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  • Originally posted by DOR View Post

    More like don't care.
    I'm not as emotionally tied to China as you are.
    It's just a job.
    Well, communist China is an enemy state and I've never been emotionally attached to dictators and authoritarian leaders. I don't get paid to write pro-China articles. Just my job to expose PRC for what it is actually - a modern day communist Nazi state.
    Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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    • Originally posted by Oracle View Post

      Well, communist China is an enemy state and I've never been emotionally attached to dictators and authoritarian leaders. I don't get paid to write pro-China articles. Just my job to expose PRC for what it is actually - a modern day communist Nazi state.
      So, you imply that I am paid to write pro-China articles?
      Care to cite any?

      And, by the way, when did some random country declaring (?) China to be an "enemy state" ever stop anyone from examining what that country is, does, or might do? Seems to me such a situation would call for more -- not less -- analysis.
      Trust me?
      I'm an economist!

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      • Originally posted by DOR View Post

        So, you imply that I am paid to write pro-China articles?
        Care to cite any?
        You said that yourself. Btw, you get paid for writing pro-PRC articles? Good for you, might be your reputation for living in HK for years. I get nothing, exposing PRC to be the communist Nazi regime it is.

        And, by the way, when did some random country declaring (?) China to be an "enemy state" ever stop anyone from examining what that country is, does, or might do? Seems to me such a situation would call for more -- not less -- analysis.
        Then, why:
        1. snipe my posts
        2. all 50 centres who sign-up know you
        3. even after being ignored, you still troll me and my posts
        4. you cannot agree with me on democracy Vs authoritarian regimes

        There must be some streak of extreme something in you, that makes you what you are. Extreme-left? Communist? I don't know, I won't make a guess, your posts make it perfectly clear. Time for you to find out who you are, which direction you're headed. Time for some self-introspection.
        Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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        • Originally posted by Oracle View Post

          You said that yourself. Btw, you get paid for writing pro-PRC articles? Good for you, might be your reputation for living in HK for years. I get nothing, exposing PRC to be the communist Nazi regime it is.



          Then, why:
          1. snipe my posts
          2. all 50 centres who sign-up know you
          3. even after being ignored, you still troll me and my posts
          4. you cannot agree with me on democracy Vs authoritarian regimes

          There must be some streak of extreme something in you, that makes you what you are. Extreme-left? Communist? I don't know, I won't make a guess, your posts make it perfectly clear. Time for you to find out who you are, which direction you're headed. Time for some self-introspection.
          WTF ??

          I’ve been paid throughout my adult life to write articles.
          Wall St Journal, New York Times, Far Eastern Economic Review, etc,
          I have never been paid to write an article by any government.
          Stop making up lies about me!
          !
          Trust me?
          I'm an economist!

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          • Originally posted by DOR View Post

            WTF ??

            I’ve been paid throughout my adult life to write articles.
            Wall St Journal, New York Times, Far Eastern Economic Review, etc,
            I have never been paid to write an article by any government.
            Stop making up lies about me!
            !
            You're going nowhere playing the victim card. You're making up lies and you have lied about me and DE earlier too. Not the first time you LIED.

            You yourself said this -
            So, you imply that I am paid to write pro-China articles?
            Oh, and self-introspection.
            Last edited by Oracle; 22 Sep 20,, 12:12.
            Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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            • She's getting around



              Use the close captions to understand better what she is saying

              Palki's playing devils advocate and challenging her which the previous channels she was on did not even try.
              Last edited by Double Edge; 23 Sep 20,, 22:54.

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              • Koreana takes a shot at explaining Dr. Li's report



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                • If she's lying why have the CCP just arrested her mother in China ?



                  Second report's out



                  She was on CNN-News18 earlier, here she is on NDTV

                  Anchor concludes by saying paper isn't peer reviewed and is dismissed by the scientific community (!)

                  She's had a gentler reception on the western channels.
                  Last edited by Double Edge; 10 Oct 20,, 00:03.

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                  • If you lose contact with me, please tell people i won't commit suicide.



                    This interview on London Real goes more in depth to how it all started for her.

                    On the question of non peer review she said the process can take months or even years. This was an urgent situation hence she went with open publishing. Now every one can be the peer review.

                    There is no acceptance of lab origin papers in the established journals. It came from nature. Period.

                    The channel is on youtube but for some reason this particular video dated Sept 25 does not appear in their video list.

                    London Real has their own website and the original source is here, in case this video disappears from youtube.
                    Last edited by Double Edge; 10 Oct 20,, 02:42.

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                    • She's back on Luther's show but those people won't enable CC so the rest of the world can follow



                      Translating the viewer comments is easy enough. In Chrome on a PC, right click (Translate into English)

                      Over a thousand comments and i can't find a single critical or negative one. There was more scepticism in the NDTV viewer comments.

                      Dr. Yan is right: Today's scientific community is very corrupt. Scientists only care about their fames, fundings, papers, networks...
                      Hmm..
                      Last edited by Double Edge; 10 Oct 20,, 21:48.

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                      • Facebook is in hot water these days for more reasons than one



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                        • After blaming US and India, China claims COVID-19 originated in Australia

                          Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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                          • Just 14 countries have an issue with the WHO recent report on the origins of C19

                            Was it so hard for India to join in

                            Can't count on the Indian opposition here because their leader went and signed a frickin secret MOU with China !!!

                            Kiwis got some stick for staying out.

                            Joint Statement on the WHO-Convened COVID-19 Origins Study | DFAT. Au

                            The text of the following statement was released by the Governments of the United States of America, Australia, Canada, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Israel, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, the Republic of Korea, Slovenia, and the United Kingdom.

                            Begin Text:

                            The Governments of Australia, Canada, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Israel, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, the Republic of Korea, Slovenia, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America remain steadfast in our commitment to working with the World Health Organization (WHO), international experts who have a vital mission, and the global community to understand the origins of this pandemic in order to improve our collective global health security and response. Together, we support a transparent and independent analysis and evaluation, free from interference and undue influence, of the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic. In this regard, we join in expressing shared concerns regarding the recent WHO-convened study in China, while at the same time reinforcing the importance of working together toward the development and use of a swift, effective, transparent, science-based, and independent process for international evaluations of such outbreaks of unknown origin in the future.

                            The mission of the WHO is critical to advancing global health and health security, and we fully support its experts and staff and recognize their tireless work to bring an end to the COVID-19 pandemic, including understanding how the pandemic started and spread. With such an important mandate, it is equally essential that we voice our shared concerns that the international expert study on the source of the SARS-CoV-2 virus was significantly delayed and lacked access to complete, original data and samples. Scientific missions like these should be able to do their work under conditions that produce independent and objective recommendations and findings. We share these concerns not only for the benefit of learning all we can about the origins of this pandemic, but also to lay a pathway to a timely, transparent, evidence-based process for the next phase of this study as well as for the next health crises.

                            We note the findings and recommendations, including the need for further studies of animals to find the means of introduction into humans, and urge momentum for expert-driven phase 2 studies. Going forward, there must now be a renewed commitment by WHO and all Member States to access, transparency, and timeliness. In a serious outbreak of an unknown pathogen with pandemic potential, a rapid, independent, expert-led, and unimpeded evaluation of the origins is critical to better prepare our people, our public health institutions, our industries, and our governments to respond successfully to such an outbreak and prevent future pandemics. It is critical for independent experts to have full access to all pertinent human, animal, and environmental data, research, and personnel involved in the early stages of the outbreak relevant to determining how this pandemic emerged. With all data in hand, the international community may independently assess COVID-19 origins, learn valuable lessons from this pandemic, and prevent future devastating consequences from outbreaks of disease.

                            We underscore the need for a robust, comprehensive, and expert-led mechanism for expeditiously investigating outbreaks of unknown origin that is conducted with full and open collaboration among all stakeholders and in accordance with the principles of transparency, respect for privacy, and scientific and research integrity. We will work collaboratively and with the WHO to strengthen capacity, improve global health security, and inspire public confidence and trust in the world’s ability to detect, prepare for, and respond to future outbreaks.

                            End Text.
                            Good one Aussies, you stood up for the world. It only takes one
                            Last edited by Double Edge; 05 May 21,, 02:19.

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