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  • Originally posted by Firestorm View Post
    Dumb politicians and their dumber ideas. So apparently they want the USAF to train Indian pilots on how to fly their Russian and French aircraft.

    Japanese and Australian pilots already got training for their instructors when they bought their F-15's and F-18's.
    working out a way to interoperate with the USAF ; )

    Only way to counter a Chinese threat.

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    • Originally posted by Oracle View Post
      You know what sucks for me? Original Chinese food. I had duck chowmein once in Greenwich, and it had little to no salt, bad smelling sauces (oyster etc), and the duck started pecking my stomach from inside.

      However, I respect people who eat that, it's their ethnic food, and they grew up eating those. For me, after Biryani and Mughlai meat dishes, Indian-Chinese is to die for. The Shezwan kind. Then there's always Pizza, BBQ and so many good foods. I can write a 5000 page book about good food.
      This is how we are countering China

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      My introduction to Chinese food in the west was take outs from Chinese immigrants. Mostly Cantonese.

      I learnt that chop suey was American as in some immigrant dreamed it up and it did not come from China.

      This Indian Chinese thing is a bit iffy for me.

      If a NE guy is cooking it, just call it NE food.

      I do love a good chow mein though : )
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      • Ahmedabad: Neighbours become protective in-laws for this Chinese hubby

        Feed him 1 kilo of Dhokla every 2 hours. Best revenge against the communist party.
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        • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
          Yeah, that explains why a third of your population have high blood pressure. My doc put me on a low sodium diet and a cardio program, aka poison and torture.
          Can't give up eating red meat. I can however exercise, and keep my weight in control.

          Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
          Check out something called the 7 minute workout. It's a High Intensity Interval Training requiring just a chair. It will get you started without weights. I had to modify it since my knees are gone and can't do impacts anymore,

          I've since moved onto https://darebee.com/ for variety. Getting bored with your workouts is one way to kill your gains.
          Darebee looks good. If I combine some freehand + darebee (variety) + 7 minute IW + some light weights, I think I can reduce my body-weight in 3 months. Exercising daily needs a lot of grit and determination. Then there is diet to be maintained. Thanks Colonel, let's see.

          DE, you also need to get rid of your belly fat and man boobs dude. :D
          Last edited by Oracle; 01 Jul 20,, 02:44.
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          • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
            This is how we are countering China

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            Is that Intellectual property theft ?
            If that is IP theft, Pakistan/Bangladesh/Nepal owe us some billions of dollars in reparations for using Indian names for restaurants abroad.

            My introduction to Chinese food in the west was take outs from Chinese immigrants. Mostly Cantonese.

            I learnt that chop suey was American as in some immigrant dreamed it up and it did not come from China.

            This Indian Chinese thing is a bit iffy for me.

            If a NE guy is cooking it, just call it NE food.

            I do love a good chow mein though : )
            My introduction was my termination of eating authentic Chinese food. Plus the guy gave chopsticks. I will tell you some difference between NE food and authentic Chinese food. We cook food with turmeric, ginger, garlic, chillies, salt etc.....but don't add oyster sauce, fish sauce etc in our food. That is, the tribal style. Sometimes we add soya sauce though. Add a lot of vegetables (seasonal, locally available, not found outside NE) to our meat.

            Btw, where did the tribals of NE comes from? Chinese food sells, so they name it Chinese food. The biggest chain of Chinese restaurants in India is owned by a Bong called Anjan Chatterjee.

            I have a packet of chowmein, should have kept some breast pieces to prepare Chicken chowmein. Well, another day.
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              • Originally posted by Oracle View Post
                Exercising daily needs a lot of grit and determination.
                Nahh, it just NEEDS to be fun. I'm serious. To keep at it, it has to be fun. If it isn't you will find too many excuses not to do it. I only stop running when my knees gave out but I enjoyed the runner's high a hell of a lot. I most likely added damage when I didn't stop running earlier in life. Didn't listen to the body et al.
                Chimo

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                • Originally posted by Mithridates View Post
                  Not semantics at all. I'm very sympathetic to Uighur goals. But sterilization is a fairly standard Chinese government policy with regard to women who exceed the government's mandatory limit on childbirth. I disagree with those policies, but they are policies for everyone in the country.
                  Ya, that's one way to say everyone's fu99ed.

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                  • China blocks Indian newspapers, websites
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                    • Will India re-think it's fighter jet purchases now? Already, 114 fighter jets, which India sought to buy after a competitive bidding has been cancelled.
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                      • Originally posted by Oracle View Post
                        I said it earlier somewhere, I'll say it again here now. China is the Nazi Germany of the 21st century. Just wait and watch for some more years.
                        Here's what the Aussie PM said yesterday. Are you writing his speeches ?

                        This simple truth is this: even as we stare down the COVID pandemic at home, we need to also prepare for a post-COVID world that is poorer, that is more dangerous, and that is more disorderly.

                        We have been a favoured isle, with many natural advantages for many decades, but we have not seen the conflation of global, economic and strategic uncertainty now being experienced here in Australia in our region since the existential threat we faced when the global and regional order collapsed in the 1930s and 1940s.

                        That is a sobering thought, and it's something I have reflected on quite a lot lately, as we've considered the dire economic circumstances we face.

                        That period of the 1930s has been something I have been revisiting on a very regular basis, and when you connect both the economic challenges and the global uncertainty, it can be very haunting.

                        But not overwhelming.

                        It requires a response.
                        The Indo-Pacific is the epicentre of rising strategic competition.

                        Our region will not only shape our future, increasingly though, it is the focus of the dominant global contest of our age.

                        This is the setting for it.

                        Tensions over territorial claims are rising across the Indo-Pacific region, as we have seen recently on the disputed border between India and China, and the South China Sea, and the East China Sea.

                        The risk of miscalculation and even conflict is heightening.

                        Regional military modernisation is occurring at an unprecedented rate.

                        Capabilities and reach are expanding.

                        Previous assumptions of enduring advantage and technological edge are no longer constants and cannot be relied upon.

                        Coercive activities are rife.

                        Disinformation and foreign interference have been enabled and accelerated by new and emerging technologies.

                        And, of course, terrorism hasn't gone away and the evil ideologies that underpin it and they remain a tenacious threat.

                        State sovereignty is under pressure, as are rules and norms and the stability that these provide.
                        Relations between China and the United States are fractious at best, as they compete for political, economic and technological supremacy.

                        But it's important to acknowledge that they are not the only actors of consequence.

                        The rest of the world, and Australia, are not just bystanders to this.

                        It's not just China and the United States that will determine whether our region stays on path for free and open trade, investment and cooperation that has underpinned stability and prosperity, the people-to-people relationships that bind our region together.

                        Japan, India, the Republic of Korea, the countries of South-East Asia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam and the Pacific all have agency, choices to make, parts to play and of course, so does Australia.
                        Now, Australia has a highly effective, deployable and integrated military force of which we are so proud.

                        But maintaining what is a highly capable, but largely defensive force will not equip us to deter attacks against Australia, or our sovereign interests in the challenging strategic environment we face.

                        The ADF now needs stronger deterrence capabilities, capabilities that can hold potential adversaries, their forces, and critical infrastructure at risk from a distance, thereby deterring an attack on Australia and helping to prevent war.

                        Of course, we can't match all the capabilities in our region. That's not the point of what we're announcing today.

                        That is why we need to ensure our deterrence capabilities play to our strengths.

                        Australia will invest in longer-range strike weapons, cyber capabilities and area denial.

                        As mentioned, we are expanding our plans to acquire long range maritime and land strike capabilities and to invest in more highly integrated sensors and weapons.

                        We will increase the Australian Defence Force's ability to influence and deny operations directed against our interests.
                        When Indians hear about Aussie deterrence they think of Glenn McGrath, Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Brett Lee & Pat Cummins. What is stronger than that ??

                        I wish he was complaining about India but its sounds like he is talking about something else !!

                        Aussies commit to increasing their defense budget by 40% for the next ten years

                        Address - Launch of the 2020 Defence Strategic Update | PM of Australia | Jul 01 2020

                        When will we increase ours ? We used to spend much more as a % of GDP

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                        • Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                          Here's what the Aussie PM said yesterday. Are you writing his speeches ?
                          Would have made some money if I did. Scott stole it from here. :D

                          Originally posted by Double Edge View Post
                          When Indians hear about Aussie deterrence they think of Glenn McGrath, Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thomson, Brett Lee & Pat Cummins. What is stronger than that ??
                          Hahahaha!

                          When will we increase ours ? We used to spend much more as a % of GDP
                          When WWIII starts and China occupies India.
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                          • US secretary of state Pompeo welcomes India's decision to ban Chinese apps
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                            • Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                              They will articulate what they want the day they take what they want!
                              Originally posted by WABs_OOE View Post
                              Knowing what they want means you'd be ready to deny it once they're ready to take it.
                              Am starting to think what they want only works if we bite.

                              Time to whack them was back in May, the window has closed now.

                              They tried again on Jun 15 and even that didn't get the expected reaction.

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                              • TikTok may mount a legal challenge against ban

                                Being an authoritarian regime has its perks. Deceive countries into believing that internal change is imminent. On the sly hack, steal, beg, borrow whatever can be hacked, stolen, begged, borrowed. Use freedom of laws, as proscribed in the constitutional system of democratic countries to fight back against policies that is discriminatory, while at the same time block foreign companies in their home regimes (FB, Twitter, Google just to name a few).

                                Curbs on companies from countries illegally holding Indian land

                                If this goes through and becomes a law, a celebration is on the cards.
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