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  • #31
    Originally posted by GVChamp View Post
    Putin is behaving aggressively only towards the West, because he sees no other option to defend Russia's core interests
    Apart from a few overflights I don't see him being aggressive toward the west. He is being aggressive to former client states such as Chechnya, Ukraine, Georgia and of course now Syria. He just pretends to his captive Russian audience that he's being tough toward the west.
    In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

    Leibniz

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
      At their current rate of military spending and interest in their own defense?

      Learn how to speak Russian.
      They've learned how to say Гaз.
      https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/11...ampaign=buffer
      Last edited by Doktor; 12 Sep 15,, 07:23.
      No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

      To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by GVChamp View Post
        I was being facetious. Apologies that didn't come through. What does the EU do when the US leaves NATO?
        My apologies. Build nukes.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GVChamp View Post
          That's my concern. Russian troops were in Berlin in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries, and there's no reason to assume they won't be back in the 21st. The saving grace is that Russia will probably not be the obscene military powerhouse it was in prior centuries and so probably won't make it to Paris or London.
          The other side of the coin is that the Germans were in Russia more times than the Russians were on German ground.
          Chimo

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          • #35
            OOE is back . Hurrah!!!!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
              The other side of the coin is that the Germans were in Russia more times than the Russians were on German ground.
              Remind me again, why they never stayed?
              No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

              To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

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              • #37
                Same reason as every other failed occupancy. Not enough money.
                Chimo

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                • #38
                  Swedish - Polish defence agreement signed yesterday:

                  http://www.regeringen.se/pressmeddel...rtecknat-idag/
                  http://www.thelocal.se/20150914/swed...-military-ties

                  (first one in reindeer lingo)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by snapper View Post
                    My apologies. Build nukes.
                    They've got hundreds, but it doesn't matter unless you're willing to use them.

                    Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
                    The other side of the coin is that the Germans were in Russia more times than the Russians were on German ground.
                    Absolutely, but I think post-Adenauer Germany will behave differently than post-Frederick Germany, at least for a long while.
                    "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood"-Otto Von Bismarck

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                    • #40
                      Sweden boosts military spending, expands draft amid Russia tensions

                      STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden will boost military spending by around 40% over the next five years and double the numbers conscripted into the armed forces as it looks to beef up its defence amid growing tensions with Russia, the government said on Thursday.

                      Sweden, which is not a member of NATO but enjoys close ties with the bloc, ran down its military after the end of the Cold War to save money.

                      "We have a situation where the Russian side is willing to use military means to achieve political goals," Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist told reporters. "Based on that, we have a new geo-political security situation to deal with."

                      Hultqvist said the new proposals would mean an increase in the military budget of 27.5 billion Swedish crowns ($3.10 billion) by 2025.

                      Increased Russian activity in the Baltic Sea region has pushed Sweden into a hasty programme of rearmament, including the purchase of Patriot missiles from the United States.

                      Last month, Sweden protested to Moscow after two warships entered its territorial waters without permission and has repeatedly complained about Russian military planes flying too close to its own aircraft and violating Swedish airspace.

                      The government said the military budget would be increased successively between 2021 and 2025, and would fund an expansion of military personnel to around 90,000 from the current 60,000, including a new mechanised brigade with updated artillery.

                      The navy will get an extra submarine, increasing the number to five, and the corvette fleet will be updated, while both the army and air force will get upgraded weapons systems.

                      In addition, the draft will be expanded to 8,000 a year by 2025, up from 4,000 in 2019. Sweden ended conscription in 2010, but reintroduced compulsory military service for a limited number of men and women in 2017.
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                      5 years later, I had thought that things had long-since calmed down between Sweden and Russia. Couldn't have been more wrong
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                      • #41
                        ***looks over shoulder for Gunny and his necro-SWWNBNed picture***
                        “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
                        Mark Twain

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                        • #42
                          Maybe I should go back into quarrantine (aka New Brunswick moose hunt)
                          Last edited by WABs_OOE; 18 Oct 20,, 20:11.

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