with full-scale assembly line organization. This nurse in that process never had to do with patients, her only job was taking syringes and drawing vaccine into them before handing them down into the vaccination lines. One dose goes down those lines every 30 seconds pretty much, which is how they get to the almost 10,000 people. It is likely that she only handled part of these doses though, there is no documentation exactly which syringe which doctor took off of the stack, and which of the nurses drawing them up handled which syringe. Among those from the "accident" day that could be checked for levels about 20% - including the six that are known to only have gotten saline - never developed antibodies and were thus re-vaccinated.

    Of course she's silent about the accusations. It's somewhat doubtable they can frame her with much, other than the six doses from the "i dropped one" accident she admitted to - that's also the only cases she's been charged for so far.
    My wife ran vaccinations for her hospital clinic for about 6 weeks in FEB-APR this years.

    The vaccine & syringes were under 2 person control once they were cracked out teh box right up to the injection.

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  • kato
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    P.S. with regard to the high numbers:

    It's a district vaccination center with full-scale assembly line organization. This nurse in that process never had to do with patients, her only job was taking syringes and drawing vaccine into them before handing them down into the vaccination lines. One dose goes down those lines every 30 seconds pretty much, which is how they get to the almost 10,000 people. It is likely that she only handled part of these doses though, there is no documentation exactly which syringe which doctor took off of the stack, and which of the nurses drawing them up handled which syringe. Among those from the "accident" day that could be checked for levels about 20% - including the six that are known to only have gotten saline - never developed antibodies and were thus re-vaccinated.

    Of course she's silent about the accusations. It's somewhat doubtable they can frame her with much, other than the six doses from the "i dropped one" accident she admitted to - that's also the only cases she's been charged for so far.
    Last edited by kato; 11 Aug 21,, 15:54.

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  • Albany Rifles
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    Geebus!

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  • kato
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    An anti-vaccer nurse at a vaccination center in North Germany apparently prepped syringes with saline solution only.

    The woman came to public note when in an incident on April 21st the switch was discovered by another nurse. She initially claimed to her colleague that she had dropped a dose and was covering her mistake that way, but was reported for it. As a precaution the center called in all 197 people jabbed that day for antibody tests at the time. On May 1st the employer had sufficient data to assume there may not have been such an "accident" (by that time antibody results were in for all 80 people who had received their second jab, which none showing the necessary antibody levels) and both fired the woman and reported her to police.

    Police investigations found that the woman was posting conspiracy stuff online and is thus assumed to have had a political motive and to have done so throughout the time she worked there. It is somewhat assumed that she fully intentionally hired on as a temp nurse with the Red Cross to get into the vaccination center.

    Based upon her shift plans throughout the time she worked there authorities are now assuming 9,673 vaccinations on 8,557 people between March 5th and April 20th to have been tampered with. The affected - 8.7% of the county's population - have been invited to get new vaccinations, they're actually postponing the closure of the center originally planned for Sep 30th. For the 1,116 for whom both vaccinations were performed during her shift times they're offering Johnson & Johnson, as it only needs one jab.

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  • kato
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    Belgium is currently hunting a rightwing-extremist soldier who disappeared from his base with multiple weapons, including an assault rifle and some anti-tank rockets. He left behind a note stating he "would not be caught alive". The man previously threatened a virologist who works as a senior advisor with regard to the pandemic for the Belgian government.

    Some of the rockets have been found with his car so far.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57168576

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