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  • Not seeing any nuclear support equipment in there btw.

    Perhaps they can use current support equipment with software/firmware upgrades...just supposition on my part. I do know there have been several US munitions upgrades which only needed the software/firmware upgrade...specifically all the variety of MLRS/GMLRS.
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    • It's likely because any nuclear support equipment for those F-35 would be fielded by a US detachment due to the nature of NATO Nuclear Sharing.

      Plus the F-35 isn't certified for B-61 use yet either way.

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      • Originally posted by kato View Post
        There's apparently planning documents for a wide-scale "internal reorganization" making the rounds in the Army since June.
        Now with tactical symbols and in my opinion a bit too much color:

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        Comes from the internal newspaper "loyal" of the German Reservist Association. They tend to be "fairly informed".

        The slightly weird infantry symbol on some infantry brigades and battalions is apparently for "Wheeled Mechanized Infantry" with a focus on the infantry bit, i.e. the Boxer-based infantry units.

        Main change from what i described earlier is that the 31st Paratrooper Regiment is turned into the 31st "KrDispNatKV" Regiment - "Force Assignment for National Crisis Response". Basically that's the specialized forces within the current paratrooper regiments set aside into their own unit. This is not merged with the KSK special forces. A bit notably KSK is split into "commando" and "support" battalions to break up the current command span overload of the "brigade" command with 16 companies directly under it.

        The brigade all the way too the right is marked as "KorpsTr", i.e. "Corps Troops". That one should probably for proper reading be split in the middle - presumably they do not plan to put an amphibious engineer battalion into a helicopter brigade.

        Interesting tidbit is that 41st Infantry Brigade does not get three "wheeled mechanized infantry" battalions - but two. Their third battalion is formed by the mixed OPFOR battalion at GÜZ at the Schnöggersburg urban combat training site.

        The planning is that 10th Armoured Division hands over 23th Mountain Infantry (there's relatively little other changes) and provisionally becomes the assigned division for NATO New Force Model in 2025. Meanwhile 1st Armoured Division will be rebuilt to the above target structure in parallel to "switch into" NFM by 2027.
        Last edited by kato; 08 Aug 22,, 18:53.

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        • Yeah, it all makes sense. And I understand the Wheeled Infantry symbology. We use a variation for our Stryker units.

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          • Originally posted by kato View Post
            Main change from what i described earlier is that the 31st Paratrooper Regiment is turned into the 31st "KrDispNatKV" Regiment - "Force Assignment for National Crisis Response". Basically that's the specialized forces within the current paratrooper regiments set aside into their own unit. This is not merged with the KSK special forces.
            P.S., since the description is not quite clear:

            The KrDispNatKV are the guys responsible for military evacuation of civilians and military response to hostage situations abroad, as well as for retrieving isolated soldiers in combat theaters and similar tasks. In addition they are used in infantry operations against high-value targets and serve as advance parties for larger airdrops of e.g. the full brigade. Depending on situation they deploy together or in support of a KSK special forces mission, but unlike KSK they'll generally be there "officially" in public.

            While nominally - by planning - there are four socalled EGB ("enhanced basic capability") companies available, the actual composition of it is a single specialized forces company backed up by three regular paratrooper companies (and a heavy company). They were the ones that we e.g. sent to Kabul to secure the evacuations last year.

            Currently these forces are embedded in the two airborne infantry regiments within 1st Airborne Brigade, with the actual composition forming the nucleus of 31st Airborne Regiment.

            The plan seems to be to take all other assets available at the base 31st Airborne is at in Seedorf and combine these assets into two new battalions (paratrooper btl and divisional recce btl) while retaining their basing there. These other assets beyond the "KrDispNatKV" would currently be a paratrooper company, a medical company, a logistics company, an airborne recce company, an airborne engineer company, a basic training company and a reserve company (some of these contribute individual platoons or elements to the KrDispNatKV right now).


            The chart includes (provisional) stationing for most new units. In many cases these are simply where existing units renamed or cut to shape already are. In some cases it's more of an opportunity thing - e.g. the new recce company for 23rd Mountain Infantry Brigade going to Altenstadt; there's a NCO training battalion there which is losing its basic training company due to a realignment of training, so they have space for a single company there.

            Some of the stationing decisions are rather weird though without background. For example Bautzen for two artillery battalions. That would be an entirely new base - Bautzen hosted the officer school of the NVA, the Bundeswehr sold off the real estate in 1994 and never had any troops there. The establishment of this base - "somewhere in the Lausitz region" - was agreed upon last year as a compensation measure for federal steps towards ending lignite mining there. Except that base isn't supposed to be built before 2031. And only for 1000 soldiers. Osterheide - three new battalions - is a former British base adjacent to the Bergen training grounds handed back in 2015, so i guess they only need to completely renovate there. And switch out all electrical systems.

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            • The Luftwaffe for next week is planning a mission similar to France's HEIFARA deployment last year, called RAPID PACIFIC 2022.

              It is planned that this monday a group of 6 Eurofighter, 4 A400M and 3 A330 MRTT will deploy over 12,800 km to Singapore within 24 hours. Unlike the French exercise the aircraft will then be based in the region for around 2 months and deploy to a number of exercises with various partners. First ones back-to-back will be PITCH BLACK and KAKADU in Australia while being based out of Darwin for about a month, but they also plan to hold exercises with the Singaporean Air Force and have aircraft visit both Japan and South Korea later on.

              France apparently couldn't have one put up on them and is concurrently running PEGASE 22. This is basically the same thing, deploying 3 Rafale, 2 A400M and 2 A330 MRTT over 16,600 km to New Caledonia for later participation in PITCH BLACK. Unlike the Luftwaffe deployment above they're giving themselves 72 hours this time though - probably due to not switching out the pilots enroute (like Germany will, in Abu Dhabi) and instead letting them have an overnight rest (in India, the night before last).

              Both Rapic Pacific and Pegase (like Heifara last year) are single-stopover flights otherwise, with around 8-10 inflight refuelings of the group by the accompanying MRTTs.
              Last edited by kato; 12 Aug 22,, 13:40.

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              • Hope the pilots & crews don't mind the heat & humidity. ;)

                Nice to see Germany getting out & playing with its friends.
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                • Originally posted by kato View Post
                  The Bundeswehr is getting new camping gear:
                  Seen a report by an artillery officer whose unit got the new gear two weeks ago and promptly tried it out.

                  He considers the tents "functional and very usable" three-season gear especially for setting up in assembly areas, with a lot of components that can actually be utilized. From his perspective criticism of it mostly stems from a lack of training and experience with that part of a combat deployment among soldiers nowadays. After all due to time concerns during peacetime exercises the "assembly area" part often ends with just having some security patrols set up and only goes for up to half a day and never overnight.

                  His main criticism is that the tents aren't self-bearing and effectively have to be tied down to be stable, which can be a bit complicated especially at night. In particular the large tent definitely needs to be tied down as it's relatively light and wind-susceptible.

                  He also wonders slightly about the set not having plates for the soldies included - so you still have to eat out of the MRE bags and can't also fully utilize the included cooking gear for other food. He consides it great though that he can now order wet wipes through the logistics system.

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                  • New Caledonia is another 6000 odd kms from SG. Long time to be sitting and not shitting.
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                    • They arrived two hours ago. Apparently they did a second stopover in Australia: https://twitter.com/Armee_de_lair/st...92314627854338

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                      • Originally posted by kato View Post
                        They arrived two hours ago. Apparently they did a second stopover in Australia: https://twitter.com/Armee_de_lair/st...92314627854338
                        Those gotta be sone sore asses!!!
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                        • The German aircraft accomplished their mission ("24 hours to Singapore"). They did it in 20 hours 22 minutes.

                          One of the Eurofighters was left behind with a hydraulic failure in Abu Dhabi though. They're flying in a repair crew and spare parts to enable it to rejoin the group in Australia "in time for Pitch Black".

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