The Korean Dilemma

[Officer of Engineers]

Discuss kidnapped Japanese people being allowed to return or given the option. First a list of those kidnapped as an incentive for the Japanese to pay war reparations to North Korea, like Japan did to the south.

Japan was not a belligerant in the Korean War. She has no say in any peace treaty.

[Gun Grape]

I think Kims plan is to dangle enough/give enough concessions to South Korea and Japan that they keep Trump from launching a preemptive strike.

Or at least keep Trump from launching a strike from either SK or Japanese soil.

The peace talks will take years to hash out. China will have to be a part of them. Discuss kidnapped Japanese people being allowed to return or given the option. First a list of those kidnapped as an incentive for the Japanese to pay war reparations to North Korea, like Japan did to the south.

[Officer of Engineers]

Deng's no saint but like I said. People just disappearred. Deng didn't need show trials. But one thing I will say for Deng. He loved China more than he loved his legacy.

I don't get that impression from the Kims.

[TopHatter]

The Kims modelled themselves after Stalin.

Which is exactly why they should be treated like a live hand grenade with the pin pulled and no spoon.

[Officer of Engineers]

Why the delay from NK ?

The Kims modelled themselves after Stalin. They didn't model themselves after Deng.

[Double Edge]

Xi wants stability in North Korea so there is growth.

Encouraging growth in NK so as to prevent a refugee problem is a sound idea and one the Chinese have been pushing for over ten years

Why the delay from NK ?

Is the NK leadership afraid that growth will lead to social and political instability, if anything it should cement the leaderships hold like it has to a certain extent the CCP

Or is it the determined nature to pursue nukes until success meant sanctions that precluded any chance of growth.

[Officer of Engineers]

Are you saying that whatever KJU is doing now is done at the behest of Xi?

I'm saying that KJU has gone begging to Xi and Xi has laid down his terms. Xi wants stability in North Korea so there is growth. Getting rid of KJU would not increase stability at the moment.

Wait a minute.
I'm confused.

Xi Jinping is going to take the nukes away from Fat Boy, but let Little Rocket Man keep his?

Compared to Trump, Xi is the Little Rocket Man. The IAEA states the PRC has enough fissile material for ~400 nukes. Trump has at his command over 8000. Xi is ridiculusly small when compared to the American nuclear arsenal.

[DOR]

Wait a minute.
I'm confused.

Xi Jinping is going to take the nukes away from Fat Boy, but let Little Rocket Man keep his?

[hboGYT]

You said Xi would be advising KJU. Xi, more than anything else, wants to turn North Korea into a production factory so that the threat of refugees would be gone once and for all and for that, he needs stability and that means no nukes.

In order for KJU to not fear of a South Korean invasion, the Chinese would have to guarrantee North Korean Independence and the only way to do that is to put Chinese troops into North Korea to calm KJU's nerves without nukes.

KJU went to Beijing with hat-in-hand and was obedient. KJU was told that he would have to go begging to Seoul and to Trump. Trump will demand the denuclearization promised by Fat Boy and he will demand the job done before payment. Now, who could satisfy both? Xi. With Chinese troops in North Korea.

Something that I seriously doubt will happen since Fat Boy is not serious.

Are you saying that whatever KJU is doing now is done at the behest of Xi?

[TopHatter]

Something that I seriously doubt will happen since Fat Boy is not serious.

100 percent in agreement with you.

[Officer of Engineers]

That's....none of what I said. :-(

You said Xi would be advising KJU. Xi, more than anything else, wants to turn North Korea into a production factory so that the threat of refugees would be gone once and for all and for that, he needs stability and that means no nukes.

In order for KJU to not fear of a South Korean invasion, the Chinese would have to guarrantee North Korean Independence and the only way to do that is to put Chinese troops into North Korea to calm KJU's nerves without nukes.

KJU went to Beijing with hat-in-hand and was obedient. KJU was told that he would have to go begging to Seoul and to Trump. Trump will demand the denuclearization promised by Fat Boy and he will demand the job done before payment. Now, who could satisfy both? Xi. With Chinese troops in North Korea.

Something that I seriously doubt will happen since Fat Boy is not serious.

[TopHatter]

If that is the case, I will break open the champagne bottles. Xi would lock up the NK nukes and yank the nuclear trigger away from Fat Boy. Somehow, I doubt Fat Boy would let in even a token of Chinese troops as a show of "solidarity." KJU kowtowed. He did not let in a Chinese Governor.

So again, we're back to the Fat Boy and Trump.

That's....none of what I said. :-(

[Ironduke]

So again, we're back to the Fat Boy and Trump.

Gosh darnit. You just made me think of something I want to say, but I don't want to say it.

It's something that begins with an M, squared.

[Officer of Engineers]

That's just the problem: KJU has Xi advising him in how to deal with Trump. Between the two, I pick Xi.

If that is the case, I will break open the champagne bottles. Xi would lock up the NK nukes and yank the nuclear trigger away from Fat Boy. Somehow, I doubt Fat Boy would let in even a token of Chinese troops as a show of "solidarity." KJU kowtowed. He did not let in a Chinese Governor.

So again, we're back to the Fat Boy and Trump.

[TopHatter]

I don't know how bad of a deal that was but I will leave that up to you if it's a good deal or not.

Trump himself thought it was a horrible deal but he signed it anyway.

However, one does not make $billions and have own Miss America and 2 TV shows by being conned.

Trump started out from an extremely wealthy family and then failed his upwards, usually by doing a shitload of conning himself. It's easy to make money when you cheat your vendors out of payment, for example. It's estimated that had he simply invested his money decades ago and sat back and did nothing, he'd be worth far more than he is today.

Trump's success is more of a product of self-promoting showmanship and outrageous lies.

A really successful billionaire is someone like Warren Buffet. Trump is no Warren Buffet.

In any case, this is all academic anyway: Trump is now in the business of government and geopolitics. Two things that, as I said, he knows little of and has no desire to learn about.

He's in good company. KJU has delusions of grandeur and until recently believed his own press until he was forced to kowtow to Xi. Between the two, I pick Trump. At least he dealt with real sharks with mafia and union bosses.

That's just the problem: KJU has Xi advising him in how to deal with Trump. Between the two, I pick Xi.

As for dealing with mafia and union bosses, your choice is simple: Pay them now or pay them later. Not a lot of "dealing" going on there.

I find that to be self serving. Trump did graduate while I'm sure the prof had students who did not.

I find that assessment of Trump to be typical of people that have been able to examine him up close.

One thing's for damn certain, he can't even keep his own mouth shut, even as he's incriminating the living hell out of himself and his people.

I call that really really stupid.