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  • #46
    Wondered what that "double pump" term meant and now I understand.

    No Margin Left: Overworked Carrier Force Struggles to Maintain Deployments After Decades of Overuse | USNI | Nov 12 2020

    the Pentagon is using up aircraft carrier readiness faster than the Navy can generate it.

    The pace requires several carriers being asked to do double-pump deployments – two back-to-back deployments overseas without a major maintenance period in between – or curtail maintenance periods.
    I remember a thread here where a US destroyer rammed another ship and it was discovered the crew were over worked. Reading that article you get the impression these USN crews are being run ragged :/

    Am wondering when will India be able to contribute here in a coordinated manner. When will all these exercises we conduct with the USN ostensibly for inter operability over many years going to materialise into something tangible !!

    More hands makes less work
    Last edited by Double Edge; 20 Jan 21,, 18:05.


    • #47
      US commits to joining UK carrier strike group | Defence Connect | Jan 22 2021

      The US has formally committed F-35B Joint Strike Fighters and a guided missile destroyer as part of the UK’s Queen Elizabeth Carrier Strike Group for the ship’s maiden deployment.
      As for double pump, this chinese source had the following to say

      Why does the United States and Britain plan to form a joint aircraft carrier battle group?

      Expert interpretation: The U.S. military has about four months of "carrier-free period" in the Asia-Pacific region each year.

      The U.S. hopes to use British aircraft carriers to supplement its lack of sea power; and the U.K. is also eager to restore the special relationship between Britain and the United States to improve its international status and play a role as a great power
      Last edited by Double Edge; 03 Feb 21,, 22:40.


      • #48
        The carrier's British, the F35s on it belong to the US marines, a demonstration that US & British forces can work hand in glove.

        Why Britain is tilting to the Indo-Pacific region | Guardian | Mar 15 2021

        Tom Sharpe, former naval commander and ex-Ministry of Defence spokesman, speculated on how China would respond when the fleet turned up. “I guarantee they will overfly the group with aircraft – that is a given. They will close and descend and they will test our responses. They will close the group with surface ships and there will be an exchange on various radios which is part of this business of cat and mouse.

        “They will send their submarines out, perhaps there will be one waiting for us east of Suez as a nice surprise.” He warned of the risk of unclear messaging and miscalculation. With China, that can have dire real world implications, as Australia, now in the 10th month of a trade war with Beijing, has discovered.

        Beijing is already bridling at the visit of the UK carrier group visit, especially since France and Germany are also deploying large warships to the region this year, with state media accusing the European powers of “contributing to the US anti-China stratagems”.

        Beijing is also not happy that Johnson wants to turn the G7 into an alliance of 10 democracies by inviting South Korea, India and Australia. China also views as a threat any hint that the UK might join the quad, the growing security alliance between Japan, Australia the US and India, something that may in reality be some years off.


        • #49
          There are also 2 USN DDGs and one UNREP vessel as well.
          “Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
          Mark Twain