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  • I think you were trying to say that "Even Lahore was ruled by Sikhs before 1947"... right? Well no. Lahore had a Muslim majority population. As did, most of Punjab.
    Really?

    Who ruled from Lahore? Afghans?

    There is a difference between rulers and the subjects!


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

    HAKUNA MATATA

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    • Originally posted by Ray
      Neo,

      Read the book by the ISI Brigadier who was the Deputy and who organised the Afghan Insurrection.

      The Book is called "The Bear Trap" and it is published by Jung Publishers of Lahore.

      Worth a read and though he reveals most, it may make you feel good as a Pakistani origin person.
      I've just ordered the book LT recommended, but I'd like to read this one aswell.


      Hey I don't even knowhether you are a Pakistani or a Dutch?
      I've a Dutch passport, but apart from that I'm 100% Pakistani :)

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      • [QUOTE=Asim Aquil]
        Over 150,000 troops are engaged on that border, A lot more should be at the LoC/IB on the east.
        I don't know if the figure of 150,000 is correct. But for the NWFP/Waziristan border you would need about 36,000-45,000 infantry troops just to "seal" the border. Then atleast another 3 infantry divisions (about 36,000 men depending on the orbat) or more (depending on the critial sectors) to carry out internal operations. So the 150,000 figure looks quite sufficient for that region. But then the other sectors (Balochi-Afghan border) too need troops.
        I think its high time, the US participated in sealing off the border as well. We've seen countless commentaries on how hard it is to seal off this border. A few thousand American troops won't be enough.
        It will not be possible for the US to committ the numbers required to seal the border, these troops have to come from Pakistan.
        Why is GoP not building a fence there??
        Neo,
        It is easier said than done. The terrain difficulties make it very difficult for building fences, ask us we have done it on the Indo-Pak LOC. Besides every winter the snow is going to wash away protions of the fence, and before that the sown fall covers the fence so in April and early May (when the snow gets hard) one can walk over the fence :).
        With out the fence having troops to monitor it, the exercise will be futile.

        Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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        • How to attend cousin Hekhmatyar's marriage?

          lemontree, assuming all the needed troops are commited to the border, won't Pak Pushtuns("civilians" :) ) rebel againist its being sealed?

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          • Originally posted by gilgamesh
            lemontree, assuming all the needed troops are commited to the border, won't Pak Pushtuns("civilians" :) ) rebel againist its being sealed?
            None of the Pakhtun's neither Pakistani nor Afghan really recognize the Durrand Line. Hence all the trouble in the first place. Imho Pak lost the script a little, they should've got the Taliban to recognize the Durrand Line, that was their best chance!
            I rant, therefore I am.

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            • It is humorous to find people, especially politicians, talking of 'sealing the border".

              No border can be sealed!

              Sealing would imply placing a man every yard or so and also having a minimum of 4 backup men to be "sharp" 24 hours of the day!

              Now, add to it the foliage and dips in the ground, which obscure view. Go place another man there and 4 backups!

              It is even worse in craggy mountains and high altitude!

              "Sealing" is only relative!


              "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

              I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

              HAKUNA MATATA

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              • I've a Dutch passport, but apart from that I'm 100% Pakistani
                I am confused. Double dutch to me! :)

                Dutch passport mean you are a Dutch citizen. Does it mean that you are a Dutch with deep affection for the country of your origin?


                "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                HAKUNA MATATA

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                • Abass,

                  I have a clarification to request.

                  What is the affinity between the Afghans of Afghanistan with the Afghans in the NWFP.

                  How deep the the bond?

                  Is the bond that deep that they actually believe in wanting Pakhtoonistan?

                  If so, then what do you think has to be done to have a state called Pakhtoonistan?


                  "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                  I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                  HAKUNA MATATA

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                  • Originally posted by Ray
                    It is humorous to find people, especially politicians, talking of 'sealing the border".

                    No border can be sealed!

                    Sealing would imply placing a man every yard or so and also having a minimum of 4 backup men to be "sharp" 24 hours of the day!

                    Now, add to it the foliage and dips in the ground, which obscure view. Go place another man there and 4 backups!

                    It is even worse in craggy mountains and high altitude!

                    "Sealing" is only relative!
                    But India sealed the Kashmir border didn't they?

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                    • Originally posted by Ray
                      I am confused. Double dutch to me! :)

                      Dutch passport mean you are a Dutch citizen. Does it mean that you are a Dutch with deep affection for the country of your origin?
                      True!
                      I feel Dutch and Pakistani at the same time, except for when Holland is playing Pakistan in some hockey event. Then I become a very loud yelling Pakistani
                      Its actually a funny thing that I speak Urdu with a european accent. When visiting Pakistan, I'm not allowed to go shopping alone. They all try to thug me with higher prices : (

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                      • Neo,

                        Sealing the border is relative!

                        It means reduction of the torrent to a great degree of sponsored terrorists of different Islamic countries, guided at times by Kashmiris who had gone across!
                        Last edited by Ray; 10 Sep 05,, 18:46.


                        "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                        I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                        HAKUNA MATATA

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                        • I never actually believed in fences...though in israel's case it worked!

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                          • I think Israelis built a very high wall!


                            "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

                            I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

                            HAKUNA MATATA

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                            • Yeah, is was actually a combi of wall and fence..a controvercial project at the time that even the US opposed!

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                              • baluchs are more close to pashtuns than iranians or pakistanis(punjabis, sindhis).. baluchs are also sunni and iranians are shia so there is no way baluchistan will ever exist in iran..

                                Originally posted by lemontree View Post
                                You are right there. Balochistan is more of an Iran-Pakistan thing than Afghani.
                                http://governmentofbalochistan.blogspot.com/

                                Balochistan comprises of areas in Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan. But, Iran and Pakistan forcibly occupied Balochistan and oppressed the Baloch people. The “Baloch War of Independence” has begun, and our freedom fighters are engaged in guerrilla warfare to liberate Balochistan. On April 18, 2006, we declared the Government of Balochistan in Exile, nominated His Highness Mir Suleman Dawood Khan as our King, chose the red, green, blue with sun as our flag, and reinstated Kalat as our capital.

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